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God, somebody tell me why: Bridesmaids

So last night, we rented Bridesmaids. We were already there at the Redbox, it was right there in front of us, and it was supposed to be a hilarious and heartwarming romp, right? It got critical accolades, it got 90 percent on Rotten Tomatoes–it should be a laff riot, right?

Holy shit, Batman.

Bridesmaids is easily one of the worst movies I’ve seen this decade. The characters were flat, the plot was contrived, and the pacing was miserable. The movie is what I like to call “emotional slapstick”–if you like watching someone get hit with a beam and knocked down two flights of stairs to land in the street and get pasted by a car, only to sit up and say, “I’m okay!” just as a bus arrives in the background to finish the job, you’ll love Annie’s Rube Goldbergian progression of screwups. I personally found them depressing.

Someone, please, tell me why this movie is funny.

The rest of the (interminably long [excessively parenthetical]) review is hiding behind the jump, partly out of shame but mostly to avoid spoilers, not that the movie can really be spoiled any more than it already is.

THE RUNDOWN (and this plot summary is really long, so feel free to jump down to the high points)

Annie (played pathetically by Kristen Wiig) and Lillian (played cleanly by Maya Rudolph) are best buds in Milwaukee. (This is all you’ll ever know about Lillian, who is never given any backstory or motivation–a walking MacGuffin.) Annie’s life is kind of in the toilet after her bakery failed and her boyfriend left her, and now she’s making booty calls with Ted (Jon Hamm, in a role that manages to make him unattractive) although–shock–she wants a romantic relationship but won’t ask for one and is only pretending to enjoy the no-strings sex. She’s working at a jewelry store (badly, haranguing customers about the miseries of romance) and living with two English fat-person caricatures (to whom she occasionally pays rent). Her friendship with Lillian is basically the only source of happiness in her life. (And for the record, her relationship with Lillian is played, in that first ten minutes or so, so beautifully and warmly that I wanted to cry. It was the high point of the movie.)

Then Lillian tells Annie that she’s gotten engaged to her boyfriend, Doug, resulting in the usual internal panic common to one-dimensional single-gal characters when their friends get engaged. Lillian asks Annie to be her maid of honor, Annie accepts, and this is literally the last good decision she makes throughout the entire movie.

We find ourselves at Lillian’s lavish engagement party, where we’re introduced to the other bridesmaids:

– Rita, Lillian’s cousin, a frustrated sexpot who is married with three kids whom she seems to occasionally despise;

– Becca, Lillian’s friend from work, who is recently married and perpetually happy, which for some reason we’re supposed to see as a bad thing;

– Megan (played gloriously and to the full extent of a shallowly written character by Melissa McCarthy), Lillian’s new sister-in-law and basically a female Chris Farley–because SAG bylaws require that fat actresses only be cast in roles that make them look ridiculous–and who is given the only funny lines in the movie; and

– Helen, the wife of Doug’s boss, who is beautiful and rich and refined and perfect and immediately presented as Annie’s rival.

The party scene features a squabble over the microphone as Annie makes a perfectly acceptable toast as maid of honor, followed by a more effusive toast by Helen, to be repeated way too many times until a painful a cappella duet of “You’ve Got a Friend” leads mercifully to a scene where Annie, driving home, gets pulled over for two dead taillights and is spared a ticket only because the officer, Nathan, used to love her baked goods. (This is not a euphemism.)

After this, everything is painful. Annie takes the bridal party to a seedy Brazilian restaurant for lunch, and everyone ends up with food poisoning. (In her defense, this wasn’t necessarily her fault, as she’d eaten there before without incident.) She brings them to a chi-chi bridal salon but can’t get them in because she didn’t make an appointment (which is SOP for David’s Bridal, much less some fancy, foofy shop). They’re only able to get in because Perfect Helen knows the owner and saves the day. Inside, their dress shopping is interrupted by five rapid-onset cases of gastrointestinal distress (also uncomfortably long), culminating with shots of Megan straining into the sink and Lillian squatting in the middle of the street to shit herself in a designer wedding dress.

Next up: Annie tries to arrange the bachelorette party at Lillian’s parents’ lake house, but Helen suggests Vegas, and because a secluded lake house is a kind of crappy place for a bachelorette party the rest of the party is on board. Despite her fear of flying, Annie’s sense of pride turns down Helen’s offer of an upgrade to first class and ends up sitting in coach, alone, next to a fellow aerophobe. Helen gives her a couple of sedatives to calm her down, followed by a glass of Scotch, because if there’s one thing we know about sedatives it’s that they’re great mixed with alcohol. (Seriously, don’t ever do this. There are no pills in the world that are improved by the addition of alcohol. Don’t eat a Tic-Tac with alcohol.) This, of course, leads to a wacky, uncomfortably lengthy sequence of Annie drunkenly/druggedly trying to sneak her way into first class and ultimately getting tackled by a sky marshal, after which the plane lands in Wyoming and the bridal party is escorted off by the police. (This is lucky, because with that combination of chemicals Annie would more likely have been escorted off by the paramedics.)

On the bus trip home, Lillian gently tells Annie she wants Helen to take over the wedding preparation. This hurts Annie deeply and is not followed by an explanation that after not-getting them in to buy dresses and then getting them kicked off the plane, Annie has demonstrated that she’s not really good at… anything.

Annie calls Nathan, and they hang out, talk, and sleep together, and in the morning he procures for her baking supplies in the hope that she’ll try baking again and be happy. He’s kind of pushy, and she walks out without explanation. She gets fired from her job after getting into a shouting match with a customer. She gets kicked out of her apartment by her roommates and has to move in with her mother.

Bridal shower: Helen has planned another lavish affair, using the Paris theme Annie had originally come up with. This makes Annie mad. Annie’s gift to Lillian is a handmade box of all their childhood memories, which makes Lillian melt. Helen’s gift is a trip to Paris, which make Lillian shriek with joy, which sends Annie into an (uncomfortably lengthy) fit of rage where she yells and storms around trashing the decor and throwing grass in the chocolate fondue fountain. Lillian kicks her out of the party and then follows her outside to kick her out of the wedding.

On the way home from that disaster, Annie gets into a wreck because her taillights are still out, and Nathan responds to the call, finding that a) she still hasn’t, as instructed, gotten her taillights fixed, and b) she’s being picked up by her booty call in his Porsche. On the way home, Ted’s lechery finally becomes too much for her and she gets out of the car and walks home.

She mopes around at her mother’s house until an appearance by Megan, who wrestles her around until she displays “that spark” that apparently Megan always knew was in there. Megan gives Annie a pep talk, inexplicably identifying herself as Annie’s friend. Rejuvenated, Annie bakes Nathan a cake and leaves it on his doorstep and is heartbroken to discover he doesn’t particularly give a shit.

On the day of the wedding, Helen comes to Annie because Lillian has been missing for twelve hours. As they drive to track down Nathan for help, Helen apologizes to Annie and reveals that she’s actually herself insecure and lonely and has no friends and is only invited to weddings because of her skills as a planner (which, as we’ve already seen, are legendary). She cries ugly, and Annie finds her misery awesome and bliss-inducing. When they find Nathan, Annie drives back and forth for an interminable length of time doing increasingly ridiculous stunts until finally she gains his attention by rear-ending his squad car. With his grudging help, they discover that Lillian is hiding out… in her apartment.

Annie goes in and talks to Lillian, who reveals that she’s worried about how life and her friendship with Annie will change after she’s married, and that she’s overwhelmed by Helen’s elaborate planning, and that she wants Annie to be her maid of honor again (because it worked out so well the first time). They make a few last-minute alterations on Lillian’s ridiculous wedding dress and make it to the over-the-top wedding, which features a laser show, fireworks, and a live performance of Lillian’s favorite song by Wilson Phillips.

Afterward, Annie and Helen make up for some reason and hug, and then Nathan shows up (after Helen called him), and they make up for some reason and kiss and drive off into the sunset.

THE HIGH POINTS

– Annie is insecure and neurotic, sleeping with a jerk in the hope of establishing a relationship, completely self-centered, unable to perform her job because of her own insecurities, and unable to consistently pay her rent.
– She has the standard woman-comedy freakout when Lillian announces her engagement.
– She sad-singles her way through the entire engagement party and allows Helen’s appearance to instantly and completely throw her off, leading to the tailspin that causes every problem that follows.
– She almost causes the bridal party to not be able to get dresses due to her lack of preparation, saved only by Helen.
– In her misguided pride, she refuses Helen’s offer of a first-class upgrade and sits in coach without anyone to comfort her through her fear of flying.
– She accepts mystery pills from her nemesis and then drinks alcohol on top of sedatives, resulting in an episode that gets them ejected from the flight to Vegas and a bus trip home.
– Despite finding what she considers to be a good guy in Nathan, she walks out on him without explanation at a slight provocation and refuses to return his calls until he finally gives up.
– She throws a temper tantrum at the bridal shower and destroys everything she can lay hands to.

