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Your definition of foreign exchange is not like mine.

“Their experience of America is America within the four walls of a factory in a subcontracted company and in the heart of a company town, and that’s not the America they came to experience. . .These student workers are actually on strike for their neighbors, Pennsylvanians, demanding these jobs be turned into living wage jobs for Pennsylvanians.” —Saket Soni, head of the National Guestworker Alliance.

I don’t know how many of you heard about this–I learned of it over the weekend. Basically, students from various countries came over to the US on a J-1 summer visa program that allowed them to work for two months and then travel. It should allow them to make some decent money, to travel, and to immerse themselves in the life and culture of the US. But in recent years, there have been complaints of bad working conditions at the jobs.

Things finally came to a head this year, when 200 of these students walked out of their job at the Hershey packing plant in Palmyra, PA.

In the protest on Wednesday, about 200 students who were scheduled to start work on an evening shift at 3 p.m. walked into the plant and presented a petition with several hundred signatures to a management representative. Then, together with some students coming off the daytime shift, they marched out.

“There is no cultural exchange, none, none,” a student from China said. “It is just work, work faster, work.”

They came down the driveway to the plant, with semi-trailer trucks wheeling by, chanting, “We are the students, the mighty, mighty students!” and labor slogans in English as well as their own languages. The students said they believed that so many of them walking off their jobs would stop some production on their shifts.

The students–who had to pay anywhere from $3,500 to $6,000 for their J-1 visas, found themselves working overnight shifts with cameras trained on them. A large chunk of their pay–which was $8.35 an hour–was taken out for the program’s expenses, rent (which was $400), and associated fees, leaving them with less than $200 a week. The last straw was when they discovered their neighbors, who were not part of the program, paid significantly less in rent they did.

Hershey’s insists that they contract out for this work to be done; they don’t actually hire or manage their own factory workers anymore, apparently. (Does any company do this anymore? Or are they really into passing the buck?) The students are also holding the organization that manages the J-1 visa program for the State Department, the Council for Educational Travel, USA.

The students say their working conditions are harsh and exploitative.

“I pick up boxes that are 45 pounds,” said Yana Brenzay of the Ukraine. “I am 95 pounds, and if I don’t do it, supervisors come and make me do it.”

“I’m aching in every possible way, and my first thought is just to get into bed and sleep,” said Godwin Efobi, also of the Ukraine.

Most of the workers are students, ranging from 18 to 26 years old.

They hold J-1 visas and have paid to participate in a program that’s designed to teach them what it’s like to live and work in America.

Instead, several protesters said they have little contact with Americans, and the work leaves them exhausted. They also claim their average $8-an-hour wage barely covers housing and food bills.

While the complaints aren’t new, this is the first strike initiated by students on a J-1 visa. They have the support of the National Guestworker Alliance and union leaders and members of the AFL-CIO. The companies tried to mollify the students by offering a trip to various US landmarks The students want a couple of things: CETUSA to be removed as a sponsor of the J-1 program, and for their jobs to be returned to Americans who were laid off to make room for the much lower-paid guest workers.


37 thoughts on Your definition of foreign exchange is not like mine.

  1. They hold J-1 visas and have paid to participate in a program that’s designed to teach them what it’s like to live and work in America.

    And it sounds like the students are learning exactly that.

  2. Erin W:
    Sounds like they learned exactly what it’s like to live and work in the US.

    Yeah, pretty much.

    I feel for those kids, since it sounds like they were had, at least in terms of housing. But in a way, it is funny that what I think sounds like a pretty normal working environment is exploitation to others. I mean, I didn’t make that much per hour until I moved to a very expensive city in the US and was older and had lots of experience. And I’m only 25. I think this should be a wake up call that our minimum wage is a joke.

  3. Erin W:
    Sounds like they learned exactly what it’s like to live and work in the US.

    Wait, what??

    No.

    This is a case of exploitation. Having your tiny paycheck taken away from you for rent and food (neither of which, I bet, is optional) is NOT what it’s like for regular working class Americans. It’s what happens to the people who make our cheap clothes in foreign countries.

