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Just because you call something satire, doesn’t mean it is.

Kat passed along to me yet another example of a “satirist” taking a stab at “A Modest Proposal” and failing, miserably, because said “satirist” fails to understand satire. This has been rampant at college papers lately; the latest was written by a high-school boy. The twist here is that the school paper, evidently staffed by editors equally as uninformed about satire as the author, published the piece. The principal, after having read the piece, seized 500 undistributed copies and created a newspaper advisory board. As a result of this, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution decided to run the column, meaning that Justin Jones’ poor excuse for satire has now been taken up as a freedom of speech issue.

For a millennium, the world has been plagued with stupid people corrupting society and bastardizing the value of life for all of mankind.

The intellectually handicapped have been reproducing at a substantially greater rate than those with a fully functional brain.

The problem of the unintelligent reproducing is, and has been, a serious threat to society that has gone unchecked for far too long. It is the responsibility of man to solve this problem before a reverse Darwinism takes effect.

It is depressing to think (especially at the high school age) that people with a high IQ are generally stereotyped as “geeks” or “nerds” because they choose to do more intellectually stimulating activities like homework, and reading, instead of those activities preferred by their peers like power lifting, full contact football without head protection, or crushing cans on one’s head. So while the intelligent are exiled from the masses, the ignorant are cherished and embraced.

Due to the substantial amount of low IQ reproduction and relatively low amount of high IQ reproduction, the intelligent become fewer and farther between.

This isn’t satire; this is the whine of a high-school geek who can’t get a date even though he’s entitled to one, dammit, because he’s smarter than you!

Really, if one is going to try to claim the mantle of Swift, one really has to understand the form. Satire is notoriously difficult to pull off well. The idea is not to just use sarcasm to vent your spleen and slap the label “Swiftian” on it. Good satire has a target, and uses exaggeration to make clear who the target actually is — and it’s usually the people whose point of view is ostensibly being presented. So when Swift wrote about the deplorable conditions of the Irish and suggested that they should be able to sell their babies as food for the rich, he was not targeting the Irish. He was targeting the people who kept them poor and wrote them off as inferior, as well as the social scientists of the day who made a lot of grand pronouncements about fixing society. And Stephen Colbert is lampooning conservative pundits, not the targets of conservative pundits, with his performance.

Good satire can sometimes be misconstrued as an earnest attack on the ostensible subject of the satire, but that is usually done by people who identify with the point of view presented. For instance, I grew up hating All in the Family, in large part because my father cheered Archie Bunker on. It wasn’t until much later, when I watched it on my own, that I realized that the joke was actually on Archie, and the show is brilliant satire.

Jones’ satire fails not just because it screams “Revenge Fantasy of High School Geek,” but because it fails to satirize a point of view in order to illuminate the repugnance of that point of view. Take the actual “modest proposal” bit:

First off, charity should be outlawed. No longer should people be allowed to use their children as a source of income. People who cannot afford to have kids simply should not have kids. Unemployment benefits also must be disbanded — go get a job. That isn’t to say those with disabilities should not be helped, but not with handouts, just a hand. One of the greatest minds of the century, Stephen Hawking, is immobile. Yet the courageous Mr. Hawking still manages to make strides in the areas of physics, despite being confined to his wheelchair.

Second, the government should compile a standardized test to thoroughly analyze any and all 5th grade students in the country for IQ levels. Based on the results of the test, those who perform in the bottom 25 percent should be executed. The executions will not be inhumane; simple lethal injections while one sleeps would be sufficient. With the bottom of every class systematically removed, over time the world would inevitably thrive and prosper like never before.

It is true that, without the unintelligent, there will be no one to mess up one’s order at the local fast food joint, or people on the news to give one something humorous to talk about at the water cooler at work the next morning, but that is a sacrifice, as a race, that simply must be made.

If this guy had any skill at all, it would be clear that he’s mocking a point of view expressed by some sort of elitist natalist pundit (such as, say, David Brooks or Mark Steyn, both of whom are known to lament that educated white women are not reproducing fast enough or early enough), not that he is mocking people with low IQs. And yet that is exactly what he’s doing. He’s indulging in a fantasy about getting back at the socially-successful dumb jocks by killing them; he’s also equating poor with unintelligent, so he’s got some class and race issues to work out there.