And yet:
– Megan comes to her house to snap her out of her funk, identifying herself as Annie’s friend despite the fact that during their two-week acquaintance, Annie has focused on nothing but her own insecurities, putting her jealousy of Helen above Lillian’s needs or her relationship with anyone else in the movie. (We’re just going to shorthand that as “Annie’s kind of an asshole.”)
– Helen apologizes to Annie, despite the fact that Annie’s kind of an asshole, and Annie takes pleasure and finds comfort in Helen’s misery.
– Lillian cries to Annie and asks her to be maid of honor again, despite the fact that Annie has had no character development or arc and is exactly the same asshole she was at the beginning of the movie.
– Helen comes to Annie for validation and a hug, despite the fact that Annie has had no character development or arc and is exactly the same asshole she was at the beginning of the movie.
– Nathan comes back for a big kiss and a drive into the sunset, despite the fact that Annie was such an asshole as to offer nothing to get attached to in the first place, much less to come back for.

And also:
– As everything collapses, none of the other characters (Lillian included) ever speak to Helen or Annie about how unpleasant things are getting.
– At the end of the movie, Lillian says that Helen’s plans are over-elaborate and stressful, but she’s never spoken up about anything (and we’re never given enough data about her character to know why that is).
– While Annie perceives Helen as a threat (and Helen is admittedly strong-willed and competitive), Annie herself is actually the one who turns it into a competition by constantly trying for the one-up.
– Whether Helen’s actions were motivated by competitiveness, insecurity, or genuine affection, they got Lillian a lavish engagement party, a fancy wedding gown, a first-class ticket to Vegas, a lavish bridal shower, a trip to Paris, and a live performance of her favorite song by her favorite group, and Annie can’t see past her own jealousy to appreciate that.
– The entire movie was so deeply, deeply shitty that even a cameo by Wilson Phillips couldn’t redeem it.

TO SUMMARIZE

Incompetent woman, bridesmaidzilla, raunchy fat friend, poop, superfluous female characters, random drunken girl-on-girl, insecurity, jealousy, girl fighting, happy ending!

God, somebody tell me why this is a good movie?


141 thoughts on God, somebody tell me why: <em>Bridesmaids</em>

  1. Exactly! I bailed at the microphone wrestling part of the engagement party. Good to know I didn’t miss anything. Melissa McCarthy was magnetic, but her character was one unpleasant person among a cast of them. I wanted to gut Annie and Lillian!

  2. TOTALLY agree. This movie was so over-hyped to my husband and I, and so we were pumped to watch it, and then we did, and looked at each other and said, “Did you laugh? At all? Even once?” The bizarre thing is that people don’t seem to comprehend us when we tell them that we hated it. It’s as if this awful movie has brainwashed people somehow into thinking that it is a.) good and b.) funny. It is neither.

  3. Well, personally speaking i enjoyed it because…I thought it was funny. I saw it on a plane and then was laughing. Humor: it is subjective. A long plot description of the film will not convince me that the film was not funny. I found the jokes about the ridiculousness of the wedding industrial complex in particular to be quite funny. It was nice to have a main female character totally not have her shit together and *not* be saved by a romantic relationship, either (though she does get Roy, er Nathan, at the end).

    Doesn’t Megan decide to be her friend somewhat as a result of the Bridal Shower breakdown, too? *Remembering the look of joy on the other little girl’s face as Annie destroys the chocolate fountain.* It’s not totally out of the blue…

  4. Wow. Bold stance.

    Also, if the comment section for this post doesn’t keep me entertained for the rest of my workday, I’m going to feel just a tiny bit let down.

  5. Wow. We had… different takes on this movie. Yes, Annie is every bit as much of a trainwreck as you describe. I don’t think we’re supposed to sympathize with her actions, just with the fact that her life is falling apart at the same time her best friend’s is coming together. She’s insecure, she’s selfish, she’s the opposite of poised. But she’s also weirdly relateable. My life doesn’t look like hers, and I hope I don’t act like her, but I understand fully the feeling that your friends are leaving you behind, and of continuing to hook up with a guy you kind of loathe, and of turning away good guys because you get freaked out.

    And beyond any of the plot or character details, I think the reason so many people liked Bridesmaids was that it was a) centered on women being funny, and b) allowed them to do so in ways normally reserved for men (gross out humor, broad physical comedy, etc.). How many non-romance centered movies can you think of where the entirety of the lead cast was female? I can think of zero.

    If you didn’t find it funny, that’s totally a matter of individual preference, but I think the movie can still be appreciated for what it is: a buddy comedy entirely starring women.

  6. I have a good friend who adores Bridesmaids. (I think when I went to see it with her in the theatre, she was seeing it for the third time.) I didn’t really get it myself.

    Speaking of movies that other people love but I hate: Love Actually.

  7. Now I didn’t think that the movie was the revelation that the press made it seem, either. But one of the worst films of the decade? In a decade that includes the Twilight films and “Jack & Jill”? Really?

  8. My review wasn’t quite so amusingly negative — well done! — but I did find the movie to be problematic in a number of areas, pretty much all of which you cited. I’m still baffled as to why this was supposedly such a breakthrough movie for women. Give me Whip It any day. I hope that maybe Bridesmaids opens doors for Kristen Wiig to write and/or make a truly good and funny movie — maybe without Judd Apatow.

  9. Also, dang, there’s already a throwdown on Love Actually going down on The Hairpin too! Apparently it’s Defend the Silly Lady Comedies You Enjoy Day!

  10. I think the movie was mildly entertaining, but it was played out incorrectly. Annie was Ron Burgundy or the 40 year old virgin as a woman, but didn’t play as though there was a joke, much less that she wasn’t in on it. I think trying to do it sincerely, as opposed to over the top was the fatal flaw. She should’ve been more of a mess instead of on the border of it.

    Helen’s character got it right in the portrayal as an overachieving goody goody and it worked. Lillian’s character worked as the straight-man/ macguffin, and Megan’s character worked as the over the top tech girl with great timing. Ted as the insufferable dude-bro-guy in the Porsche was great.

    I think the fault of not giving scenes to the characters to flesh out why they were who they were and why they acted as such didn’t make any sense. And Annie’s mother appeared to be raised by a loving, nurturing mother who was played really well as a real mom. It didn’t make sense. It feels like the team was writing 3 movies, where Annie’s family was in another “heartfelt” movie, and then everyone else was in a raunchy comedy.

  11. Abby:
    It’s as if this awful movie has brainwashed people somehow into thinking that it is a.) good and b.) funny. It is neither.

    Yeah, that’s why I can enjoy media presentations, even though they contain problematic elements. Not because I can critically analyze content AND also appreciate its art or humor or other aesthetic value at the same time. Not that. Because brainwashing.

  12. My face hurt from laughing when this moving was over. I loved it. Different strokes I guess.

    I hate Love Actually.

  13. It’s more entertaining on mind-altering substances… errr, so I’ve heard.

    Melissa McCarthy stole the movie and used it in a video that was promptly pulled from YouTube for violating the TOS. Kristen Wiig’s character was uncannily reminiscent of a friend I’ve lost touch with.

    It was dumb, like every other flick in the genre.

  14. Esti:
    Wow.Wehad…differenttakesonthismovie.Yes,Annieiseverybitasmuchofatrainwreckasyoudescribe.Idon’tthinkwe’resupposedtosympathizewithheractions,justwiththefactthatherlifeisfallingapartatthesametimeherbestfriend’siscomingtogether.She’sinsecure,she’sselfish,she’stheoppositeofpoised.Butshe’salsoweirdlyrelateable.Mylifedoesn’tlooklikehers,andIhopeIdon’tactlikeher,butIunderstandfullythefeelingthatyourfriendsareleavingyoubehind,andofcontinuingtohookupwithaguyyoukindofloathe,andofturningawaygoodguysbecauseyougetfreakedout.

    Andbeyondanyoftheplotorcharacterdetails,IthinkthereasonsomanypeoplelikedBridesmaidswasthatitwasa)centeredonwomenbeingfunny,andb)allowedthemtodosoinwaysnormallyreservedformen(grossouthumor,broadphysicalcomedy,etc.).Howmanynon-romancecenteredmoviescanyouthinkofwheretheentiretyoftheleadcastwasfemale?Icanthinkofzero.

    Ifyoudidn’tfinditfunny,that’stotallyamatterofindividualpreference,butIthinkthemoviecanstillbeappreciatedforwhatitis:abuddycomedyentirelystarringwomen.

    Cosigned. I don’t expect intense character development from a buddy comedy; I think it’s kind of unfair to expect that from Bridesmaids just because it’s a cast of ladies. So we need to get all deep now? Fuck it, let’s do poop jokes. I can definitely understand that’s not your cup of tea but it doesn’t make Bridesmaids empirically unfunny, just not your thing. It’s basically the female version of The Hangover (which is not exactly winning any awards for character development of the year either).

    I actually identified with Annie, even though her character is, yes, drawn to extremes for comedic effect. I vividly remember how heartbroken I was when my best girlfriend got married, because our friendship was changing and it was really hard to be replaced as the most important person in her life. And then to also feel edged out by Helen in what role you could have in that wedding/marriage process? That blows.

    Maya’s character getting sucked in to the WIC fervor I also felt was pretty realistic of the average bride (especially were a rich friend to sweep you along into the fray).

  15. Couldn’t disagree more. I thought the movie was hilarious. I think the “oh noes I am single and my bestie is getting married must-freak-out-now” theme was a bit sexist, but just the fact that so many funny ladies were allowed to play slapstick and not be eye-candy for the mens IS a breakthrough in this film-making environment. Also, I don’t think the point is to sympathize with the main character, it’s to laugh at her. I mean, you have to think of this movie in the same genre as, say, Billy Madison or some other stupid Adam Sandler movie, or really any movie with a largely SNL cast. They are all bumblers.fuckups/terrible people/incompetents with a heart of imitation gold, etc., and yet in the end they prevail against some one-dimensional douche. The point is that women never get to play these roles, and in this one they were pretty funny. I don’t want comic heroes to be nice; I want them to be funny, and those are often mutually exclusive.

