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Today In “I’m Shocked, I Tell You, Shocked!”: In 2005, Bill Cosby admitted to drugging women

In a 2005 deposition for his first sexual assault case, brought by Andrea Constand, Bill Cosby admitted that he did acquire — and deploy — drugs for the purpose of having sex with women.

Cosby, giving sworn testimony in the lawsuit accusing him of sexual assaulting Constand at his home in Pennsylvania in 2004, said he obtained seven quaalude prescriptions in the 1970s. Constand’s lawyer asked if he had kept the sedatives through the 1990s, after they were banned, but was frustrated by objections from Cosby’s attorney.

“When you got the quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?” [Constand’s lawyer, Dolores] Troiani asked.

“Yes,” Cosby answered.

“Did you ever give any of these young women the quaaludes without their knowledge?” Troiani asked.

Cosby’s lawyer again objected, leading Troiani to petition the federal judge to force Cosby to cooperate.

Cosby later said he gave Constand three half-pills of Benadryl, although Troiani in the documents voices doubt that was the drug involved.

Deadspin has made all of the unsealed documents available online, and has pulled out a few key excerpts. Highlights:

  • The efforts Cosby’s attorneys went to to keep him from exposing the number of women he’d given drugs to (the evasive and only technically grammatical “he gave the Quaaludes” being as far as the lawyer was willing to go)
  • The fact that when he first spoke to Constand and her mother, they just wanted an apology and to know the name of the drug that he’d given Constand, and he was the one who later offered money
  • His statement that he met one of his accusers backstage, “[he gives] her Quaaludes. [They] then have sex” (whereas Therese Serignese, almost certainly the accuser in question, would be more likely to characterize it as him giving her two unidentified pills and then raping her in a bathroom)
  • And the fact that he still contends (despite his stated predilection for Quaalude-facilitated sex) that the drug he gave Constand was Benadryl

The AP asked the courts to unseal the documents, despite arguments from Cosby’s lawyers that “his embarrassment at the release of the discovery motions — deposition excerpts about sex, money, health, and marriage — would be severe.” (Whereas the women whose personal lives have been laid bare in an effort to vilify and discredit them obviously didn’t suffer severe embarrassment.)

U.S. District Judge Eduardo Robreno ultimately unsealed just part of the deposition, saying, “The stark contrast between Bill Cosby, the public moralist and Bill Cosby, the subject of serious allegations concerning improper (and perhaps criminal) conduct is a matter as to which the AP — and by extension the public — has a significant interest.”

More than two dozen women have come forward to accuse Cosby of sexual assault going back to 1965. A statement on Cosby’s website by his lawyers from November of last year (now removed) dismissed the new accusations as “decade-old, discredited allegations against Mr. Cosby,” saying that “[T]he fact that they are being repeated does not make them true.” Shortly thereafter, they clarified in another statement that the aforementioned blanket denial didn’t apply to Constand’s accusation — because, one assumes, they knew the courts had a deposition giving credit to that decade-old allegation, and that Cosby’s reputation as a friendly, fatherly, trustworthy type would be scuttled once and for all with his very own sworn testimony that he was actually a slipping-women-‘ludes-to-make-them-more-rapeable type. But yeah, all of those women are totally lying, and Bill Cosby would never do something so awful. We’ll just stick with that.


15 thoughts on Today In “I’m Shocked, I Tell You, Shocked!”: In 2005, Bill Cosby admitted to drugging women

  1. I’m disappointed in Bill Cosby. He overcame a lot in his life as a high school drop put to get a GED and eventually and PHD. And he was extremely successful in TV and stand up comedy. I’ve read the statute of limitations have run out so it is not possible to prosecute him now. I hope that in the future girls and women who are sexually assaulted by Hollywood types come forward and get the justice the women who Cosby assaulted will never get.

    1. Cosby allegedly paid two of the writers for his Fat Albert show to write his doctoral dissertation, so he can’t really be said to have *earned* that Ed.D (Doctorate of Education).

      But, not unlike how he doesn’t bat an eye at his criminal allegations, Cosby doesn’t give two shits about his fake education. If anything, he loves wearing the bullshit crown in the most asshole-ish manner possible! As Deadspin pointed out, during a 1989 visit to Notre Dame, Cosby used his academic stripes as justification to berate an All-American football player for making less than a 4.0 GPA.

