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Nitty Gritty

BFP wrote this post about a conversation between herself and Jay Sennett, in which she drew some connections between being a poor woman of color on welfare, and being a transperson:

So the two of us started comparing notes and really getting into the nitty gritty of what it is like to survive and negotiate the welfare and health care industrial complexes as a poor woman of color and a white trans man.

Jay talked about how much power those who are workers for the health care industrial complex have over patients. About how a trans person can be in a bed waiting to head into surgery, and everybody from nurses to doctors get their panties in a bunch–because why does this man need a hysterectomy? About how he has had to have female friends call and set up appointments with OBGYN’s because if he calls the receptionists think that he is pranking them. (Because even those who work in an OBGYN office haven’t figured out that trans people exist and need health care too). About how trans people are forced to constantly read situations and expectations–what does this little white lady expect me to be? What will the group of coworkers who pray together at lunch time tolerate? Who does the pizza delivery guy expect will answer the door? Will the nurse who is prepping me for surgery freak out?

At the same time, as a woman of color, I have had to deal with punk just out of college social workers and family memebers who don’t *get* why it isn’t ok to wait three months to get a starving family their food stamp rations. Why it is insane that every single social agency that works to “help” the poor wants copies copies and more copies of bills, rent contracts, pay stubs, income taxes, etc. How I had to walk over eight miles in one day (from one agency to the next) just to finally be told that the agency I started at couldn’t help me because the final agency I was supposed to go to was too far to walk and not on any bus route.

Medical care for transpeople is hugely dependent on class; the extent to which any given transperson is vulnerable is a matter of the amount of money they can spend. Sorting out issues of prejudice and danger means attempting to untie that knot. (Of course, the fact that transpeople must make this huge cash outlay is pretty good proof of prejudice in general.) The complication goes both ways, of course–a transwoman is more vulnerable to poverty if she cannot sleep in a homeless shelter.

I touched on class briefly in the post that listed all the reasons my surgery would not be difficult. Here are some examples of how class has made things easier:

I am more likely to have a job that offers health benefits. Instead of explaining my medical history to a random, unconnected assortment of medical professionals professionally obligated to provide me with the bare minimum of care, I get to select and stay with one primary care physician and a small set of colleagues of hers. Even if my carrier will not pay for surgery–and virtually none do–they are a resource I can use in related ways. For example, if I travel to Maryland to obtain chest surgery and subsequently develop a hematoma the size of my fist, I can take it to my doctor. Major complications from out-of-pocket surgery probably won’t result in tens of thousands of dollars of unmitigated debt. I am also more likely to be saved from a number of small costs associated with transition–for example, my doctor probably won’t charge me for the letter I’ll use to change my legal gender, or for the letter I might use to obtain surgery.

Of course, my financial status also means that I am more likely to be in good health in general, which means that I am less likely to face nightmarish emergency-room disclosures.

I am also more likely to have both the professional/educational credentials and the financial resources needed to relocate. This means that I can move to a big friendly city, instead of staying in an arid or hostile place. My options for transition–informed-consent clinics, nearby surgeons, sliding-scale therapy, relatively friendly and educated care providers–are directly affected by my location.

I am also more likely to have access to networking resources (my HMO qualifies). The internets, for example, have saved me hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

I can afford surgery. This is huge. For some of us, it can mean the difference between passing and not passing. For others, it can mean a body that can pass as non-transsexual. It can make us employable. It can give us the right to identification that we can produce. It can resolve health problems or relieve some of the need for healthcare. The transman described above, the one whose hysterectomy was a bureaucratic impossibility, has more options than a transman or a woman who simply cannot pay for any surgical procedure.

That having been said, there is prejudice against transpeople that permeates all levels of healthcare. That HMO won’t necessarily manage your care in any friendly way. An HMO will almost certainly discriminate against you in terms of transition-related surgeries, and may well discriminate against you in other ways. There’s no reason to believe that any given ftm will feel safe disclosing to his doctor–and many in fact don’t tell their doctors that they’re transsexual, because that gets them better care.