The AJC really missed the boat on this, too. Here’s what Maureen Downey wrote on behalf of the editorial board:

If students knew enough about Irish-born satirist Jonathan Swift to parody him, it would be cause for celebration in most area high schools. Instead, it led to censorship at East Coweta High.

Senior Justin Jones burlesqued Swift’s 18th-century essay “A Modest Proposal” in the September issue of Smoke Signals, East Coweta High’s student newspaper. Lampooning complaints about the drag on the economy by poor Irish families, the great Swift wrote: “A young healthy child well nursed, is, at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled.”

Titling his piece “Another modest proposal,” Justin suggested that the euthanasia of low-IQ students could alleviate the world’s woes. His essay and a critique of an East Coweta Princess beauty pageant by the paper’s managing editor Caitlyn VanOrden spurred a classic example of administrative overkill…

A “positive” school newspaper devoted to winning football scores is not only boring, but it doesn’t teach teenage journalists critical thinking skills. It doesn’t take courage to report that the high school band bought new uniforms. It does to challenge the status quo, and that’s what good school newspapers should do.

Clearly, Ms. Downey doesn’t understand what Swift was doing, either. Because if she really thinks that calling for the elimination of people with low IQs is challenging the status quo, she needs to get out more. By contrast, VanOrden’s critique of a school beauty pageant that doesn’t even have a scholarship justification *is* challenging the status quo. But calling for the elimination of welfare and the mass execution of unintelligent or disabled people? Not so brave:

Although the piece was meant as a satire and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s publication of it was meant as a political expression in support of freedom of speech, Jones’ words are reminiscent of the non-satirical, actual words of many of the nation’s and world’s leading contemporary scientific, academic, and political minds:

Renowned embryologist Bob Edwards said in 1999, “Soon it will be a sin for parents to have a child that carries the heavy burden of genetic disease. We are entering a world where we have to consider the quality of our children.”

Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus at the University of Ulster, complained to Newsday in 1994 that the least intelligent people were having the most children and suggested a solution: “What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the population of incompetent cultures. But we need to think realistically in terms of ‘phasing out’ of such peoples…Evolutionary progress means the extinction of the less competent.

In 2005, British Tory Deputy Mayor Owen Lister suggested the guillotine for children with disabilities rather than the expense associated with their education and care. “These are children you can’t educate. It’s merely a matter of caring for them until they die, he said, “It shows how peculiar we are as a society on this matter that we spend this vast amount of money caring for disabled youngsters to very little purpose at all.”

Peter Singer, a professor of bioethics at Princeton University, who unabashedly believes chimpanzees and gorillas have more moral significance than those with significant mental disabilities, has said, “It does not seem quite wise to increase any further draining of limited resources by increasing the number of children with impairments.”

Earlier this year, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported on a resolution before the Georgia Legislature that sought to apologize for the state’s forcible sterilization of 3,300 Georgians, many of whom had disabilities, who were deemed “unfit” for reproduction during the American Eugenics movement. And in February of this year, Cynthia Tucker, the editorial page editor, wrote a column on the same page of the paper that Mr. Jones’s column runs today, passionately arguing for the state to right its wrongs regarding the atrocities of the American eugenics movement.

I think we’ve seen from recent discussions here how very easy it is for able-bodied people to cavalierly disregard the bodily autonomy of the disabled, or to deny the humanity of those who are less intelligent. Jonathan Swift would be appalled that someone who sought to do the same thing was attempting to take the mantle of a Swiftian satirist.


38 thoughts on Just because you call something satire, doesn’t mean it is.

  1. I think another key part of satire is the participation of the author in it – Colbert mocks himself as he mocks others, for instance. Standing on the sidelines mocking others is puerile sarcasm, not satire.

  2. “If this guy had any skill at all, it would be clear that he’s mocking a point of view expressed by some sort of elitist natalist pundit (such as, say, David Brooks or Mark Steyn, both of whom are known to lament that educated white women are not reproducing fast enough or early enough), not that he is mocking people with low IQs”

    Granted that this is not especially good satire, but I *did* think it was pretty clear he was mocking that sort of natalist pundit.

  3. Nobody should ever read what high school boys have to say, especially what they think is wit and humor. They are not yet fully human. Luckily everything I wrote in hs is long since been pulped; otherwise I’d still be cringing today.