    Also, it was explained why Lillian didn’t speak up when Helen goes all elaborate with her wedding planning; Helen’s husband is her fiancee’s boss, so there’s a weird power dynamic there. She doesn’t want to insult her because that could screw up her husband’s job stuff. At least, that was how I read it. I also read Lillian as being internally mildly annoyed with Helen, but keeping it to herself in part because of that.

  16. I’m with Esti on this. There was a lot about the movie that I wasn’t into, but I could relate to how Annie felt (though I wouldn’t act like that). Annie acted like a petulant asshole, yes, but you saw why. It didn’t make her any easier to be around, and you couldn’t blame Lilly for asking Helen to take over MOH duties, but you saw what was driving Annie’s behavior and insecurity. Annie was also flat broke, and was feeling a lot of pressure about this (sorry, this is a sore spot for me as I was recently in a wedding and had to REPEATEDLY explain to other bridesmaids WHO DO NOT FUCKING LISTEN that no, I did not have $350-$450 for a long weekend hen party/trip because hello, I AM BROKE).

    Also–I don’t blame her for getting pissy with the whole, “Hey! I got all these baking supplies for you, you’ll feel better if you bake something” move. Though I liked Danny, dude needed to tread carefully there.

    Also, Helen was just plain irritating. I felt sorry for her–she was disrespected by her step-kids, was obviously insecure, etc., but she was still an irritating little shit. She was trying to one-up Annie, and keep in mind, she dissed the French-themed party as cliched and trite. Until it was up to her to throw one.

    Granted, my reaction to someone like Helen is to smile politely and then roll my eyes in the privacy of my own home or car (I don’t do catfights). I’d also be really blunt about the Vega$ trip (“I don’t have that kind of money, and I’m uncomfortable taking money from other people for this”).

    Also? I like the fact that now the ladies can be in gross out movies and not be, well, ladies. Just be women who fart and puke and do all kinds of shit.

    Another also–I FUCKING LOVE MELISSA MCCARTHY. “A surprising number of them are located in shopping malls!”

  17. I loved it. I know from personal experience how ridiculous and over-the-top wedding planning has become, and this film totally just shat (no pun intended) all over it!

  18. As someone who requires copious amounts of alcohol and pharmaceuticals to get through a flight, I found the scene on the plane hilarious. Also, at the beginning when the two speakers keep one-upping each other, and the scene where she tries to convince the guy to arrest her; the butterfly invitation, the roommates, the puppy-as-party-favor…I agree that narratively it fell apart towards the end, but Wiig wrote the movie and she’s an SNL person, where it’s more about the bit than the overarching storyline. And I thought the bits were damn funny.

  19. I loved it. I know from personal experience how ridiculous and over-the-top wedding planning has become, and this film totally just shat (no pun intended) all over it!

    Ditto. Weddings are totally ridic. And even some sensible people lose their shit when exposed to them. Ergo, comedy.

  20. And to be slightly more serious, my take on Bridesmaids was like Esti’s. Yes, Annie is a trainwreck, but actually not in the usual lady-trainwreck way. She’s sleeping with a jerk and she’s jealous of a prettier woman and she’s lost her job and her car is a lemon and she lives in a shitty apartment (and then with her mother), but to me that was much more interesting and complex than the usual Female Trainwreck who is just desperate for a man and marriage and is emotionally disastrous and needy (see, e.g., half the characters in He’s Just Not That Into You, which yes sadly I have watched). Annie was more like your typical dude-disaster (see: every Judd Apatow dude character ever). And as someone who has made many Bad Decisions, I found her a lot more familiar than the typical movie-ladies.

    I also loved Megan, and was pleasantly surprised that she was so un-Chris-Farley. She was legitimately clever and sweet; she was funny, but it wasn’t fat jokes; and she was sexual.

    The one character I didn’t like was the hyper-sexual mom, but she was kind of on the margins anyway. Otherwise, I thought the characters were actually funny and interesting. And I also think poop jokes can be hilarious when done well, and I thought they were hilarious here.

    Also: LOVE ACTUALLY IS AMAZING.

  21. Seth Eag: As someone who requires copious amounts of alcohol and pharmaceuticals to get through a flight, I found the scene on the plane hilarious.

    I don’t need them for a flight, but I’m pretty sure if I ever decided to get married I’d need them for the wedding planning process/the actual ceremony and reception. Which tells me that if hell freezes over and I get hitched, I’ll do it via drive through in Vegas with Elvis officiating.

  22. “if you like watching someone get hit with a beam and knocked down two flights of stairs to land in the street and get pasted by a car, only to sit up and say, “I’m okay!” just as a bus arrives in the background to finish the job, you’ll love Annie’s Rube Goldbergian progression of screwups. ”

    I LOL’d (and snorted) at this. You otherwise made the movie sound bad, but I think mayhap I should check it out 🙂

    Poop and weddings make a great combination, IMO http://failblog.org/2011/07/15/epic-fail-photos-probably-bad-news-great-scot/

  23. Jill, exactly. And I LOVE Love, Actually and no one will convince me that movie was anything other than heartwarming and delightful.

    Also, Jon Hamm as so-douchy-he-becomes-unattractive was awesome. I would love to see him do more comedies, he was fantastic on 30 Rock as well.

  24. Sheelzebub: Which tells me that if hell freezes over and I get hitched, I’ll do it via drive through in Vegas with Elvis officiating.

    We went to city hall. And had a hot dog. Hebrew national. We split it. And a bottle water. Best wedding I ever attended.

  25. Also, I forgot about Melissa McCarthy trying to figure out if the guy was an air marshal. I literally just started laughing out loud when I thought of this. Come on, it was a good movie…

  26. I thought of making a movie based on “He Just Not That Into You” with my sister’s life in mind called “Now You’re Stalking Her”.

  27. Yeah, I’ll add my voice to the pro-Bridesmaids chorus. I thought it was really funny and, unlike most male-centered buddy comedies, the characters actually felt very human and relatable to me. Sure, there’s the risk of playing up the sexist “jealous girlfriend of the bride” trope, but as part of the larger story of Annie’s crumbling life, it made sense. The one scened that really bugged me was Megan’s harrassment of the air marshal on the plane. Switch the genders, and the behavior depicted would be threatening not funny.

  28. librarygoose: I thought of making a movie based on “He Just Not That Into You” with my sister’s life in mind called “Now You’re Stalking Her”.

    This is an Epic Win. Award: One Internet.

  29. Helen apologized because she actually was trying to fuck up Annie’s friendship with Lilian all along. She offered Annie strong tranquilizers and booze in the hopes that she would get really, really high and make an ass of herself; she dissed and then stole Annie’s French theme idea in the hopes that it would piss her off; she sniped at Annie constantly to make her look and feel bad; and she tried to get her to throw up on herself at the bridal salon. A lot of her bad behavior was just insensitivity to Annie’s finances, but she was sabotaging Annie. She made that clear. And the wedding song was also a dig at Annie, because stupid broke childish Annie bought her friend a Wilson Philips single for her bridal shower.

    I thought Annie was about as much of a jackass as most people in comedies are, but I sympathized with her clumsiness and horrible social anxiety. I thought it was really great to see a woman feeling horrible not because her man had left her, but because her man had run away with her start-up business and all her money. She was pining for her restaurant, not for him. And she wasn’t freaking out because Lillian had a may-un, but because Lilian’s life was going in the right direction and hers wasn’t.

    And, uh, I also would not necessarily make an appointment at a bridal salon. But then, I’m an unrealistically-written screwup that way.

  30. I really, really don’t understand. I have seen this movie 3 times. I hate movies. I hate all movies. And yet, this movie each time I’ve seen it, kept me ROLLING IN THE AISLES. The plane scene!! The gruesome bluntness of the pre-wedding party! The PUPPIES being used as party favors?! The over-the-top represnetations of actual people I know. Forget sex in the city, which seems so unreal. I know people who are like every single person in Bridesmaids. I’m not sure why you call it “flat” either — the characters are changing, depressed, subject to social conflict…

    Do you hate Parks and Rec too?

  31. Thank you, Jill! Co-sign everything you said.

    I really, really loved Bridesmaids. I went in fully expecting it to be a stupid comedy, with stupid comedy archetypes, terrified that I would hate it. Instead, I left feeling wonderful about what these women had done for comedy in film by, in many instances, turning those stupid comedy archetypes on their heads in interesting ways (see also: the first Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle). Buried in there was also an insightful critique on how women are socialized to feel and behave about Weddings, Marriage, and all the homosocial baggage that comes along with it. I’m with you in that I could have done without the poop scene, but that’s my personal taste (ew).