    “….If I don’t do it, supervisors come by and make me do it.”

    That is not just a shitty minimum wage job. That’s exploitation.

    “It is likely that some of those students who are complaining do not even realize to what extent they are being exposed to America,” said Rick Anaya, head of the Council for Educational Travel USA, which brought these workers to the U.S.

    Awww, screw ’em! Life sucks for us, too, right? What are we doing about it? Maybe the lesson in this, too, is that we should all be a little bit angrier about how American workers are treated.

  4. Having your tiny paycheck taken away from you for rent and food (neither of which, I bet, is optional) is NOT what it’s like for regular working class Americans.

    For us regular working class Americans, rent and food *aren’t* paid for out of our paychecks?

    Am I misreading this?

  5. This reminds me of a guy from Beijing I once talked to who claimed that the professors at the universities have sweetheart deals with sweatshop operators to make their students go down for an 18-month “internship” as a prerequisite for graduation. Apparently the students didn’t see anything wrong with the arrangement.

  6. “For us regular working class Americans, rent and food *aren’t* paid for out of our paychecks?”

    Comparing what most working class Americans go through to pay the bills (which tends to suck donkey balls) and what people go through when their employer is also their landlord and grocer, who gets to automatically deduct rent and food from paychecks whose precise amount they know before the worker does, doesn’t really work. Programs like these–whose practices also frequently seen in onshore sweatshops and factories staffed mostly or entirely by undocumented workers–are how company towns used to function. It’s a different level of fucked which is precisely calibrated to keep you completely fucked forever either by preventing you from saving anything (paycheck – rent – food = $10) or keeping you in debt (paycheck – rent – food = $0). It’s why Pullman had to be buried in a graverobber-proof mausoleum.

  7. Here’s an article to my point:

    Students have been widely used as interns in most of the surveyed factories and were forced to work 10 hours or more a day, it also said.

    “The students intended to learn and practice skills during internship,” Lu Huilin, an associate professor of sociology at Peking University, who helped conduct the survey, told China Daily on Friday. “But they were used by Foxconn as simple working machines and failed to receive any professional job training.”

    Guo Yuhua, a Tsinghua University sociology professor, who also participated in the project, said the interns have no choice but to work like robots at Foxconn, as the internship is required for graduation.

    She pointed out that the problem should also be blamed on the education authorities and schools that signed contracts with Foxconn.

    http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/news/new-302.html

  8. I have to agree with those who are saying that these students found out what america’s like. A lot of people make $8 and pay more than $400 in rent. My first apartment was $375, but that was 10 years ago and I made $6 an hour then. If they really have close to $200 a week left after rent and food, then they’re doing better than many.

    So yes, they are learning what it’s like to be american. And the correct response to this should be to ask when the fuck did america start sucking this much?

  9. If anything, this is more like how it used to be in America, because this sounds a lot like debt bondage to me. And how *NOSTALGIC* of Hershey to bring back concepts that went out with the Company Town and child labor in sweatshops – ohwait

    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52871

    Gee, why don’t we just go back to the days when companies could pay you in scrip… ohwait

    http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2008/09/mexico-supreme-court-orders-wal-mart-to.php

  10. preying mantis:
    “For us regular working class Americans, rent and food *aren’t* paid for out of our paychecks?”

    Comparing what most working class Americans go through to pay the bills (which tends to suck donkey balls) and what people go through when their employer is also their landlord and grocer, who gets to automatically deduct rent and food from paychecks whose precise amount they know before the worker does, doesn’t really work.Programs like these–whose practices also frequently seen in onshore sweatshops and factories staffed mostly or entirely by undocumented workers–are how company towns used to function.It’s a different level of fucked which is precisely calibrated to keep you completely fucked forever either by preventing you from saving anything (paycheck – rent – food = $10) or keeping you in debt (paycheck – rent – food = $0).It’s why Pullman had to be buried in a graverobber-proof mausoleum.