  4. Given that much of the country reacted to Archie Bunker as your father did, I have to wonder if the show was really that effective as satire. Sadly. I know that’s what it was intended as, but I wonder if it was too subtle to work.

  5. After I read this over quickly, I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt, but if this is truly satire, it means that this kid believes that America’s class system virtually kills those whom its education system fails, and those whom its economic system fails. Certainly a fair point: we (exclusive we) do sort of act as though the poor are stupid and deserve to be there, the kids who don’t get served well by the school system might as well be executed if they don’t get their GEDs, etc.

    It’s just that he believes we should keep doing this, and that he’s only exaggerating solid policy proposals.

  6. It might be worth thinking about having the discussion as to why humans are all that different and deserving of rights than chimpanzees and gorillas are. If you think that they are not deserving of rights, and your reason why involves, intelligence, cognition, or self awareness, then you do have issues justifying why the mentally disabled have rights, and the higher apes do not.

    I honestly think we actually do have to think pretty seriously about giving rights to apes.

  7. Satire is difficult to do correctly, but there is one easy test to see if minimally you might make it. Simply ask “What is the point I was trying to make?” If the point you were trying to make is exactly the point that the piece you wrote made, it isn’t satire. If it’s the opposite, then you can at least think you might have done satire.

  8. I think we’ve seen from recent discussions here how very easy it is for able-bodied people to cavalierly disregard the bodily autonomy of the disabled, or to deny the humanity of those who are less intelligent. Jonathan Swift would be appalled that someone who sought to do the same thing was attempting to take the mantle of a Swiftian satirist.

    Point well taken on this weak attempt at Swiftian satire. However, I am not so sure that his cavalier treatment of the “less intelligent” was his sole motivating factor.

    In addition to his “intellectual” snobbery, I’m detecting bitterness derived from the devaluation of intellectual pursuits and achievement in most American high schools and American society at large.

    This has been one constant complaint I keep hearing about from numerous college classmates who did not attend public magnet high schools. I also hear similar sentiments from college classmates who emigrated from countries where such pursuits and achievement are more respected. One of the first things that floors them is the fact that being the best student in the class not only does not garner praise and admiration from teachers and classmates, but would often cause one to be socially ostracized, harassed, and physically abused with little interference from the high school faculty.

  9. I don’t have a problem with what this kid wrote. He’s pissed off, and he probably has a good reason to be. I was there once, so I’m not willing to judge him.

    One of the first things that floors them is the fact that being the best student in the class not only does not garner praise and admiration from teachers and classmates, but would often cause one to be socially ostracized, harassed, and physically abused with little interference from the high school faculty.

    I like the way you said this, because it’s true. This is why the kid is pissed. It’s why I’m still bitter.

  10. I like the way you said this, because it’s true. This is why the kid is pissed. It’s why I’m still bitter.

    Entomologista,

    Though I had a taste of this treatment in junior high, it was only for two years and I ended up going to a public magnet school where members who took part in the math, debate, and science competitions were given more acclaim by their classmates than our athletes. In that sense, I lucked out and was sheltered from the worst aspects of American high school culture as described by many college classmates who were not as fortunate.

    His essay is problematic, however, because he places too much emphasis on high IQ and standardized test scores with high intelligence. I’ve met a fair number of high IQ/standardized test scorers in school and at work who were complete idiots and low IQ/standardized test scorers who I am honored to know and respect.

  11. Reminds me of that wretched pseudo-satire from…last year?…where a guy at Harvard or one of the other Ivies (I think) wrote a column on how rape is good b/c it got our civilization going, and it’s the only way fat/ugly girls are going to get laid anyway.

    Failed satire doesn’t begin to cover that or this.

    New rule: no one can write modest proposals until they have submitted a referreed paper that demonstrates their understanding of satire as a genre.

  12. For a proper satire, he should have encouraged executions of the intellectuals. Since they are the ones that his school mocks, he should encourage their elimination, even bravely volunteering to go first, in order that the status quo will be maintained or even “improved”.

    Instead, it’s just a lame whine from a privileged little boy. I think his plan of eliminating the bottom 25% of the class would have meant the extermination of Albert Einstein, so even there his satire is wrong.

  13. I don’t have a problem with what this kid wrote. He’s pissed off, and he probably has a good reason to be. I was there once, so I’m not willing to judge him.