    Also, come on, Kristin Wiig doing an impression of a penis in the cafe in the beginning? I basically peed myself. And exchanging whispered catty burns with the snotty teenager in the jewelry store for, like, five full minutes? For those of you who also loved this movie, here is an extended 10-minute improvised version of that scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SxmWn9e4Co

  32. Loved it, for sending up the insecure overachiever and passive-aggressive game playing, and especially for Megan.

    I can’t think of another movie where a fat woman is the moral center. I can’t think of another movie where a fat woman turns out to have to most self-actualized and fulfilling sex life (maybe Rikki Lake’s part in Where The Day Takes You, but nobody remembers that). I can’t think of another movie where a woman gets to do John Belushi, a giant ball of carnal wants, and it’s sympathetic. And she was better than the classic Belushi/Farley Fat Guy stock character, in that while her character was a walking id, she wasn’t stupid or incompetent, just socially awkward. Turns out she is the most generous, most competent, and even the most self-aware character in the movie.

    She blatantly cruises the guy she thinks is an air marshall, and at first it looks like the joke’s on her. But the joke’s on the audience! She got the air marshall! And they looked like they were having fun!

    And the movie deserves props just for lampooning the wedding-industrial complex. How many movies really skewer the Wedding As Institution instead of bowing to it? Every wedding-related comedy I’ve seen has ultimately mostly been a big ‘ol propaganda piece for Holy Matrimony And Big Weddings. Not Bridesmaids. The wedding closed with an over-the-top joke about over-the-top weddings.

  33. Okay, full disclosure: Yes, I love Love, Actually. The subplot where the kind of obnoxious guy goes to magical Wisconsin and ends up hooking with four hot chicks and bringing two more home is so fantastically ridiculous intercut with the other, more serious storylines. And yes, Melissa McCarthy was fantastic pretty much all the way through–the best line of the entire movie was, in my opinion, “Last week, I bought an 18-wheeler just because I could.”

    I think the reason I can’t do movies like this one is that I just can’t get into watching life slap someone upside the head again and again and again and again. Dan in Real Life, supposed to be a comedy? Incredibly depressing. Everything Must Go? Oh, sweet God. Obviously, Bridesmaids had a lot more goofy moments in it than those two, but watching things for Annie go from shit to diarrhea* just didn’t make me laugh. It felt mean.

    What did make me laugh? Megan taking all the puppies. Well, Helen offering puppies as party favors, and then Megan taking nine of them, when realistically six would be as many as she could handle.

    *not intended to be a joke, but in this case, I guess it works.

  34. piny: And she wasn’t freaking out because Lillian had a may-un, but because Lilian’s life was going in the right direction and hers wasn’t.

    And, uh, I also would not necessarily make an appointment at a bridal salon. But then, I’m an unrealistically-written screwup that way.

    This. Annie didn’t give a shit about being single per se, she felt like a failure and then kept sabotaging herself. And Helen was being a catty doucherocket.

    And I’ll second you on the appointment thing–I had NO IDEA. I was MOH at my sister’s wedding, and I had no idea that there were all of these things I was supposed to do. (And I didn’t make an appointment for dress fittings because I only got back into the country two weeks before she got married.)

    I hate weddings. HATE them.

  35. We can agree on the puppy-stealing bit. I was laughing throughout, but by the time the big ridiculous shower/meltdown culminated in the amazing slow pan of Megan driving past in the van with all of puppies, I actually couldn’t breathe because I was laughing so hard.

  36. I think the reason I can’t do movies like this one is that I just can’t get into watching life slap someone upside the head again and again and again and again. Dan in Real Life, supposed to be a comedy? Incredibly depressing. Everything Must Go? Oh, sweet God. Obviously, Bridesmaids had a lot more goofy moments in it than those two, but watching things for Annie go from shit to diarrhea* just didn’t make me laugh. It felt mean.

    I understand, but that’s kind of like saying that a sushi restaurant is terrible because you hate raw fish, or that Chicago is terrible because you can’t stand musicals. If you don’t like slapstick or unlucky loser storylines, of course you won’t enjoy a slapstick comedy about an unlucky loser. But as a slapstick comedy about an unlucky loser, Bridesmaids was pretty clever.

  37. I hate weddings. HATE them.

    I went to a wedding where instead of cake, they had trays of gourmet cupcakes. I ate like sixteen cupcakes. That was a cool wedding.

    But yeah, party-planning? Not my strong suit.

  38. I also concede that the bit with the puppies was funny.

    Side note: the public health professional in me was totally irritated by the whole food poisoning sequence because it takes considerably longer than an hour or two for food poisoning to hit you.

  39. In response to the positive reviews of Bridesmaids:

    1. You are all unequivocally wrong.

    2. The movie wasn’t completely without merit. LIke I said in the post, Annie’s and Lillian’s friendship at the beginning of the movie was so, so sweet and real. Stealing exercise in the park was hilarious. And Melissa McCarthy was a hoot.

    I’ll admit that part of my problem with the character of Megan is that I’m so used to that trope in movies and on TV–fat women who are openly confident and sexual–as a jab that my back was up as soon as I saw her. I was so expecting to see Ha ha! The fat woman thinks she’s sexy! Look at how silly she is! that I wasn’t really primed to see it as a character celebrating that instead of poking fun at it. It called to mind Glee’s treatment of Lauren Zizes, where sometimes she was a strong character and sometimes she was a punchline. But Megan’s awesomeness was awesome.

    Other highlights: During the driving-to-get-Nathan’s-attention scene, the point at which she was driving topless, with Helen gesturing like Vanna White, was hilarious. The puppies. The moment when Lillian sank slowly to the pavement as she pooped herself in the wedding gown. The butterfly invitation. As a recent bridesmaid, I really identified with Annie as she tried to subtly push for the more reasonably priced bridesmaid dress. And I loved the whispered argument with the teenager in the jewelry store. It’s just that none of it was enough to overcome my distaste for the rest of the movie–but the parts that were funny were really funny.

    I don’t think it’s too much to expect character development from a buddy movie. The movie was more than two hours long, and half of that was devoted to driving back-and-forth-and-back-and-forth and stumbling through an airplane and trading the microphone back-and-forth-and-back-and-forth, and while those were funny bits, they went on for so long. Give me just a couple of minutes to see that Annie was different at the end than she was in the beginning, and I’ll be happy.

    I was really excited to see that there was a rougher, cruder, jokier buddy comedy out for women, where the characters actually had fun and acted like real people. I was just disappointed that this was it.

  40. I am so saddened by this post. I loved BRIDESMAIDS. I thought it was awesome, amazing and great. I went to see it opening weekend because I wanted the studios to get the message that women want to see other women being funny. It meant a lot to me to see a movie with ALL women in it, written by a woman, being hilarious. And yes, being dirty and raunchy. Why can’t women be raunchy, too? How lame to say they can’t just because your sense of humor is prissy. Not fair, either.

    While I don’t really give a shit about wedding movies, and I’m sick to death of “wedding porn” romantic comedies that reinforce that women are defined by who they say I do to and not what they do, BRIDESMAIDS was subversive in that it was not about getting married & being approved of by a man…it was about female friendship. Name me one, ONE mainstream movie that did as well at the box office with ALL types of people (men and women) as this did where that, and not the focus of being redeemed by a man, is the plot line. This movie is important for that alone, and I’m sorry you missed that point.

    Attacking the movie is counterproductive. In doing so, I feel like you are basically negating the positive moves Wiig and female comedy writers like her (and the predominately female cast who are all also amazing) are making to get women taken seriously as comedians and writers. Pick your battles. Please don’t use feminism, which means a lot to me, as a bully club without thinking of the ramifications of how your personal distaste for slapstick comedy can misinterpreted as yet another “humorless feminist”.

  41. Brandy: Attacking the movie is counterproductive. In doing so, I feel like you are basically negating the positive moves Wiig and female comedy writers like her (and the predominately female cast who are all also amazing) are making to get women taken seriously as comedians and writers. Pick your battles. Please don’t use feminism, which means a lot to me, as a bully club without thinking of the ramifications of how your personal distaste for slapstick comedy can misinterpreted as yet another “humorless feminist”.

    Are you fucking kidding me?

  42. I think we did see character development, though? (Apologies if any of these details are wrong, I saw the movie in theaters months ago.)

    Annie: a) recognized she’d overreacted to the guy’s attempt to get her to bake again, and made a bunch of attempts to make it up to him; and b) when Lillian went missing, she swallowed her pride and did whatever had to be done to help her (making a fool of herself to the cop, teaming up with Helen, having an honest conversation with Lillian about why she’d (Annie) been such a trainwreck throughout the process). I even think her various meltdowns were growth, as she admitted defeat on trying to outdo Helen and told John Hamm off.

    Helen, for her part, admitted she’d been trying to sabotage Annie because she was lonely and wanted to be as close with Lillian as Annie had always been, and when Lillian went missing Helen swallowed her pride and went to Annie for help. And even Lillian, who we saw less of throughout, had her moment of growth at the end when she admitted that the whole wedding process had gotten out of control and that she missed Annie.

    Obviously, YMMV. But it does seem like maybe you didn’t like the movie because you don’t like movies of this type, not because it was doing what it did badly.

  43. “Lillian’s new sister-in-law and basically a female Chris Farley”

    Quick question, was this a bad thing? Because I find nothing bad in a comparison to Chris Farley. The man was fucking Brilliant. Him and David Spade pretty much shaped my views on comedy.