But so much of trans vulnerability is vulnerability to exposure. In other words, our chances of getting hurt are dependent on the number of strangers who have control over and access to our private lives. I would be far more vulnerable as a transperson if I were living on the street, or in transitional housing, or in a shelter, or in a prison. The privacy we gain through wealth is the privacy of the closet, but it provides protection all the same.


31 thoughts on Nitty Gritty

  1. i think i now know what really, really disturbed me about some other discussions (like the womensspace threads on camp trans), is that because those who can make it have some class advantages, trans is suddenly a bourgie thing of priviledge.

    No, the people who can’t even dream of transition because they lack the resources, or who are subject to too much because of their poverty are invisable…and others are foricbly regendered into their natal gender, or just outright killed. Trans idenity, as you show here, isn’t intrinsically classed. It has class implications i the way anti-trans oppression is structured.

    Observation without reflection on the why is just another hammer to hit the marginalized.

  2. Lot of stuff like that. For example I *never* had insurance to cover my hearing aids, at all until this job (at a state level university — so so on salary, great bennies). At $1500 a pop, these things are not cheap — and they require maintenance, cleaning, batteries, upkeep, and so on. I never understood why glasses were covered and not hearing aids. And if I had a different financial situation, I’d be up a creek, because without hearing aids, I’m also much less employable and around and round the vicious circle goes…

  3. anon, i wear glasses, and recently, i broke them–and of course I am/was too damn poor to even think of fixing them–that was the first time i actually realized that i am disabled–that i have a correctable disability, but it is a disability anyway. I can’t see without my glasses, I was literally being walked around by my partner…i couldn’t function outside of my house at all, and i got such raging headaches i couldn’t even function within my house on many levels…and i don’t have insurance either so I pretty much had to deal with it until fellow bloggers helped me out. So I know and understand exactly where you are coming from. just because a disability is “correctable” that doesn’t necessarily mean that a person actually *has* the ability to correct!!

  4. anon, i wear glasses, and recently, i broke them–and of course I am/was too damn poor to even think of fixing them–that was the first time i actually realized that i am disabled–that i have a correctable disability, but it is a disability anyway. I can’t see without my glasses, I was literally being walked around by my partner…i couldn’t function outside of my house at all, and i got such raging headaches i couldn’t even function within my house on many levels…and i don’t have insurance either so I pretty much had to deal with it until fellow bloggers helped me out. So I know and understand exactly where you are coming from. just because a disability is “correctable” that doesn’t necessarily mean that a person actually *has* the ability to correct!!

    Yup, and a lot of preventable care is class-dependent, too: early-intervention programs, occupational therapy, RSI care, congenital heart murmurs.

  5. That is one really strong point of comparison: trans status and poverty both prevent people from having real relationships with their care providers, which is a huge part of getting reliable, comprehensive care.

  6. Damn but that’s well put.

    It’s pretty incredible for a nonTrans like myself to grasp … being who you actually are is incredibly difficult under even the best of circumstances.

    When being who you actually are involves significant physical changes — well, the ante goes way up, doesn’t it just.

    And when people can kill you by omission, or silence, or malign compliance it seems clear to me that simple survival is pretty heroic.

    It seems to me that need to do what we have to do to reach our really important goals. I can see how, for a transPerson that can involve a great deal of silence and even duplicity.

    Even a slightly nuanced view of honesty will offer “No” as an answer to “Please hand me a weapon so I can use it on you”.

  7. OT, and sorry for my ignorance, but I’ve always been a bit confused – is a trans man a former woman now as a man, or the other way ’round?

  8. OT, and sorry for my ignorance, but I’ve always been a bit confused – is a trans man a former woman now as a man, or the other way ’round?

    The first one. These terms refer to the post-transition gender or gender identity, not to the gender assigned at birth.

    So, a transman or transguy is someone who transitioned to male, and a transwoman is someone who transitioned to female.