    The problem I have with him is that he’s dressing up an angry screed as satire — and the AJC is passing it on as if it were satire — without it actually being, you know, satire. I suspect that it’s one of those situations where the “satire” label is applied so that the author can respond to criticism with, “But it’s satire! Don’t you have a sense of humor?”

  14. Given that much of the country reacted to Archie Bunker as your father did, I have to wonder if the show was really that effective as satire. Sadly. I know that’s what it was intended as, but I wonder if it was too subtle to work.

    You know, I find this to be really interesting, because my parents always recognized All in the Family as satire. And they enjoyed it. This is surprising to me because they are not exactly the most socially progressive people, nor do they pick up on subtlety very well. They are only 43 and 45 — maybe they’re young enough to have seen its satirical qualities made extremely apparent by others by the time they got around to watching it?

    Entomologista, what the hell does being pissed off at being treated like shit because you’re smart have to do with killing the mentally disabled? He’s not satirizing his situation, he’s fantasizing about the opposite. If this kid wanted to satire his situation, he should have written the piece from the opposite perspective, some not-so-bright know it all who thinks that academic achievement is rather periphery to the educational system. This may have intended to be satire, but it is shit and its offensive. Would you still think it’s acceptable if you replace the “bottom 25 percent” of IQ test scorers with “black people?” Or would you say what the fuck? I hope that it’s the latter, and if that’s the case there is no excuse for defending this piece here.

    I give the kid a break because he’s in high school, and I am convinced (like Hector) that any male (and a fair number, but not as many females) under the age of 18 is pretty much an idiot. Not in IQ, but in practice. Those who let it be printed and those who are defending it are who’s pissing me off.

  15. If this high schooler’s work is worth so much analysis, why not also do a line-by-line dissection of Swift’s original? Quite frankly, I don’t see that it’s stood the test of time. Maybe they laughed at it 300 years ago, but it seems terribly obvious today (assuming it was considered original back then). If the mantle of “Modest Proposal” is heavy, it’s because it’s so wordy, repetitive and over-written.

  16. i agree with the many who’ve said this is just nastiness masquerading as satire. and as others have hinted, i think this phenomenon, not just this article, is a HUGE problem in our society.
    from the King of All Sexism to Don Imus to Carlos Mencia to almost any right-wing male you’ll ever meet, and a very uncomfortably large percentage of men who think of themselves as progressive and cool, there’s a new mantra of protecting hate speech as a freedom of speech issue.
    it’s total bullshit. freedom of speech is important, but this kid, or Don Imus for that matter, is perfectly free to go spout their shit on any street corner they want to, but they don’t get a guarantee of a paid job doing it, or a platform in the mainstream press, or a guarantee they won’t be branded as the bigots they sound like.
    to me, all “political correctness” really means is that we aren’t supposed to call someone a bigot no matter how bigoted their recorded statements are. and i’m not playing.

  17. If this high schooler’s work is worth so much analysis, why not also do a line-by-line dissection of Swift’s original?

    A) Be my guest. Don’t you have your own blog?

    B) It’s 17 pages long.

    C) Line-by-line dissection is kind of irrelevant to my point, which is that if you’re going to be running around calling yourself “Swiftian” and offering “Another Modest Proposal,” you damn well need to have an idea of what made the original work as satire.

    D) Who cares if Swift’s style seems overwritten to us today? He wasn’t writing for us, and he didn’t have the benefit of an earlier Jonathan Swift to model off.

  18. Those of you with good school systems got lucky, I still feel cheated out of some of my education.

    I’m over that phase of my life where I’m an “intellectual snob”, but somehow… if this kid is such a genius and wants everyone to know how smart he is, he should learn the meaning of the word before claiming that his ill-disguised bitterness is satire.

    I still think his horrible musings should be protected by freedom of speech though.

  19. Hoo boy. If you hadn’t told me it was written by a high schooler, I would have assumed it was anyway. That’s just… that’s just awful. Did he read the document that he based this on?

    Reverse Darwinism: called “disgenics” and actually a real issue, just not, you know… in the sophomoric sense that this kid means. His article smacks more of Idiocracy than A Modest Proposal.

    This isn’t satire; this is the whine of a high-school geek who can’t get a date even though he’s entitled to one, dammit, because he’s smarter than you!