  44. I actually thought it hilarious. Sure it was mad hetero and pretty stereotypical, but it was funny as heck. Also, although I rather enjoyed ‘whip it’ as well, that movie for damn sure fell down on the absurd heterosexist scale. Everyone knows theys a whole lotta dykes up in the derby. Everyone except and entire movie about roller derby. lame. At least the dude-ly character was kinda likeable in bridesmaids. Unlike the totally unappealing idiot in whip it. That’s right, I base my criticism on how cringe-worthy the heteros making out section of the movie is, I totes do. I thought bridesmaids was funny as frack, and so did my GF. I love Melissa Mccarthy, and I love wilson-phillips. So sue me. 🙂

  45. OK, I wanna say as someone who generally liked Bridesmaids that it’s a bit silly to go off on Caperton for not liking the movie. She’s allowed to not like it, and not liking it is not attacking it or using feminism as a bully club. I disagree with her, obviously, but come on. It’s a movie fer Chrissake. Lots of people hate movies that everyone else seemed to love. I couldn’t stand My Big Fat Greek Wedding and everyone around me thought it was the best movie ever.

  46. Sheelzebub: OK, I wanna say as someone who generally liked Bridesmaids that it’s a bit silly to go off on Caperton for not liking the movie.

    Second this. I don’t think Caperton wants to destroy all copies of the movie and wipe from our collective memory.

  47. librarygoose: Second this. I don’t think Caperton wants to destroy all copies of the movie and wipe from our collective memory.

    I kinda wanna make a movie about that, though!

  48. Sheelzebub: I kinda wanna make a movie about that, though!

    Can you make a movie about thing that is supposed to be forgotten by everyone? How very meta…

  49. Sheelzebub: OK, I wanna say as someone who generally liked Bridesmaids that it’s a bit silly to go off on Caperton for not liking the movie. She’s allowed to not like it, and not liking it is not attacking it or using feminism as a bully club. I disagree with her, obviously, but come on. It’s a movie fer Chrissake.

    But what would the internet be without hyperbole? The internet runs on hyperbole! Without hyperbole, the entire internet would crash down around our ears, causing another massive meltdown and the inability of anyone to ever answer any question even again because we recycled all the World Book Encyclopedias.

  50. Thank. You. So. Much. EVERYONE was going on about how awesome this movie is but umm… no. Same old crap, thank you very much I don’t need more of the same old crap. I’ll stick to avoiding movies.

  51. Esti:
    Ithinkwedidseecharacterdevelopment,though?(Apologiesifanyofthesedetailsarewrong,Isawthemovieintheatersmonthsago.)

    Annie:a)recognizedshe’doverreactedtotheguy’sattempttogethertobakeagain,andmadeabunchofattemptstomakeituptohim;andb)whenLillianwentmissing,sheswallowedherprideanddidwhateverhadtobedonetohelpher(makingafoolofherselftothecop,teamingupwithHelen,havinganhonestconversationwithLillianaboutwhyshe’d(Annie)beensuchatrainwreckthroughouttheprocess).Ieventhinkhervariousmeltdownsweregrowth,assheadmitteddefeatontryingtooutdoHelenandtoldJohnHammoff.

    Helen,forherpart,admittedshe’dbeentryingtosabotageAnniebecauseshewaslonelyandwantedtobeasclosewithLillianasAnniehadalwaysbeen,andwhenLillianwentmissingHelenswallowedherprideandwenttoAnnieforhelp.AndevenLillian,whowesawlessofthroughout,hadhermomentofgrowthattheendwhensheadmittedthatthewholeweddingprocesshadgottenoutofcontrolandthatshemissedAnnie.

    Obviously,YMMV.Butitdoesseemlikemaybeyoudidn’tlikethemoviebecauseyoudon’tlikemoviesofthistype,notbecauseitwasdoingwhatitdidbadly.

    Yes, I was just going to chime in and say some of the same things re: Annie’s character shift. It’s subtle, and I guess I’d have to watch more carefully next time to see if she does really redeem herself with Lillian in the scene at Lillian’s apartment at the end. But in Hollywood time, I think there’s enough there to explain the reconciliation. If anything, I think their connection over both seeing the wedding dress as absurd and ridiculous reminds both of them that although Lillian has this new separate friendship with Helen, it Lillian and Annie still have a unique friendship and know and understand each other in a different way

  52. Okay, just because I’m honest: I have had a vendetta against Kristen Wiig ever since she kept me from getting into the Groundlings in 2002 on account of I was too tall, and I’ve been doing everything I can to jettison her career ever since. Her character on 30 Rock was originally going to become a series regular, but I know someone at NBC and I called and made them dump her. And she was the leading contender for the part of Rachel Dawes in The Dark Knight, except I swapped her veggie chili for regular chili the afternoon of her audition and she ended up in the hospital. And I’m not going to say why Jason Sudeikis won’t talk to her anymore, but it might be because of something I did. I also secretly hate feminism, so I thought if I could use the one as a big ol’ stick to strike the other, it would be like two birds with one stone.

    And I do actually want to confiscate all copies of the movie and use them to make shiny art deco wallpaper for my living room.

    But otherwise, yeah.

  53. At this point in my life–and six months ago when I saw it in the theater–I identified with this movie a lot. In a lot of ways, I was (and am, a bit) like Annie: Broke, terrible luck in romance, barely trudging my way through school, and one of my best friends got a dream job in DC straight out of college and moved there. I thought that the chain of events was actually kind of believable. When you’re in that kind of hole it is almost impossible to dig yourself out without some serious support and intervention, and I was lucky enough to get that (I’m getting better!) and so was Annie.

    I thought the characters were believable otherwise. And some of them didn’t get a ton of development but they were supporting cast so I didn’t expect all of them to. I am also a sucker for dumb and crude comedies–I grew up on them and they remain part of what makes me myself. So this movie seemed great to me. And encouraging, in a weird way.

  54. The movie had been so hyped up for me, that when I finally sat down and watched it a few weeks ago, I was underwhelmed. I think I laughed out loud once (when Annie was calling the flight attendant “Stove”). The movie mostly depressed me. But like the commentariat said – different humor, I guess.

  55. Caperton: I think the reason I can’t do movies like this one is that I just can’t get into watching life slap someone upside the head again and again and again and again.

    Definitely don’t watch Year of the Dog with SNL alum Molly Shannon.

    (Okay, do, because it’s good.)

  56. It was a cute movie. I was expecting something way funnier, but I’ve since come to the realization that Kristen Wiig isn’t funny (which has more to do with being on SNL than it does with her chromosomal makeup). But it wasn’t even CLOSE to being one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. For 3 reasons:
    1. Zardoz
    2. Manos Hand of Fate
    (Both of which I’ve seen recently, I’m sorry to say.)
    3. It wasn’t memorable. The thing I remember most about that movie was that it cost me $6 to see. It was mediocre at best because at no point during its run did I feel the need to gouge my eyes out. I laughed a couple of times, (and I did appreciate the appearance by what’s-his-accent from The IT Crowd), but for the most part, I can’t even call it a terrible movie because it wasn’t. I know terrible (see points 1 and 2), this weren’t it.

  57. librarygoose: Can you make a movie about thing that is supposed to be forgotten by everyone? How very meta…

    Like “Be Kind, Rewind” plus “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”.

    *opens up Word document*

  58. Sounds like movies that make you want to cry are just your preference. And that’s fine, but certainly should suggest that you might think carefully about declaring a movie not funny. It dragged in parts, but c’mon. The notion that characters cannot be flawed weirdoes in comedy is just….strange.

  59. Caperton: And I do actually want to confiscate all copies of the movie and use them to make shiny art deco wallpaper for my living room.

    HA HA! Vindication. In return for not revealing your MASTER PLAN will you also find and destroy all copies of The Happening?

  60. Oh, GOD, Rachel. ZARDOZ. That movie was so abysmally sucktastic that my lower intestine almost leapt up into my throat to strangle myself in a bid to put me out of my misery.

    /Shameless Douglas Adams pilfering.

    Which, by the way, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy was the second most sucktastic movie I’d ever seen. How could they sully such a fine books series? WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK? HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, HOLLYWOOD??? HAVE YOU NO DECENCY??

  61. I haven’t seen Bridesmaids yet, and while I generally ADORE movies about fundamentally flawed and fucked up people, and movies about people who get shit-on constantly, I agree that there are some that do it well and some that don’t.

    They tend to work better A) when the characters are sympathetic and B) when the those doing the shitting (not literally) get their comeuppance even if it’s very subtle. I love a good underdog story, but if I don’t feel like the characters are compelling or sympathetic then I have a hard time rooting for them.

  62. I guess I also found a lot of the jokes you were supposed to laugh at were really hateful?

    The ‘sex’ scene at the start of the movie, where Wiig’s character is clearly unable to get what she wants sexually and at several moments looks like she is being hurt…. There is no way that is funny for me, or sets the scene for a funny movie. It just makes me feel really sad.

    Ditto the “sexpot mum” talking about how much she hates her life and about how her husband ‘sticks it in her’ all the time but hasn’t kissed her for years? How is that not a rape joke right there?

    I felt like the fact that this stuff was supposed to make me laugh and not cry and curl into a little ball was, frankly, misogynist.

  63. Sheelzebub — for reals. I mean, with that kind of source material, how could they get EVERY ELEMENT SO WRONG and squish all the funny out? And in such perverse ways — Marvin the Robot with Alan Rickman’s voice? Perfect. With a body designed by Pokémon? WHUT? I mean, WHUT? It was just like this kind of sideways wrongness that was so … egregious. I COULD GO ON AT LENGTH.