  9. OT, and sorry for my ignorance, but I’ve always been a bit confused – is a trans man a former woman now as a man, or the other way ’round?

    i’m not sure that really makes a difference within the framework of this post–trans people period are violated and silenced by health care/welfare institutions because people can’t “figure out” what they are. I think the point should not be so much “figuring out” what trans people are, but rather instead, confronting how the need to “figure out” can lead to abuse and silencing, you know?

  10. i’m not sure that really makes a difference within the framework of this post–trans people period are violated and silenced by health care/welfare institutions because people can’t “figure out” what they are. I think the point should not be so much “figuring out” what trans people are, but rather instead, confronting how the need to “figure out” can lead to abuse and silencing, you know?

    I don’t object to questions about terminology, especially when that terminology is not widely known. Transman is a googlewhack, so it’s a fair question. This is the kind of information a health-care provider would need to know–although hopefully not something they’d have to learn from their patients–in order to provide respectful care.

  11. “There’s no reason to believe that any given ftm will feel safe disclosing to his doctor–and many in fact don’t tell their doctors that they’re transsexual, because that gets them better care. ”

    This probably results in a number of mind-numbingly bad scenarios where a transperson just wants some damned antibiotics or some dry ice for the plantar’s warts but has to explain fucking everything to some stranger every single time.

    A students of mine actually died because she didn’t have health insurance and therefore no personal doctor. The small clinics she was able to afford put her pain down to muscle strain. Nope. Congenital but reparable heart defect. She was 24.

  12. This probably results in a number of mind-numbingly bad scenarios where a transperson just wants some damned antibiotics or some dry ice for the plantar’s warts but has to explain fucking everything to some stranger every single time.

    …Pretty much. In some cases–e.g. gynecological health–the tradeoff is huge. In terms of minor urgent care, it’s most convenient. Of course, we shouldn’t have to present incomplete pictures to our doctors.

    A students of mine actually died because she didn’t have health insurance and therefore no personal doctor. The small clinics she was able to afford put her pain down to muscle strain. Nope. Congenital but reparable heart defect. She was 24.

    Exactly. Not to mention all the “little things” that never see care.

  13. Exactly. Not to mention all the “little things” that never see care.

    One of the many heartbreaking things about this situation is that the young woman worked at a shit job for, I think, 36 hours a week – just two hours too few to get health insurance. Of course, this was a deliberae decision on her employer’s part. Ah, hell. I feel all my energy seeping away just thinking about it.

  14. I didn’t mean to imply that “figuring it out” was germane to the health care issue, just a personal confusion on my part. Apart from the insurance and money issues, I think the level of annoyance and heartache associated with the post issues goes along with a lot of unnecessary intrusiveness in health care. I understand that sometimes problems manifest themselves in different ways, and that keeping track of everything can be a good thing, but still. As an example (admittedly much less troublesome than the ones in the original post, and I don’t want to derail it to this arena), I started seeing an allergist recently, and the first thing they did was weigh me. I don’t need the whole “you need to lose weight for your health” spiel, and as an obese person it’s an emotional grind to go through it all, so why the hell do they feel the need to do it? I’m there for allergy medication, which for the most part comes in one size fits all pills. They have no need to know my weight (and the kicker is that it was already on the chart from a gp visit the week before in the same practice). Again, not quite the same, but I noticed a little parallel in the “why does he need this surgery” and other assumptions about what people do and don’t get for health care.

  15. I think that came out completely unintelligible. What I was trying to do was to say that issues like “This probably results in a number of mind-numbingly bad scenarios where a transperson just wants some damned antibiotics or some dry ice for the plantar’s warts but has to explain fucking everything to some stranger every single time.” and “I want some allergy pills so let’s not discuss my weight” are both symptomatic of health care providers not trusting that people know what they’re coming in for and instead want their entire life histories just in case.

  16. They have no need to know my weight (and the kicker is that it was already on the chart from a gp visit the week before in the same practice).