    Now, now, don’t feed into his misconception that geek is some sort of epithet. Geek is good. Why do people still think this is an insult…? He should attend a good Nerdcore concert.

    If the mantle of “Modest Proposal” is heavy, it’s because it’s so wordy, repetitive and over-written.

    Are you familiar with academic writing? Have you read any legal texts? Or are you at all aware that good satire affects the styles used by its objects?

  20. For a proper satire, he should have encouraged executions of the intellectuals. Since they are the ones that his school mocks, he should encourage their elimination, even bravely volunteering to go first, in order that the status quo will be maintained or even “improved”.

    Caren,

    With the exception of the narrator eliminating himself, the rest of this suggestion is not very original as it has been done countless times since the beginnings of recorded history.

    From pissed off tyrannical monarchs/oligarchs and religious clergy to more modern tyrannical authoritarian, fascist, and communist regimes….killing off intellectuals who were even perceived by the ruling elite to be against the prevailing social order has practically been an longstanding historical tradition. Incidentally, some of my own family members were intellectuals who came close to that fate under the “Great Helmsman” Mao Zedong.

  21. It might be worth thinking about having the discussion as to why humans are all that different and deserving of rights than chimpanzees and gorillas are. If you think that they are not deserving of rights, and your reason why involves, intelligence, cognition, or self awareness, then you do have issues justifying why the mentally disabled have rights, and the higher apes do not.

    I honestly think we actually do have to think pretty seriously about giving rights to apes.

    As somebody who is mentally disabled, I am still quite capable of finding the comparison of mentally disabled humans to animals, rather than to full human beings, dehumanizing and offensive.

    Mentally disabled people have to prove that we are human beings, not animals, all the time to society at large. You may have good intentions, I too support the protection of apes and other animals, but comparing me to them and others like me to them just reiterates and reinforces society’s bigotry.

  22. But Swift himself clothed much of his bitter rantings as satire, or as an observation of the general moral depravation. Much of his oh so clever satire is just a wordy repetition of: How dared these corrupt, vile Whigs to remove the worthy (like Swift) and turn England into a police state where opponents (like Swift) are banished to the wilds of Ireland and punished with the menial position of a dean.
    And most of his (good) satire is misunderstood until today.
    Defoe on the other hand liked to make fun of his own group, dissenters. But his best satire, “the shortest way” was much to close to the real thing and brought him in hot water from all sides.

  23. here are three ideas for good high school satire:

    1) Males are compared to females academic underachievers. Couple this to hormones. propose mandatory castration.

    2) Cite statistics that Hindus and jews and Wiccans are more intelligent than Christians and muslims. Propose the abolishment of the first amendment and the establishment of a hindu-wiccan state synagogue. All hail Lord Shiva Zebaoth, the horned god!

    3) Statistics show that lesbians have the lowest STD rates. Demand mandatory lesbian marriages for all.

    Arguments simliar to the above are made in the contemporary discourse and all disadvantage (presumably) the author.

  24. Cara if your parents are 43 and 45 of course they saw All in the Family as satire or at least understood Archie was the loser.

    I am 43. I remember loving that show when I was young, I was 6 to 14 when it ran. Who would your parents relate to? Archie, the crusty old guy who always got his comeuppance or Mike, Gloria and especially Lionel. Who was cool and understood more that was going on than Archie or his father George, but reacted cooler than up tight Mike.

    Liked the show. Think it was Archies peers that did not get it.

    Agree,, the kids article is not well done. What is his target?
    The kid is a dork, but who wasn’t.

  25. Part of the problem is that the author of this newspaper piece hasn’t actually read the classic statement of adolescent geek angst that he is echoing – a short story called The Marching Morons from 1951. (Here’s the wikipedia article)

    That’s what he’s echoing, not Swift. Of course, if he knew that he might have bothered to find out why the SF community recognizes that although the story was well done, and a classic of early SF, the social attitudes it expresses are truly repugnant. (This is common with lots of early SF, and with a decent portion of current stuff. You either learn to accept that or stick to only a subset of relatively recent stuff)

    At least, this is the conclusion of the grown ups among the SF community. SF has the problem that it is constantly receiving new community members with a strong dose of the whiny-geeky-male complex, and so has to go through the processing and eventual rejection of these attitudes on a regular basis. See also “slans are fans”.