    (see my forthcoming internet guide: derailing for Douglas)

  64. i’m honestly racking my brain trying to think of a truly funny comedy that featured perfect people beyond being laughed at who never make mistakes or have insecurities. I’m drawing a blank. Friends? I didn’t watch that, but I have heard that some people—not my friends or anything, but some people—liked it.

  65. I liked ZARDOZ. I mean, I’ve seen it twice and I’m only 45% sure about the plot. And that outfit Sean Connery is wearing? Yum. Nothing floats my boat like a halter/lederhosen made of red leather. And that extremely confusing plastic wrap sex scene? Cinematic magic.

  66. Jesus Christ, y’all, I don’t hate funny stuff. I watch The Big Bang Theory. I watch How I Met Your Mother. I watch Ugly Americans, which is ridiculous. I liked Firefly then, I like Castle now. I cry a little every time I ponder the demise of Better Off Ted. 30 Rock is getting a little stale, frankly, but it started out strong. Forgetting Sarah Marshall made me pee myself (just a little). Paul rocked my shit. Shaun of the Dead. Saved! I quote The Big Lebowsky until The Boy gets mad at me. Hell, I quote Clueless until The Boy gets mad at me. Priest was hilarious, but I think that might have been unintentional. You want pathetic/funny? John Cusack in Better Off Dead. Hilarious–there is no other.

    It’s not that I hate funny stuff. It’s that I think this movie isn’t funny.

  67. Sheelzebub: Which, by the way, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy was the second most sucktastic movie I’d ever seen. How could they sully such a fine books series? WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK? HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, HOLLYWOOD??? HAVE YOU NO DECENCY??

    Seriously, there should have been criminal charges involved there somewhere.

  68. Caperton 12.9.2011 at 4:52 pm

    Okay, just because I’m honest: I have had a vendetta against Kristen Wiig ever since she kept me from getting into the Groundlings in 2002 on account of I was too tall, and I’ve been doing everything I can to jettison her career ever since. Her character on 30 Rock was originally going to become a series regular, but I know someone at NBC and I called and made them dump her. And she was the leading contender for the part of Rachel Dawes in The Dark Knight, except I swapped her veggie chili for regular chili the afternoon of her audition and she ended up in the hospital. And I’m not going to say why Jason Sudeikis won’t talk to her anymore, but it might be because of something I did. I also secretly hate feminism, so I thought if I could use the one as a big ol’ stick to strike the other, it would be like two birds with one stone.

    This is really funny!

    1. In response to the positive reviews of Bridesmaids:

      1. You are all unequivocally wrong.

      Hahaha. This is why I <3 you.

      (EVEN THOUGH OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE THE WRONG ONE IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE).

      1. Attacking the movie is counterproductive. In doing so, I feel like you are basically negating the positive moves Wiig and female comedy writers like her (and the predominately female cast who are all also amazing) are making to get women taken seriously as comedians and writers. Pick your battles. Please don’t use feminism, which means a lot to me, as a bully club without thinking of the ramifications of how your personal distaste for slapstick comedy can misinterpreted as yet another “humorless feminist”.

        So I know this is going to blow everyone’s minds right now, but feminists can like different things, and can find different things funny! For example, I would bet $100 that 90% of the regular readers of this blog who have seen the show Buffy love the show Buffy. You know what show I CANNOT STAND? Buffy. I know. Fire me! But it’s not because I hate strong women or feminist plotlines. And if I write a post about how I think Buffy is kind of meh, it’s not because I’m trying to bully Joss Whedon or Sarah Michelle Gellar or whoever. And I would expect my critique to be taken as any other person’s — a statement of personal preference, based on my aesthetics and values and general likes and dislikes and preference for certain genres.

        In other words: Funny, opinionated post about movie is funny and opinionated.

      2. I loved this movie. I guess a sense of humor is required.

        GROW A SENSE OF HUMOR CAPERTON!

        Also, this post is funny! So to everyone who is like, “Caperton get a sense of humor!!!!” I say, “YOU go get a sense of humor!” (Please say that to yourself in a petulant, whiny voice).

  69. Caperton, your love of Better Off Dead redeems everything I may have disagreed with you on. You could murder a puppy and I would forgive it. That’s how much I love that movie. And yes, I know that it’s terrible. It’s still one of my all-time favorites.

  70. Ashley: I loved this movie. I guess a sense of humor is required.

    I keep trying to come up with something snarky to say, but instead I keep coming back to “Wow, you’re an asshole.”

    PRO TIP: Someone not finding something funny that you happen to find funny does not mean that person lacks a sense of humor. It means their sense of humor is not 1000% identical to yours. OMG IMAGINE THAT PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT AND SHIT. My mind, it is boggled.

  71. Capterton, please explain to me how you are RUINING FEMINISM yet have NO SENSE OF HUMOR (like Teh Feminists!) at the SAME TIME. Truly, you superpowers are magical, and I am in awe of the commenters who have caught on to them.

  72. Seriously, how are you going to put down a show like this and not expect someone to comment on sense of humor? It would be different if she just said, “I didn’t find this movie funny.” A lot of people I know don’t, and that is fine. Different strokes for different folks, but the author of this post went a step further and attempted to insult to movie, it’s writers, and people who found it funny.

  73. She didn’t insult people who found it funny.

    Geesh. Who knew that someone not liking a movie was so deeply insulting?

  74. The one character I didn’t like was the hyper-sexual mom, but she was kind of on the margins anyway.

    Ha ha ha ha haaaa, come back when you’ve been with the same person for 26 years, monogamously, and you have a couple of kids, and sex has many valleys as opposed to the many peaks of early in the relationship.

    I also thought the movie was funny. It was problematic as social commentary, but that’s not what I was looking for. My son and I saw it together and laughed almost all the way through. I agree that there were painful moments – the toasts at the engagement party were tedious – but I LOVED Jon Hamm as total jerk! Who would have thought it was possible? Also, as far as Annie goes, Megan herself said, “You’re an asshole, Annie,” and that’s my son’s and my favorite line. We say it to each other all the time.

    I liked that Annie was just a normal schlub who screws things up, and didn’t get all perfect and together by the end of the movie. That said, there were definitely some comic moments that fell flat, and most of them were Annie’s, I thought.

    As for Megan, she was fat, but was also wealthy, accomplished in her career, comfortable in her sexuality, and warm and loving. Not Farley-like at all, I didn’t think. Another favorite quote of ours: “Feel that steam heat coming out? That’s from my undercarriage.”

    And that’s why movie discussions are so much fun! Because people can have such different takes on the same film.

    Also: I loved Love Actually. Another secret feminist guilt.

  75. That movie sounded horrible to me, and thank you for confirming my suspicions. Once I heard about the “bride shits in the street” scene I knew it was not for me. It sounds like the girl version of Hangover.

    Plus well, I can’t stand Kristen Wiig. She gives creepy bug-eyed dead stare and weird/dead voice in everything she does, and I do not find her hi-larious at all. She just gives me the creeps and I want to turn off the TV.

  76. Esti:
    Yes, Annie is every bit as much of a train wreck you describe. I don’t think we’re supposed to sympathize with her actions, just with the fact that her life is falling apart at the same time her best friend’s is coming together.

    I agree with this. I did’t feel like I was supposed to sympathize with Annie’s behavior. In fact, I think that Annie recognizes herself to be “kind of an asshole,” but everything’s crashing down in such a way she can’t hold it together and be herself. And that I can sympathize with. I haven’t (thankfully) ever been in a position where literally everything in my life is going wrong simultaneously, but it is a movie, and that’s the exaggeration of it. I have, however, been in a position where a lot of things were going wrong and at the worst possible times. I know what it’s like to see yourself not reaching your own standards and not knowing how to get back to the place you’re supposed to be. And I like that the film demonstrates friendship to be more important than one perfect wedding day.

    If Annie didn’t show any character development, it’s because her character wasn’t what was really flawed. She was a good person the entire time; it just took clearing some of the fog from her situation to highlight those traits.

  77. Jennifer: It sounds like the girl version of Hangover.

    Yeah, I think that’s the crux of it. I totally appreciate that there is a girl version of Hangover out there, because there’s nothing wrong with a girl version of Hangover, but I personally hate movies like Hangover and I doubt I’d like Bridesmaids any better. (I do LOVE poop jokes, though.)

    I also think the “GET A SENSE OF HUMOUR” haters are deliciously ironic.

  78. Tei Tetua: Bechdel test pass/fail?

    I’d have thought at a feminist site it would item #1 for discussion.

    Um.. it’s an all-female cast. I think the Bechdel test goes without saying.

  79. I laughed. I didn’t like the fatophobia but the lead actress is talented, and honestly, compared to american comedy films with a male protagonist, she wasn’t even the biggest asshole I’ve ever seen in a film.

    I dig it because it’s about a woman who isn’t perfect or even particularly good. She doesn’t cope with change, she’s possessive of the stable relationship she was with her best friend… She’s just in the weeds.

    I didn’t like Helen because from personal experience; people who love grand gestures? They make you pay for it eventually. They might think they won’t but you will be stuck unable to reciprocate and end up doing their chores from now until doomsday. I’m not talking about someone who bales you out when you’re desperate, although… It can happen then too. I can see why Annie had class envy, she could be thoughtful but she couldn’t be grand, and it lead to her downfall.