    Thank you. Eloquently said, and much better than I. I have definitely known what it was like to not know whether I’d be eating this month and I’ve known the fears of being on the brink of homelessless but it was infuriating me to no end that people were saying, “Oh, that’s just what it’s like in America.”

  11. They’re not complaining because they had to work for minimum wage on a factory floor. Most J-1 jobs are student jobs, low-level and unskilled. (Although most are geared toward contact with USians.) The point isn’t to make money. The point is to live and work in the US–English immersion, US cultural immersion. How much cash do you think an au pair gets from her host family?

    They need that experience in order to find jobs back home. They’re complaining because they just paid thousands of dollars for it, and didn’t get it, and instead have been shamelessly exploited at every step of the journey by their “designated sponsor.” They’ve been cheated out of credit, instruction, and fair compensation, and they’re right to be angry. They’re not naive. They’re trying to compete in their own markets.

  12. preying mantis – thanks for the further info. I was (am) confused although less so now. Memo to self: read all the OP links before reading comments.

  13. OK, look.

    These students came here to work with Americans, live with Americans, and immerse themselves in American culture. They weren’t expecting cushy marketing jobs at Steve fucking Madden; they were expecting the opportunity to meet and live among and work with Americans, to improve their language skills, and to better understand American culture. They did not want to be used as cheap replacement labor as a way to push out the locals who were already doing the jobs they were doing. They did not shell out $3,500-$6,000 to do backbreaking work in a factory with no contact with Americans (besides a boss who bitched at them for not being able to load half their weight). They did not shell out that dough to push Americans out of their jobs. And yes, I suppose that $400 a month is average for rent in some places, but kindly keep in mind that their neighbors (people who were not part of this program) were paying less.

    And FWIW, their protest is in solidarity with the workers who are unemployed, and that one of the things they want is that those jobs go to the unemployed people who live here, and for them to be paid a living wage.

  14. This is beyond appalling. This is some kind of grotesque parody of…ethical reality, if there is such a thing. It’s like if someone with absolutely no empathy, sense of humor or human values of any kind watched that episode of The Simpsons where Bart goes to France as an “exchange student,” and gets abused and enslaved by a couple of sleazeball farmers, and this person decided, in all seriousness, that that was a handbook for labor strategy.

    Except these weren’t sleazeball French cartoon farmers. This was the Hershey Company. One of America’s oldest and best known consumer brands, operated by a charitable trust.

    Let me repeat that: A CHARITABLE TRUST. For orphans.

    This kind of kidnapping or deception for forced labor used to be known as “shanghaing.” It would be funny if any of the victims here were in fact from Shanghai.

    On second thought, no, it wouldn’t.

    As for Hershey, the charitable trust that controls the company has caused company management no end of grief, and now it’s coming to a head. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of folks.

  15. The one thing that I haven’t puzzled out of this whole affair is the answer to the following question of mine:

    Why, god, would anyone want to study American culture?

  16. Wow, I would have LOVED to be making $8 an hour and only paying $400 in rent when I lived in the States! I’m not being sarcastic, that’s pretty good.

  17. @Maka: Happens to everyone there, apart from the very very rich. Gotta say though, they took their inspiration from the UK and the USA regarding some things.

  18. We’re not the UAE. As a citizen of the US, I’m more concerned with our actions. I don’t care if every other country does it.

    Also, can we please stop with the “hey, that’s pretty good, I would have loved to have made that much money and paid so little in rent” BS? I was making that amount and paid that much in rent about 20 years ago, and I was struggling. I was also not here on a foreign exchange program, where I already paid $3,500 to $6,000 for a visa. (If it cost me anything to get a visa to work in Japan as an EFL teacher, it was negligible, and I was paid far better than these students were–and ironically, my visa was for work, not as part of a cultural exchange program.)

    Maybe they wanted to immerse themselves in American culture and the English language because it would make them more marketable at home. Or maybe they’d just like to see the US and meet people here. They’ve certainly showed a lot more solidarity towards the workers here than many of my fellow citizens.

  19. I would have LOVED to be making $8 an hour and only paying $400 in rent when I lived in the States! I’m not being sarcastic, that’s pretty good

    Yeah, those sweatshop workers! What lucky bastards!

