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Well-known pickup artist allegedly shoots woman in the face

This is a guest post by Clarisse Thorn, who normally blogs at Pro-Sex Outreach, Open-Minded Feminism. It was originally posted in slightly different form at Clarisse’s “Love Bites” Time Out Chicago blog.

Oh Lord. Okay, so the recent shooting by well-known pickup artist Gunwitch has already been covered by Jezebel and other sites. I think that Gunwitch’s messed up attitudes about women are reflected in some parts of the pickup artist community. But I don’t think all pickup artists are represented by Gunwitch.

Let’s take a look at a quotation from one of Gunwitch’s pickup manuals:

Your initial state when seeing women you want is very important: the right one will cause you to approach them, the wrong one will panic and confuse you – preventing you from taking any action to ever meet them. If you do not meet them you almost certainly CANNOT have sex with them. Your internal state when you first see an attractive woman must be one of sexual enthusiasm, horniness, and unapologetic desire. NOT one of panic and wonder of what to do or what to say. When you first see your lone wolf, in a bar, a coffee house, a dept store, a bank, the gym -ANYWHERE – (I like the magazine racks at dept stores, where I can stand there and wait ’til some Cosmo magazine reading hottie comes into what feels to her like your space, and feels like she’s approaching, then boom I’m on it “so what ya reading?”), anyway ANYWHERE you see them you must imagine having sex with her, visualize it, feel the desire and lust. ALWAYS do this as soon as you see a woman you find attractive and eventually the state you will go into when seeing a woman will be one of -sexual- state, rather than panic or fear of meeting her. This makes approaching random lone women easier. Ted Bundy, the infamous serial killer/sociopath didn’t feel fear or panic when he saw a target. He felt rage, sexual perversion and desire to kill, hence NO fear to approach them, of course wanting to have sex isn’t the same thing, but its still more effective than feeling fear or confusion about your desires and direction.

Emphasis mine.

Now, of course I have sympathy for people who feel nervous approaching other people. In fact, I’ve written at least one entire article on how trying to pick people up is hard (and yes, the process can be just as hard for women as it is for men). However, the solution to defeating your anxiety about interacting with the opposite sex is not to destroy your own morality. Using Ted Bundy as a good model for approaching women is, to put it mildly, completely messed up.

I once spoke to a pickup artist who estimated that 60-80% of dudes who get into the pickup community do it because they are decent guys with serious social anxiety … but that 20-40% are guys who feel a lot of anger and misogyny and are trying to find ways to hurt women. Gunwitch, with his Ted Bundy ideas and others (the tagline for the Gunwitch school of thought is — wait for it — “make the ho say no”), is clearly very far on one end of this continuum. I would hope that most of the pickup community is on a very different place in the continuum.

Unfortunately, many pickup artists have actually been defending his actions with lines like “Im sure Gun has a perfectly good reason for shooting that girl in the face” (here’s one source). To which I literally have no response but stunned horror. A lot of pickup artists’ reactions are more reasonable, e.g., “Fuck you, Gunwitch”. But how many are attacking Gunwitch’s actions and how many are being quiet about it, or even supporting Gunwitch?

The pickup subculture freaks me out a lot of the time, and frankly I’ve had hours of pickup artist research where I have read what these men have to say and felt like I wanted to take a vow of chastity rather than ever risk having sex with one of them, ever. But I think there’s good in the subculture; in particular, there’s some amazing analysis out there, such as this fascinating post by Hugh Ristik: The Seduction Community, and Throwing Out The Baby. Still, damn. News like this is awfully hard to stomach.

For me, this scandal has crystallized one question: How much of the pickup artist subculture is useful advice for socially anxious guys, and how much of it is misogynist assholery that can arguably be connected to violence against women? I don’t think it’s possible to understand that subculture without recognizing that both those elements are present.

