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28 thoughts on Happy Columbus Day

  1. While I agree with he underlying moral sentiment of this snarky ecard, I do not understand why Israel gets such a pass on this and other supposedly liberal blogs.

  2. Palestine: While I agree with he underlying moral sentiment of this snarky ecard, I do not understand why Israel gets such a pass on this and other supposedly liberal blogs.

    Said by someone who obviously hasn’t read feministe or the posts it’s had about Israel.

    1. While I agree with he underlying moral sentiment of this snarky ecard, I do not understand why Israel gets such a pass on this and other supposedly liberal blogs.

      And I do not understand why comment threads are routinely derailed by people wondering why this particular blog post is not detailing the exact issue they want to talk about.

      There are approximately 65 billion issues that I am not writing about today, but which all deserve to be covered. Since today is the American holiday Columbus Day, and since I am American, and since Columbus Day is a totally fucked up holiday but I have to work and do other things and therefore don’t have time to write an enormous screed about how fucked up it is, I posted this ecard. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t other nations that have been built on colonization and stealing and breaking contracts and denying rights to native people. It means that this post, which is literally one sentence long, is about the U.S., because we still celebrate our really horrible founding.

      And you clearly haven’t read any Feministe posts about Israel, because I hardly think anyone here has given Israel a “pass.”

  3. Damn, the “why is this not about me and my concerns?!” outrage in the very first comment! Popcorn time!

  4. This is a new record.

    Is it? I would have thought for something like this to be a record at Feministe, it would have to be all three of the first three comments.

    You know, we could have those sorts of stats as part of FNNT: fastest time to complain about subject post, shortest distance to Godwin’s law, thread with the greatest use of the word privilege, etc. Think the Elias Sports Bureau would help us out with this?

  5. Sheelzebub: This is a new record.

    The only way to top this is to have someone write a post wherein they call themselves out for not talking about some topic completely sperate from what they were actually posting about.

  6. Can’t we just change it to Leonardo Da Vinci day? That’s an Italian that all Americans could celebrate, right?

  7. FashionablyEvil: Is it?I would have thought for something like this to be a record at Feministe, it would have to be all three of the first three comments.

    You know, we could have those sorts of stats as part of FNNT: fastest time to complain about subject post, shortest distance to Godwin’s law, thread with the greatest use of the word privilege, etc.Think the Elias Sports Bureau would help us out with this?

    Most incorrect useage of the word “triggering”.

  8. Sorry, I was just venting. It’s a bad day at work and I am sick.

    And I am not so much critiquing the “official” feministe line on Israel (which is generally thoughtful and accurate) so much as I am frustrated by some of the comments I have seen on Israel threads.

    But y’all are right, this was a useless diversion. Sorry!

  9. groggette: The only way to top this is to have someone write a post wherein they call themselves out for not talking about some topic completely sperate from what they were actually posting about.

    CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

  10. I’ve often thought that the “Columbus Method” of ownership is the only way I’m ever going to get a home of my own. It’s not stealing, it’s “aggressively evangelizing your stuff.”

  11. Holy hopping Christ on a cracker, is this Feministe Week for drunk/sad/sick/in high school/WHATEVER people to be seeking group therapy via blog?

    Maybe there’s money in blogging as a new treatment model.

  12. LydiRae:
    I’ve often thought that the “Columbus Method” of ownership is the only way I’m ever going to get a home of my own.

    Pfft, yeah. I hear that.

    “But we live here.”
    “Yes, but do you have a flag?”
    “Well, no but..”
    “No flag, no country. Those are the rules that I just made up.”

    Oh, Eddie Izzard. *chuckles*

  13. LydiRae:
    I’ve often thought that the “Columbus Method” of ownership is the only way I’m ever going to get a home of my own. It’s not stealing, it’s “aggressively evangelizing your stuff.”

    Heh. When my lefty parents used to pass large, luxurious houses, one would think of the size of our apartment, sigh, and say to the other, “Let’s liberate that one in the name of the people.”

  14. andie, “and I’m backing them up with this gun that’s been leant from the National Rifle Association.”

    Columbus day is the day Italian-Americans celebrate a Catalan mercenary on the lam, pretending to be a Pisan, sailing for a Castillian Queen, “discovering” a place that was already inhabited, and had been visited by Europeans centuries before.

  15. I read that some South American countries celebrate Christphor Columbus day as well. Anyone know anything about that?

  16. Columbus day is the day Italian-Americans celebrate a Catalan mercenary on the lam, pretending to be a Pisan, sailing for a Castillian Queen, “discovering” a place that was already inhabited, and had been visited by Europeans centuries before.

    And then there are those who claim that Columbus was a Jew, for no particularly good reason I’ve ever seen except for the coincidental fact that the day his ships sailed was the same day in 1492 that the expulsion of the Jews from Spain took effect, and the fact that both his translator and his navigator were conversos (I believe they had recently converted in order to avoid expulsion).

    This is one “Looking for Landsmen” game where I’d really rather not find out that the person in question was one of mine.

  17. “Only white people like Columbus”
    -my dad

    Seriously, most non-European people see Columbus as a criminal. Because he was. And yes, I realize that not all white people like Columbus–but the people that think Columbus is worth celebrating are by and large white people.

  18. From Mad Magazine, c. 1984:

    “Only in America do we celebrate a man who lost two ships and was blown completely off course by closing the Post Office.”

    And one more from KOTH:

    Bobby (to John Redcorn): Did your people ever celebrate Thanksgiving?
    John Redcorn: Yes. Once.

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