This came up in the comments section a few posts down, and I thought I’d put it up for everyone to see:
I have to confess that I don’t understand this ceaseless quest for victimhood. Being raped doesn’t confer some mystical moral superiority on a woman, it just makes her a victim. And unfortunately, in all too many cases, it just makes her a stupid one.
I’m just curious what basis the moral relativists have for condemning rape in the first place. If I deem the slaking of my desire for lust – or violence, if you prefer that theory of rape – to be an intrinsic good, who are you to condemn it? Certainly, one could argue that it is a violation of private property rights, but then, what of those moral relativists who reject the notion of private property. If all property is held in common, then how can a woman object if I decide to make use of that which belongs to me?
So in case you ever wondered how conservative assholes like Vox Day actually view women, it’s as straight-up property.
But maybe Vox is just a nut. I mean, surely the readers of his blog, being decent human beings, will condemn this, right?
Actual rape is another area in which the feminists shot themselves in the foot. Back in the day, women had the protection of their fathers, husbands and brothers. Their fathers, husbands and brothers usually had guns. So what have the feminists been trying to do? Get rid of the men AND the guns! I’d take the protection of a man or a gun over a chastity belt any day!
Ain’t that the truth. Because you know that married women, or women who live with their fathers or brothers, are never ever ever raped.
Women treat men like men treat TVs – but in the latter case you can keep pressing buttons and then just hit “off”, it doesn’t work like that with Men.
This is a problematic subject. It wasn’t back when chastity was both valued and assumed – when women (and likely most men) remained virgins until marriage, or at least tried to. This was the milieu where “rape-shield” laws were passed so you couldn’t ask a woman about what happened in college.
Today, in a world of one-night-stands, and where a woman might have had a different consensual partner the past few nights, and where provocative dress is the norm, we need to decide if these women were raped when after a series of “yeses”, she alleges a final “no”.
I don’t think Islamic women have these problems, nor their court systems.
Of course Islamic women don’t have these problems — from what I see on Fox News, those little ladies really know their place! (and note the capitalized “Men”).
“Date rape” is nothing but post-sex buyer’s remorse. Male victims refer to it as “beer goggles” or “slumming”.
No comment here.
Yes, in a profound and awesome way, rape is actually the possibility for life, whereas the other crimes – stealing, lying, murdering – are all about destruction.
I said that to someone once who built her life on the “my [black] ancestors are the product of rape.” She was shocked into silence, but continues to live the ideology of the ‘victim’.
Rape is about giving life, not about violence or destruction. That’s a new one.
Actually, the only thing that makes me consider rape to be as awful as it is IS the possibility of life, and also STDs. In of itself, while it can be fairly painful, is not that much of a big deal. Certainly, it’s trespassing against your property and could result in great bodily harm, and you have the right to defend yourself, but mostly it’s psychologically damaging more than anything else.
I’m always very skeptical of women who claim they were raped- especially to completion- because it is actually extremely difficult to rape a struggling, dry woman. Now, if there’s a weapon involved I could see why a woman might not resist, but for the most part I think that if a woman regrets having sex, she thinks it was rape.
Rape “isn’t a big deal”? And you can’t rape a woman who’s not aroused. Right.
He said she said is worthless. In the middle east a woman needs a Man as a witness to charge another man with rape. Women are not smart enough to realize what they are doing to innocent men.
Rape in this country, in many places, is a worse crime than murder. What’s striking is that there are only 15k convictions for 85k accusations. It has the lowest conviction rape of any major crime. Which is scarey and tells us that women are not capable of making decisions on their own.
We should really make our rape laws more like those in the Middle East, and our problems would be solved. For some reason, I don’t think that argument would go over so well with most Americans.
Isn’t this obvious? Not to “blame the victim” or anything, but you have to take responsibility for your actions. If a woman dresses like a ho and flirts like a streetwalker, she is probably going to have to deal with a few sexual advances. What else would you expect?
It’s a bit like approaching a group of Crips late at night and calling them a bunch of bleepin’ faggots and then slapping one in the face. They still wouldn’t be within the law when they promptly shot you and stole your jeans, but you still reap what you sow.
Not to blame the victim, but I’m gonna go ahead and blame the victim. And “sexual advances” don’t really equal rape.
I’ve privately mused along the same lines that I never understood the axiological grounds for justifying communal propriety to individual’s property on the grounds of need (Shoeing the hungry, feeding the naked, et al), but somehow my biological and thus secularly-humanistically acceptable desire to stick my unit in a warm, wet, and attractive orifice gave me any less of a valid claim upon a woman’s body.
Because every man deserves unfettered access to food, clothing and pussy.
But Vox Day and co. more for ya. Vox:
It’s been particularly interesting to see how my friends who are single, non-feminist career girls are beginning to get very angry at their feminist forebears, as they begin to realize to their shock and horror that the mysogynistic neanderthals were telling them the truth all along. Men don’t give a damn about degrees, don’t care at all about a woman’s career and tend to see these things as a threat, not to themselves, but to the possibility of a romantic relationship.
The two key things that too many women fail to grasp with regards to relationships is that men simply don’t think like women, and that the sell-by date is about 32 when it comes to dating men your own age.
Because all men think the exact same way, and they all want a pretty little dumb thing who will stay quiet and isn’t interested in all that book-learnin’. His faithful readers have more tidbits of advice:
The answer is not a government program but by the Church teaching and preaching the truth and not running from it. A “materialist” answer (a government program or scheme) is not the answer but the Spiritual guidance from the Scriptures, from God—i.e. women are to be silent—and wear a veil in church.
Shut up, put on your veil, and all of Western society will be saved. Or something.
“The silence of women in the church” also means women are to be silent in politics as well. What goes for the metaphysical sphere goes for the physical sphere. No females are to be in politics nor vote.
Those who reject the Scriptures, reject the way of life. Sadly, it is the Churches that lead their followers onto the way of Death—and that is exactly what Western Society is doing—following the Way of Death.
This same commenter also complains that Islam is taking over the world. And clearly, Islam is evil — just look at the way they treat women! Oh wait.
The Straw Feminists is the argument we attack? no their are plenty of ignorami (correct plural) out there to get all the batting practice I need, thank you much. The key argument I make beyond the basica idiocy of the ideas is exactly this: Feminists will realize after years of militant gender norming that nobody wants them, and will die (if not soon) alone.
Feminists: You’re all gonna DIE!
Any ideas on actual good sites for mail order brides? Seriously. There are many out there, but it is very hard to tell the difference between a legitimate bride store and a scam. There is travel, but that is more dangerous (if fun) and isn’t always possible. Just curious:) (oh, I would have emailed, but that doesn’t seem to show up anymore or am I missing something?) I would love a nice China girl for Christmas… keep the two front teeth, ha.
Now this makes a lot of sense to me, and definitely gives me a better idea as to who these commenters are.
I’ll get sexually interested when children are in the plan, not until, and I’m stubborn, ha! I’m looking for a woman to make a family with, not just a typical easy over girl. I’ve only been able to find the easy overs so far, meaning, three dates and they think sex is fine as long as they don’t get pregnant and you don’t ask them to cook or clean or something so blase’ and in fact think something is wrong if you aren’t pumping them by the third date.
Yeah, I can’t stand those uppity bitches who won’t cook and clean for you by the third date. Cute.