    I still think it was better than any Adam Sandler or Ben Stiller movie I’ve seen in recent years. I’m still happy it proved a film fronted by women can be successful (although “All the people I’ve slept with” was funnier and way less successful).

  80. andie: Um.. it’s an all-female cast. I think the Bechdel test goes without saying.

    So that, sadly, is not true. See, e.g., a number of terrible romantic comedies involving Kate Hudson and/or Katherine Heigl and/or Jessica Biel. That being said, Bridesmaids does pass the Bechdel test, even if you discount all wedding talk as being somewhat related to a man — for example, Megan has a heartwarming talk with Annie about friendship and getting your shit together.

  81. See, e.g., a number of terrible romantic comedies involving Kate Hudson and/or Katherine Heigl and/or Jessica Biel.

    But if they’re terrible, why should I see them?

  82. I’ve seen it three times. I know that it is a stereotype that the fat girl is also the smart girl but she was the hero of the movie and I loved her. Annie was the incredibly irritating depressed friend we’ve all had, or been, who keeps doing the wrong thing over and over and OVER and over in a highly irritating and self-destructive way, but because you are her friend, you keep cutting her slack and hoping that she’ll eventually get her act together, and in the end, she kinda does or starts to at least. And at least she has an excuse (bankruptcy, loss of dream of bakery, and boyfriend dumpage all at once and not so long ago).

    But the thing is you will only like this movie if you are cutting Annie the slack, so she’s frustrating rather than despicable to you. That first scene, which establishes her friendship with Lillian, makes her likeable. But if that first scene didn’t establish her firmly as likeable in your mind then the rest of the movie will not work for you, because if you don’t like her already you’re not going to again until the the scene in Lillian’s apartment, and it’s too late by then.

    I didn’t think she deserved Nathan; she hasn’t grown up enough yet, and he’s a nice guy and will have met someone else by now; but hey, it’s a comedy, and they all end in weddings. What do you want, really…

    Just saw “Love Actually” after hearing about it for years. I loved it. But I love Emma Thompson in anything.

  83. The Mr and I did laugh at the ridiculousness of the wedding industry and are so very glad we did something different, but the relationships just didn’t hold me in. I don’t have people in my life like that for a reason (and those family members are held at a distance in my life) and I don’t find representations of unhealthy relationships funny. Yeah I just didn’t get it.

  84. I loved it. It was funny, it was not “typical.” I hope your next Redbox eperience is quite the opposite of your last one (if renting Bridesmaids was your last selection). Personally I loved it, saw it twice.

  85. I saw this movie and I thought it was an accurate description of what females go through in their quest to become the perfect bride. It was really sad that the main character put herself through all of that stress (i mean come on, her life pretty much sucked) and the best friend revoked her maid of honor title in the middle of the movie for the new best friend, but I’m glad that that happened because it was essential to the plot. It was important for the audience to see that true friendships between two women may have its downfalls, but they always can persevere if honesty and love are involved. Females are a tricky gender to pin down, and I think that this movie showed honest characters that still provided an insight into the female mind and feminist relationships.

  86. Jennifer: That movie sounded horrible to me, and thank you for confirming my suspicions. Once I heard about the “bride shits in the street” scene I knew it was not for me. It sounds like the girl version of Hangover.

    Plus well, I can’t stand Kristen Wiig. She gives creepy bug-eyed dead stare and weird/dead voice in everything she does, and I do not find her hi-larious at all. She just gives me the creeps and I want to turn off the TV.

    With all the hype leading up to the movie, especially about letting Hollywood know that women will show up to see good, woman-centered comedy, I went and saw it in the first weekend. Because I’m a dork I read all about it before we went.

    The poop scene was basically added in because the Apatow crew thought the movie wasn’t funny enough. Tons of people in the movie theater were rolling in the aisles, but I thought it was incongruent with the rest of the movie which has a more awkward, situational kind of humor.

    Wiig is growing on me as time goes on, but regardless, her usual SNL creepy-weird vibe is not a part of this movie. The Annie character is basically a sad sack whose life took some major unexpected turns, and she’s unable to get herself out of the rut she’s in. When her friends’ lives go on without her, and she’s forced into situations she’s uncomfortable with and can’t afford, and is put into competition with the new BFF who is rich, poised, and out to get her, the audience is meant to empathize with and see ourselves in the Annie character.

    I liked it. I would have liked it better without the Apatow touches.

    I seem to remember the general Feministe consensus was against Baby Mama because baby lust? I liked that movie too.

  87. Other thing I liked.

    Annie’s not a victim of circumstance. You see where yes, she was done wrong here and here, but she’s also kind of a self-centered asshole and is totally lying in a bed of her own making here and here. It’s kind of got the Bridget Jones vibe where you just want her to put on a nicer outfit and brush her damned hair and OMG don’t say that out loud slow motion NOOooooooooo! But it’s better than Bridget Jones, and the happy ending is less about getting the guy, and more about coming to terms with how her friendships with other women are changing and growing, including negotiating a new understanding with the “perfect” BFF. Ultimately, I think this newfound maturity and self-confidence the character’s redemption.

  88. Esti: So that, sadly, is not true. See, e.g., a number of terrible romantic comedies involving Kate Hudson and/or Katherine Heigl and/or Jessica Biel.

    Yeah, but those movies are rarely all female leads, no?

  89. As far as the Bechdel test goes, I guess I’m pretty forgiving.. I’ll consider two women in a movie and one saying to the other ‘Man, I had the hugest burrito for lunch’ as speaking to each other not about men.

    I thought at first that Tei was conflating passing the Bechdel test with actually being a decent feminist movie, as some are apt to do, but we know this isn’t always the case (see that weird movie with the school-girls killing shit.. can’t remember what it’s called. Or any one of the Barbie straight-to-DVD movies)

  90. This morning, I had two spontaneous revelations:

    1. I’ve put way more thought into this after the fact than I expected or intended.

    2. The reason I didn’t buy this as a “buddy film” was that I saw no sign of anyone acting like buddies. It was a cast of women, but not of girlfriends. Annie and Lillian were friends at the beginning of the movie and again at the end, but they were never supportive of each other in the middle. Of course Annie’s relationship with Helen was nothing but contentious, and her relationships with whatshername and otherwhatshername were absent because they were basically non-characters. Megan certainly tries to be Annie’s supportive buddy, but it’s half an hour before the end of the movie before Annie comes out of her self-focused fog to accept that support.

    In guy “buddy films,” the guys are buddies. They hang out and smoke pot and play video games, or they start their own fraternities, or they get blackout drunk and steal tigers together. They’re frequently dorks, and they have problems, and the solutions they come up with to those problems are usually comically stupid, but they do them for and with each other. Part of the reason Annie was so miserable was that she was basically on her own. It was pretty much the world vs. Annie, and that just sucks.

    And this is where I leave you, because it’s currently leaf-pile-jumping weather.

  91. I mentioned the Bechdel test because it’s such a great measure of whether a film takes women seriously or not. Actually a movie that allows a woman to be an asshole in her own right, and be called an asshole and go on living and possibly find her way to non-assholedom, is sort of a breakthrough right there. The convention of storytelling is that the men get to be the heroes and the villains, and women get to scream and/or simper depending on who’s winning the fight, and it seems as if [i]Bridesmaids[/i] at least manages to leave that behind. Of course in this flick there aren’t too many men around to impose proper order on the situation.

    And why is the spell checker underlining “non-assholedom”? It must have been created by illiterate people.

  92. What I don’t get is some commentators saying they don’t like movies. What. I don’t… It’s like not liking… books. It’s so very general.

  93. I am so, so glad that I am not the only one who hates Bridesmaids. I was initially SO SO EXCITED, because I love Kristen Wiig and I was all YES HOW AWESOME FEMALE COMEDIANS FINALLY SISTERHOOD YA YA, and then I watched it, and I kind of really just wanted to punch Kristen Wiig and then go do other activities super quickly to make up for those precious two hours of my life I wasted watching women hate on each other. Oh, and let’s not forget the poop/drunk bitch jokes. Least funny shit ever.

  94. Caperton:
    Thismorning,Ihadtwospontaneousrevelations:

    1.I’veputwaymorethoughtintothisafterthefactthanIexpectedorintended.

    2.ThereasonIdidn’tbuythisasa“buddyfilm”wasthatIsawnosignofanyoneactinglikebuddies.Itwasacastofwomen,butnotofgirlfriends.AnnieandLillianwerefriendsatthebeginningofthemovieandagainattheend,buttheywereneversupportiveofeachotherinthemiddle.OfcourseAnnie’srelationshipwithHelenwasnothingbutcontentious,andherrelationshipswithwhatshernameandotherwhatshernamewereabsentbecausetheywerebasicallynon-characters.MegancertainlytriestobeAnnie’ssupportivebuddy,butit’shalfanhourbeforetheendofthemoviebeforeAnniecomesoutofherself-focusedfogtoacceptthatsupport.

    Inguy“buddyfilms,”theguysarebuddies.Theyhangoutandsmokepotandplayvideogames,ortheystarttheirownfraternities,ortheygetblackoutdrunkandstealtigerstogether.They’refrequentlydorks,andtheyhaveproblems,andthesolutionstheycomeupwithtothoseproblemsareusuallycomicallystupid,buttheydothemforandwitheachother.PartofthereasonAnniewassomiserablewasthatshewasbasicallyonherown.Itwasprettymuchtheworldvs.Annie,andthatjustsucks.