      His verbal abuse made the kid break down into tears.

      As cruel and troubling as this incident is, it’s just another in the series of hypocrisies that have come to define what is now a rightfully disgraced icon.

  2. Please don’t underestimate the effect that Benadryl/diphenhydramine, especially prescription strength, can have on a new or inexperienced user. Even the nonprescription strength is sold as a sleep aid in a single dose.
    I slept through most of fall term, during my junior year in the ragweed capital of the Southeast. Someone smaller and lighter could be knocked out. Combine Benadryl and a benzodiazepene, and the effect is certain.
    That said, the a$$hole probably gave at least one of them both drugs and conveniently omitted mention of the benzo.

  3. I can’t help but wonder how Bill Cosby’s erstwhile defenders are feeling. All the time Cosby was maintaining his silence on the rape allegations, there were people putting themselves out there in the public sphere. There’s probably a different reason for each of them, but I suspect loyalty to Cosby and admiration for his work figured into the mix for just about everyone who stood up for Cosby.

    And he said nothing. He knew his deposition testimony from 10 years ago would probably not stay secret forever (it never does). But as far as I know, Cosby never let out a peep to the people who were publicly defending him to say, “Thanks for your support, but, uh, there’s something I should tell you . . . ”

    How would you feel if your friend hung you out to dry like that?

    1. I’m willing to bet the people who have hung on this far will keep on keepin’ on. Lots of “but why did they take the Benadryl”??

    2. Whoopi Goldberg is feeling jumped on…poor thing. She just doubled down and blathered on about having sons and brought up the Duke Lacrosse case.

      1. The Duke lacrosse case is apples and oranges , the Cosby thing is a whole different matter. I’m a long time Whoopi fan , but in this matter I think Whoopi jumped the shark as young folks say.

  4. ” [h]e did acquire — and deploy — drugs for the purpose of having sex with women.” Also known as “raping.”

    Seriously, I keep hearing “having sex” on the news in relation to this. It reminds me of the most recent stories of Mary Kay Letourneu, where the media kept saying, “When she started her relationship with Vili Fualaau.” Or recent media stuff about Roman Polanski, talking about how he “had sex with” his victim. You can’t have sex with or start relationships with people who cannot consent. That’s the whole goddamned point.

    So, yeah, I kind of want to hear it called what it is at all times.

    1. So I agree with you that they should call it rape, but I really don’t understand this:

      You can’t have sex with people who cannot consent.

      Uh, what? Can you provide a working definition of rape that isn’t ‘sex without consent’ or something similar? Are you also arguing sexual assault isn’t a real thing? Should we stop calling people sexual predators or sexual sadists?

      I can’t understand how the idea that rape isn’t sex is totally incoherent, logically and linguistically.

      1. It’s not sex. It’s rape. That’s the point ” you can’t have sex with someone without consent”.

        Sex with someone who didn’t consent is called rape, not sex. She’s asking that they use the proper word for the act. You did understand it, so stop pretending her wording is some linguistically confusing thing. Attempt to stay on topic.

      2. It’s not sex. It’s rape.

        Rape is a type of sex. It’s sex without consent.

        Define rape without using the word sex, please?

        Sex with someone who didn’t consent is called rape, not sex.

        Read that sentence out loud and see if you can spot the issue.

        You did understand it, so stop pretending her wording is some linguistically confusing thing.

        I understood the semantic content of her post, but I don’t understand how it’s logical to claim you can’t have sex without consent. Sex doesn’t have anything to do with consent, it’s a mechanical process. Consent determines if the sex is rape or not-rape.

      3. It’s not sex. It’s rape.

        It’s also stunning to me that, after I just said I think it’s incoherent to define sex and rape as mutually exclusive, you thought that was a useful response.

        Would you also like to argue that murder isn’t a type of killing, because it’s murder?

      4. This discussion is off-topic. If you’d like to continue it, please take it to spillover.

        (Edited to clarify: Specifying that this post, and other news articles, use “have sex with” when the correct term is “rape” is pertinent. Further minute parsing is welcome in spillover.)

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