  20. Nimue….hey, if that’s the case, then step right up and don’t be shy! I’m sure there’s plenty of contract labor places right here in the midwestern US that would love to give you the deal of a lifetime.

    FFS, can we talk about labor issues *anywhere* without the “oh, that’s not so bad” argument? As if unless a person is experiencing the worst of human degradation, ze hasn’t suffered enough to warrant an end to hir suffering? And do I have to remind you that these young people were performing hard, physical labor for long hours, with probably no safety procedures, and thus risking a lifelong injury and/or physical disability? For shit pay?

    What Sheelzebub said.

  21. Bitter Scribe, thanks for the link. What a big ball of fail.

    Oh, that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Hershey has floundered for years in part due to its unique (as in, uniquely fucked up) ownership structure. The charity trustees who run the company aren’t, for the most part, businesspeople, and they’re notoriously slow to make decisions. This has robbed Hershey of flexibility in business strategy for a long time.

    Not only does ownership by a charitable trust drag down Hershey competitively; it doesn’t seem to do a damn thing for the company’s conscience. Besides the labor issue that is the subject of this post, Hershey has dragged its feet for years on pledging not to use cocoa harvested by child slaves in west Africa.

    The company has coasted for a long time on its charity roots, plus the goodwill that comes from eveyone loving chocolate. Maybe something like this labor visa dispute will shake up management and make them realize they can’t literally sugarcoat everything. But I doubt it.

  22. It makes me sad to see that the unions who should be standing up for these students are trying to mollify them instead and make them happy to be taken advantage of. Where is the outrage and the anger that should be backing these students instead?

  23. Siveambrai, it’s the companies that were trying to mollify them with a trip, not the unions. The AFL-CIO and various union leaders are backing them.

  24. Sheelzebub:
    And FWIW, their protest is in solidarity with the workers who are unemployed, and that one of the things they want is that those jobs go to the unemployed people who live here, and for them to be paid a living wage.

    Does anyone here actually believe this will happen?

  25. Sheelzebub:
    Should they not bother with a strike, then?

    No, it’s a nice idea. They definitely got a raw deal and I really appreciate that they’re showing solidarity with the locals, instead of just taking the apology and the “tourism trip” and running. I just don’t think it will come to anything, based on my experiences of growing up in a post-industrial PA town not unlike Hershey. The CEO of Hershey obviously doesn’t give a damn about either the students or the locals, and we all see how well strikes of “non-skilled” (I think it takes an awful lot of skill to lift half your weight, but that’s just me) workers turn out. Sorry, pretty disillusioned today.

  26. Hershey’s insists that they contract out for this work to be done; they don’t actually hire or manage their own factory workers anymore, apparently. (Does any company do this anymore? Or are they really into passing the buck?)

    Yes, they do. Mother Jones (iirc) did a piece on Hormel Foods and Quality Pork Producers recently—the former being a well-known and well-regarded producer of Spam and various other meat products, and the latter being the shell company they created to run their slaughterhouse operations, basically so Hormel could lay off the union slaughterhouse workers and have QPP hire them back, nonunion, for lower wages.

    Also, many grocery stores and likely other businesses tend to contract out their custodial work. Same line throughout—“we contract that out, it’s not our problem.”

    Because Heaven forbid someone expect them to be ethically responsible about how the companies they do business with treat their employees.

  27. Why, god, would anyone want to study American culture?

    Because despite all the issues that average USians face, they are still better off than a large majority of the world’s population. You actually have a first amendment that protects your right to say what you like. In most of the world, including the western world, there is nothing as strong as the first amendment.

    Because despite all the xenophobia leftist Americans see, it is amazingly receptive to immigrants.

    Because you will receive refugees from countries you are at war with (like Iraq) and offer them a path to full citizenship.

    I spent 9 years in the US (from India here), and despite the occasional issues I faced, it was still an incredibly welcoming country compared to my travels in the middle east or even within India, where you are more likely to be judged on the basis of region or caste from your name or skin tone.

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