    AndthisiswhereIleaveyou,becauseit’scurrentlyleaf-pile-jumpingweather.

    Because the world loves watching women get at each others throats. Mean Girls was popular for a reason, and people still go watch mud wrestling at lesbian bars. Oy, vey.

  95. I’m trying to think of a COMEDY that actually shows women as good friends (outside of ‘rom-coms’)… the best I can come up with is The Sweetest Thing.. The girls in that film do come across as good, basically supportive friends (except when one has to go to the dryer cleaner to get semen out of her dress). There are problems with that film (the whole happy ending=all three girls find men thing) but it was an actual woman-centered Buddy Film.

  96. I’ve long ago come to the conclusion that my sense of humor is pretty damn esoteric (and judgmental) and so I’m not bothered by not liking movies that seem to be otherwise very popular. (See: The Big Lebowski, pretty much anything involving Will Ferrell or Ben Stiller, stoner humor, humor based on bodily fluids, etc.) I also cannot stand movies that have a strong torture/sadism undercurrent, which applies as much to humor as it does to, say, my loathing of Tarantino.

    Having said all of that, the YOU DON’T HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR line in this thread is one of the funniest things I’ve read in ages. And that includes the *cough cough* performance art in some of the threads lately.

  97. @andie,

    A relative oldie but a goodie – Muriel’s Wedding with Toni Collette and Rachel Griffiths.

    But am feeling a little sad that I can’t think of anything more recent than 1994.

  98. Rebecca: Females are a tricky gender to pin down, and I think that this movie showed honest characters that still provided an insight into the female mind and feminist relationships.

    O_o

  99. @Little Suzy and Another Tracey.. I had forgotten Muriel’s Wedding. I haven’t see Connie and Carla, but at one point it was on my ‘too-see’ list.

    I had thought about Empire Records (more an ensemble cast than a buddy movie) but upon thinking more, Corey and Gina are not a great example of a supportive friendship. Corey slut-shames Gina, who immediately reacts by fucking Corey’s childhood idol, then outs Corey as a pill addict. Almost every conversation they have is about Rex Manning, or AJ, except when they take a break to rag on Debra.

  100. I suppose it’s a love/hate relationship with the jude aptow comedy format. I didn’t think this movie was any less awkward or painful to watch than Forgetting Sarah Marshall, which is another of my favorite comedies. I think the main characters are really similar, but I do agree that the hyper-sexual mom and the other random bridesmaid were annoying, and they didn’t contribute anything to the movie.

  101. Oh, does Mad Money count as a buddy movie? The three women (Queen Latifah, Diane Keaton, and Katie Holmes) don’t meet and become friends until after the start of the movie. Then they rob a bank together!

  102. I agree that almost to a woman, the characters are unbearable and the situational humor extremely contrived. However, I found the film to be amusing anyway, especially as I think there is an alternate interpretation: The whole movie is not reality, but Annie’s paranoia-induced perception of what is happening. Everything is so over-the-top unbelievable that I think it plays better to see it as Annie’s paranoid fantasy of her friend’s wedding. Who hasn’t had nightmares like this before a wedding?

  103. Clueless. Female buddy movie and very feminist – each character evolves, they fight, they make choices about sex. One of my faves.

  104. I have to say, I concur. The movie was rather denigrating to women. I believe there were some comparisons to the ribald humor of The Hangover movies but that movie celebrated its maleness. Bridesmaids was demeaning.

  105. Oh Caperton. I thought we were buddies, but apparently not. Bridesmaids was the hardest I have laughed at a movie in at least a decade, and I’m afraid that you have been utterly misinformed.

  106. This was one of the few movies I’ve ever walked out of. I found (at least the parts that I saw) it to be a bit problematic around race, and just…not funny.

  107. :::.I understand, but that’s kind of like saying that a sushi restaurant is terrible because you hate raw fish, or that Chicago is terrible because you can’t stand musicals.::::

    That’s just idiotic.

    There’s comedy that’s done well, and there’s slapstick that’s done well. But there is a disturbing trend in American movies to make everything as crude and vulgar as possible to get laughs. It’s like all the movies are becoming the movie in Idiocracy, of a butt farting the whole time, and the moron Americans howling at it as if it’s the funniest thing ever. I could endure that scene because the point was that that isn’t comedy, and it’s not only repulsive, but fucking stupid.

    His Girl Friday didn’t have to be stupid or disgusting to be funny. Never Been Kissed didn’t rely on appealing to the lowest fucking denominator possible to get it’s laughs.

    Hell, I could even live with some dumb, as long as it’s funny. What I cannot tolerate are movies that go out of their way to gross me the fuck out. Wayne’s World was a dumb dudez movie that somehow managed to be funny WITHOUT going out of its way to be vomit-inducing as a regular and common feature, unlike 99% of the so-called comedies Hollywood has shat into theaters since the 90s.

    No thanks. I’ll find something better to watch.

  108. I’ll agree with a lot of people here who have said they are not into over-the-top gross-out comedy.. I miss the days of really good absurdist humour like Mel Brooks and the Naked Gun films.. Where you had to be paying attention to catch some of the jokes.. you’re not slapped in the face with them.

  109. librarygoose: Quick question, was this a bad thing? Because I find nothing bad in a comparison to Chris Farley. The man was fucking Brilliant.

    Word! I don’t get it, they’re both fat and funny and theatrical and loud and that’s somehow bad? That’s not bad, that’s awesome! Chris Farley was king of playing super-nice-guy characters, big teddy bears who mean well but fuck up a lot but ultimately they are damn LOVEABLE. If Melissa McCarthy is the new generation of that, kudos to her, cause that means she’s doing a great job.

    *reminiscing: “fat guy in a little coat”*

  110. Interesting tidbit, I dont know a single guy who saw this movie and did not like it. I’m not sure I’ve read a male review who said it was bad either. But I do know of many women who did not like this movie. So much for it appealing to women, it seemed to have gone over a lot better for men.

  111. Anyone who didn’t laugh at Melissa McCarthy rescuing a van full of golden retriver puppies is dead inside.

    A VAN FULL OF GOLDEN RETRIVER PUPPIES. WITH PINK BOWS. AMAZING.

  112. I also found Bridesmaids hilarious! I could have done without the poop humour but there was enough other funny stuff to make up for it.

    One thing I don’t get though is the set up for the date scene where the date’s son takes Annie’s contraceptive pill. Why carry your pills in your purse if you only take them once a day? I’m sure I’ve seen this gag before actually.

  113. EG: In case you stay the night somewhere unexpectedly…

    Or not even including that, you just can’t guarantee you’ll be at the same place everyday at the same time in order to take the pill properly. Schedule’s do change, unexpectedly or not.

  114. @EG and @grogette – thanks for that! I must sound pretty naive eh? The one I take has a 12 hour window and I have always managed to be at home within that I suppose, even with schedules changing somewhat.

  115. “Annie was more like your typical dude-disaster (see: every Judd Apatow dude character ever). And as someone who has made many Bad Decisions, I found her a lot more familiar than the typical movie-ladies.”

    I completely agree! Guys get their lovable, but insecure or jackass screw up characters all the time. Look at every stoner, loss of virginity, and bro movie ever. Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill, Steve Carrell, Will Farrell characters (the list goes on). The women in such movies are often portrayed as ball buster wife/gf types, sex-pots, or super ideal perfect soulmates. I think women deserve to see this type of things in the movies too. We’ve all had times when we’ve screwed up, had our lives fall apart, or dealt with jealousy and abandonment issues. It’s nice to see a movie making fun of that type of thing about a woman without it being about some high powered business executive who just needs a man.

    Also I’ve carried BC pills in purse. It’s easier to have them on hand at all times, since, especially if you’re not in the same place at every time of the day or wake up and go to bed at different times.

  116. Just watched it. Yeah, that totally wasn’t as awesome as I thought it would be.

    The best part of it was Melissa McCarthy and I really don’t think it was because they played the fat thing. If anything, I found her character funny because she didn’t give a shit what anyone thought—she takes the puppies, she poops in the sink, hell, she puts a loaded gun in her brother bag for shits and giggles! Hands down, best character and actress in the whole thing.

    Many of the premises in the movie just fell flat—Annie being an asshole because she’s “losing” her best friend—like, what? Are we in high school? Been there, done that folks–and I’m just 27! So when 40ish Annie gets into it with the teenybopper at the store–complete with female swear words— I’m just like, Really? I just didn’t find that funny. It would have been funnier if all this crazy shit happened instead of some weird girl-on-girl hate.

    It seemed that the crux of Annie’s misery was losing her business, but what happens at the end? She gets a dude instead. Fuck that. Girl needed to get her business up and running again.

  117. Ok, so I haven’t read the comments. One thing that endeared this movie to me is I thought it’s sense of money and class was fairly on. The thing is, a part time jewelry store clerk (didn’t her check stub show about $300 or so at one point?) cannot just jet off to Vegas when she can’t even pay her rent. I think that’s part of what you are glossing over. When someone is planning a wedding, the financial situations of the bridal party must be taken into account. If Helen had always intended to pay for the entire bachelorette party, she didn’t make it clear to Annie.
    I agree with a lot of your other criticisms though.
    I think I liked the movie merely because I’m from Chicago and dated a girl north of Milwaukee for quite a while, so that simple geographic aspect appealed to me.

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