    I’m just SWAGing here, but were they doing testing? In that case, they might want it in case they had to administer epi (emergency doses are pretty standard, but after t hat …) or had to do other serious treatment.

  17. One of the many heartbreaking things about this situation is that the young woman worked at a shit job for, I think, 36 hours a week – just two hours too few to get health insurance. Of course, this was a deliberae decision on her employer’s part. Ah, hell. I feel all my energy seeping away just thinking about it.

    Yeah, I know a lot of people in the 34-36 hour range.

    I’m so sorry.

  18. I am reminded of the lack of care provided to non-insured trans folks in my area. When a pal contracted the severe flu, he was told at the local cheap clinic (15/visit flat fee), “oh, you’re transsexual? we can’t treat you. You’ll have to go to the gender clinic.”

    Now, mind you, transsexuality is treated, medically, as an endocrine disorder like diabetes. But, somehow, transsexuality nullified the doctor’s ability to treat non-endroncrine-related illness. And diabetes is far more difficult to manage on a clinical basis than transsexuality, but I can’t imagine a staff doctor at a clinical telling a diabetic, “oh, I’m sorry, you’ll need to go the dialysis center for care…”

    This is why I and other trans activists say there is no such thing as medical care for transsexuals it is transsexual care.

  19. One of the many heartbreaking things about this situation is that the young woman worked at a shit job for, I think, 36 hours a week – just two hours too few to get health insurance. Of course, this was a deliberae decision on her employer’s part. Ah, hell. I feel all my energy seeping away just thinking about it.

    That’s really, really common. When I was in high school, I worked at a local grocery store. It wasn’t a chain, but it was decent sized and pretty much the only one that wasn’t a carryout in 20 miles, so they did good business and the owners made very good money. Except for the two shift managers, the ‘full time’ people who worked there, mostly single mothers in a rural area where the only good jobs are in the coal mines–husbands had either died or left and their kids (my age or younger) had lots of health problems among them, were never allowed to work more than 37 hours a week, just so he didn’t have to pay for benefits for them. And he’d just hire a few part time people to make up the difference. It got so bad that once when one of the other part time girls quit, I got all her hours (bringing me up to 35 hours/week as a high school student) because he didn’t want to bump one of the other women up to full time benefit status. I was happy for the work, as my dad was out of a job at the time and my extra money took some of the grocery buying strain off the family, but the entire thing was shameful.

  20. What I was trying to do was to say that issues like “This probably results in a number of mind-numbingly bad scenarios where a transperson just wants some damned antibiotics or some dry ice for the plantar’s warts but has to explain fucking everything to some stranger every single time.” and “I want some allergy pills so let’s not discuss my weight” are both symptomatic of health care providers not trusting that people know what they’re coming in for and instead want their entire life histories just in case.

    Speaking of this kind of thing… yes, yes, yes. There are plenty of medical needs that a trans person might want some care for that aren’t related in any way to their trans status. And yet because of the need to get entire patient histories (sometimes a reasonable need)trans people often have to disclose.

    For instance, your teeth are not usually considered a particularly gendered part of your body. But at the dentist, they want to know what medications you’re on, in case something happens or there’s a bad interaction, etc. If you list that you’re on say, testosterone, a dentist or assistant might ask you why. If you tell them you’re trans, then almost universally they’re going to start pondering rather private things about your body that you might not really want to have scrutinized, plus there’s always a risk that you’ll run into someone who will have issues with trans people or will say “oh sorry we can’t help you here” for no reason at all. It’s been known to happen.