  26. What I see is ultimate irony – the high-school author who “haha” jokes that his rivals on the football team should be done away with because HE is of what he considers the “intellectual” caste of his high school makes the case for his very own elimination. Yet hs own stance is uninformed, callous and structured poorly – so badly it depicts him as a thuggish goon who masks his agression behind a book – the same kind of goon he wishes to kill.

    His own satire is on himself…..

  27. By the way – doesn’t suggesting the murder of 25% of your classmates set off the school’s zero-tolerance school-shooting alarms?

  28. “His article smacks more of Idiocracy than A Modest Proposal.”

    That is exactly what I was thinking. And probably exactly where this child got the idea from.

  29. As somebody who is mentally disabled, I am still quite capable of finding the comparison of mentally disabled humans to animals, rather than to full human beings, dehumanizing and offensive.

    Mentally disabled people have to prove that we are human beings, not animals, all the time to society at large. You may have good intentions, I too support the protection of apes and other animals, but comparing me to them and others like me to them just reiterates and reinforces society’s bigotry.

    I think you might be missing bittergradstudent’s point a bit. Why should you feel offended at being compared to an animal? The thinking that divides organisms into “human” and “animal” is (according anti-speciesist thinkers) problematic. While you may feel offended, the anti-speciesist will want to say, you shouldn’t because the division of organisms is unfounded. People like Singer think it is bigotry to feel as you do – that you are for some reason better than animals.

  30. Geek is good. Why do people still think this is an insult…?

    Agreed. It still puzzles how our culture tends to denigrate those who love and excel at intellectual pursuits. Nevertheless, I’ve had plenty of practice attempting to explain this phenomenon to international students and recent immigrants who ask me to explain why those who are deemed “smart” and “intelligent” are constantly denigrated not only in public schools, but the American culture at large. IMHO, this screed is one symptom of this long-standing problem that goes back to the beginning of the Republic. Alexis de Tocqueville covers this anti-intellectual attitude in Chapter X of “Democracy in America”.

    Are you familiar with academic writing? Have you read any legal texts? Or are you at all aware that good satire affects the styles used by its objects?

    Considering the dense confusing and mindnumbingly dull tedious texts I’ve encountered in many poli-sci texts/journal articles and legal texts I’ve perused in my past, I will take Swift’s “Immodest Proposal” any day!!

  31. Geek is good. Why do people still think this is an insult…?

    Geeks are making a comeback. Colbert is climbing the ranks of Presidential candidates.

    Rasmussen shows Hillary Clinton leading with 45%, followed by Giuliani at 35%, and Colbert third with 13%.

    He leads the Republican pack.And what do you call all us progressive bloggers? We’re geeks and nerds so it’s not an insult online.

  32. “Geek” isn’t a good thing to be in high school despite the fact that adults can embrace the concept, and given that this was the word this kid used to describe his group, I’d say he’s not real happy about being a social outcast in his milieu.

  33. “Geek” isn’t a good thing to be in high school despite the fact that adults can embrace the concept, and given that this was the word this kid used to describe his group, I’d say he’s not real happy about being a social outcast in his milieu.

    Unfortunately, it was not only the students that would participate in the social shunning or harassment of a “nerd” or “geek”. I’ve heard many accounts of high school faculty who would join in. It was one reason why some of those classmates ruled out any possibility of considering a career as a K-12 teacher.

    Moreover, this denigration of the “nerd” and “geek” continues into adulthood in many workplace and social situations. I’ve witnessed how MBAs at one financial firm I worked at would denigrate those in technical departments or colleagues who admitted having intellectual interests outside of work.

    At family and corporate parties, I’ve seen the same denigration…oddly enough this seems from my observation to be common among those in the corporate business settings with MBAs….do I detect an underlying intellectual inferiority complex?

  34. I think you might be missing bittergradstudent’s point a bit. Why should you feel offended at being compared to an animal? The thinking that divides organisms into “human” and “animal” is (according anti-speciesist thinkers) problematic. While you may feel offended, the anti-speciesist will want to say, you shouldn’t because the division of organisms is unfounded. People like Singer think it is bigotry to feel as you do – that you are for some reason better than animals.

    I think you need to check your privilege before calling me the bigot, a person of a group who has to live with the realities of being labeled as something less than human.

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