Now, I’m not saying that feminism should extend the olive branch to pickup-artist-world, and that we can All Be Happy Shiny Friends. There are a lot of serious issues with the pickup artist subculture that are worth analyzing. But there is also a big difference between socially anxious guys who need advice on how to interact with other people, and psychopaths who shoot women in the head. One of these days I’m going to write a whole article about my impressions of the pickup artist community … but for now, I’ll just settle for noting that difference.

Slightly Ashamed Self-Promotion Tuesday

(I know, I know, I’m hilarious.)

I have a new piece up at Global Comment called Floods in Australia… but what about the others? It’s about the disparity in the international media response around the floods in Queensland and those in South Africa, the Philippines and Brazil. I didn’t cover this in the piece because, when I thought it up, I didn’t know this was the case – yes, I know, quite fitting in with the premise of my piece – but there is also flooding in Sri Lanka. More than one million people have been displaced and at least twenty-three people have died.

Feministe guest blogger Queen Emily has just recently taken over as editor-in-chief at Global Comment, which was previously run by fellow Feministe guest bloggers Natalia Antonova and deputy editor Sarah Jaffe. So, Feministe readers, it should be quite your cup of tea. Head on over and check out a great progressive publication, do.

Also, a reminder that I’m busy talking women, books and feminist literary icons over at Bitch Magazine. I’ve got about a week and a half left of writing Iconography, and I’ve been loving it.

The nice pregnant lady’s guide to not offending polite society*

This guide has been compiled with your best interests at heart. If you think otherwise, just remember, you’re a little lady whose little lady brain is now addled by more hormones than ever! Best not to question the experts at this time, dear. * – Do note, however, that this guide extends only to dealings with polite society, which does not include various miscreants, shady individuals, and people who get their information on pregnancy from satanic abortion mills such as Planned Parenthood. This guide has been put together based on my own experiences so far, as well as the experiences of other pregnant ladies I have known.

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FNTT Season 7: the Chicks, man. Chicks. round

roast chicken in a bikini

Background on Feministe’s Next Top Troll is here. Today we bring you trolls who are flummoxed by the behavior of crazy-thinking, irrational, estrogen-addled ladies. As a warning, some of these comments contain sexually violent and rape-related language that may be triggering.

Vote for your favorite below the fold.

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Can’t We Just Be Friends?

You know what really grates on me? When adults see a little boy and girl playing together and try to style them as boyfriend and girlfriend. It speaks to an anxiety around trying to shepherd people into accepted roles and the “proper” ways of relating. And, as one gets older, there’s a whole lot of pressure to relate to friends of the opposite gender (I dislike that term so much: there aren’t just two genders, and the binary ones aren’t opposed) as though they are partners waiting to happen. It’s gotten me thinking about the valuation of friendship and homophobia.

Because there are some really homophobic and otherwise harmful dynamics going on here. It’s pretty rich to try and slot small children into modes of sexual development that they aren’t themselves expressing to one. It’s very sad that young men and young women aren’t allowed to be friends, but must fit into predefined narratives of coyness and aggression at the expense of connection. It’s something I’ve been conscious of forever but still find operating within myself; this stuff is damaging. Oh, and people who don’t have a binary gender? You’re on your own, apparently.

Why can’t friendships be important, too? Why is fitting into ideas of what kinds of relationships ought to be had so important that something as special as friendship has to be sacrificed?

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Not social justice from where I’m standing

I’ve been having a bit of a think about how asexuality is addressed in a social justice context. Well, to the extent to which it is addressed. I’ve been particularly troubled by how it gets manipulated as a politicised tool by sexual people at the expense of asexual people.

I almost always see asexuality brought up as a negative and inaccurately. For example, a disabled character or character of colour in a television show might be denied sexuality or coded as non-sexual. Someone critiquing this portrayal from a social justice perspective might condemn it as “asexualising” or some such, as though asexuality is an oppressive tool rather than an orientation.

As best I can gather, a good part of equating asexuality with the negative, with absence, comes from a skewing of feminist ideas around promoting sexual agency and fulfillment.

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