    It’s not much of a wonder that many trans people don’t disclose, or if they do because of worries about drug interactions, they just tell the dentist or whoever that they’re a guy with low testosterone levels that have to be supplemented. Which technically speaking, is true. I went to the eye doctor a few years ago and got the “any medications?” question and it turns out that one pretty common medication that many trans women take is actually on the list of “watch out for” according to many opthamologists. Why? Because it can potentially dry your eyes out. It doesn’t pose any issue in my case, but the doctor still wanted to know why I was taking it. I claimed something similar to the above, because it was the EYE DOCTOR and I didn’t want to discuss being trans. But I felt guilty — claiming to have low hormone levels feels dangerously like co-opting or conflating the issues and experiences of people with other kinds of “disorders” such as differences in their endocrine system that stem from genetic or pre-natal causes (just for instance). And there’s too much of that going around sometimes already, but it was an easier way for me to retain some privacy.

  21. Holly – could you try back “Why do you need to know?” or something of the like? Maybe “because my primary physician and I think it’s necessary”? I think there’s too much info collection out there as it is. I’ve started practicing by telling the cashiers at the store no when they ask for my phone number, and am working my way up the authority hierarchy.

  22. Class priviledge is indeed the elephant in the room no one sees.

    Many, many progressives enjoy class priviledge and will not bend in their tendency to apply classism and racism in their own ‘action’ against the ‘system’.

    All too often I have found activists and progressive thinkers/writers applying a white, middle class values judgement on people for whose ‘rights and freedoms’ they propound to fight for.

    They serve the conservative position that the problem lies with the individual members of the other class/ethnic group themselves, that if they simply ascribe their values and behaviors (white, middle class), then all will be fine. Its just a matter of getting to ‘them’ and teaching ‘them’ how to act more like ‘us’.

    Which is one huge reason why progressive movements that depend on funds from those in power (white, middle class and above) find themselves facing resistance within their own ranks when confronting the very systems and insitutions said funders, backers and white middle class ‘helpers’ enjoy.

    And also why money is wasted on efforts that effectively do absolutely nothing to effect real change.

  23. Holly – could you try back “Why do you need to know?” or something of the like? Maybe “because my primary physician and I think it’s necessary”? I think there’s too much info collection out there as it is. I’ve started practicing by telling the cashiers at the store no when they ask for my phone number, and am working my way up the authority hierarchy.

    The thing is, doctors do need to know. They don’t necessarily need to know that you’re a transperson, but they may need to know that you’re not taking the medication for some other reason that would affect your treatment. It’s not an inappropriate question. What’s inappropriate is the response that the answer will sometimes provoke. Doctors need to be privy to intimate details of people’s lives, including those that people don’t usually share with strangers. For that reason, it’s especially egregious when they abuse their authority by mistreating people because of what they hear.

    (And honestly, I think doctors kill people by harassing them about their weight. How many women have died of breast cancer because they put off getting a mamogram so their doctor couldn’t lecture them about being fat?)

    This is a great post, piny. I wish I had something more interesting to add than saying that!

  24. brownfemipower said way up-thread:
    i wear glasses, and recently, i broke them–and of course I am/was too damn poor to even think of fixing them–that was the first time i actually realized that i am disabled–that i have a correctable disability, but it is a disability anyway.

    Very good point. I am non-functional without my glasses (I work in front of a computer all day), but I haven’t even thought about it as a disability because, being middle-class, I’ve never been in a position where I could not afford glasses. I was totally ignorant about how serious a problem poor vision can be to a poor person, until you brought it up.

  25. About how a trans person can be in a bed waiting to head into surgery, and everybody from nurses to doctors get their panties in a bunch–because why does this man need a hysterectomy?

    What a crock!

    Nurses are SUPPOSED to be on the look out for mistakes of this nature! Unecessary Surgery is a problem – every year more people are victims of surgical malpractice than you can imagine. The only person getting their panties in a bunch here is you.

  26. Right, because there’s serious risk that a man could have an unnecessary hysterectomy.

    The way to deal with this would have been to contact the people involved and tell them about the situation. The hospital, moreover, could have sponsored training sessions for how to deal with the inevitable transgendered patient. That would have been professional and respectful; this is ignorance exacerbating ignorance.

    I seriously doubt, furthermore, that the complaint is about a few respectful questions for said transguy.

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