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Red-Blooded Americans “Assaulted” by Dancing Gay Dude on TV

In the Wall Street Journal, Peggy Noonan contemplates the “decline in American optimism,” as evidenced by polls saying that 55% of Americans believe the country to be on the “wrong track,” and 66% don’t think life will be better for their children than it has been for them. Now, Noonan is not one to go with those boring old reasonable causes for pessimism everyone is talking about, like the fact that lots of us are unemployed, and uninsured, and people are losing their houses, and we’re at war and have been for a really long time, and so on and so forth and oh God let’s not list all the reasons right here. Oh, no! These, to Noonan, are mere distractions! She goes directly to the real reason: perhaps it is all because we are so upset about that Adam Lambert kissing a boy on the teevee, hmmmmm?

This was behind the resentment at the Adam Lambert incident on ABC in November. The compromise [whereby all GLBT people and non-conservatives apparently agreed to move to New York where Peggy Noonan and her friends will never see or hear from them ever again? You can read the whole article, but it seriously makes no more sense than that and this may in fact be what she is literally saying – Ed.] was breached. It was a broadcast network, it was prime time, it was the American Music Awards featuring singers your 11-year-old wants to see, and your 8-year-old. And Mr. Lambert came on… People were offended, and they complained. Mr. Lambert seemed surprised and puzzled. With an idiot’s logic that was nonetheless logic, he suggested he was the focus of bigotry: They let women act perverse on TV all the time, so why can’t a gay man do it? Fifteen hundred callers didn’t see it as he did and complained to ABC, which was negligent but in the end responsive: They changed the West Coast feed and apparently kept Mr. Lambert off “Good Morning America.”

Mr. Lambert’s act left viewers feeling not just offended but assaulted. Again, “we don’t care what you do in New York,” but don’t include us in it, don’t bring it into our homes. Our children are here… increasingly people feel at the mercy of the Adam Lamberts, who of course view themselves, when criticized, as victims of prudery and closed-mindedness. America is not prudish or closed-minded, it is exhausted. It cannot be exaggerated, how much Americans feel besieged by the culture of their own country, and to what lengths they have to go to protect their children from it.

Yes. A gay man kissed a man. And he did some sexy Gaga or Britney-worthy dance moves on television. Also, sang a song. And you, Noonan, suggested this was an “assault,” especially on The Children, who must never ever see this happen, and used the phrase – willfully, consciously, seemingly completely unaware that you might just have set yourself up by using the phrase – “idiot’s logic” to suggest that this reaction miiiiiight be a little bit bigoted. While suggesting that this – Adam Lambert, that is – is actually what is Wrong With America.

I. Just. No words.


26 thoughts on Red-Blooded Americans “Assaulted” by Dancing Gay Dude on TV

  1. Yes. A gay man kissed a man. And he did some sexy Gaga or Britney-worthy dance moves on television. Also, sang a song.

    Also, dragged a woman across the stage by the leg as part of his “act.”

    He’s an asshole.

  2. I’m not a huge Adam Lambert fan? But I think the contention that he is Corrupting The Children And Wrecking America is fairly absurd whether or not you are a huge Adam Lambert fan. So.

  3. Makes me wish I were queer so that I, too, could have the power to magically control the tv sets of the American public and inflict my own tastes upon their poor, ignorant-of-the-existence-of-gay-men eyes! They’ll have to sit on their couches, helpless as I force them to watch my sexy dance moves! The LGBT army triumphs again!

    Wait, you’re saying Americans actually have control over their own tv sets? They even have their own magic wands to change the channel if they don’t want to see what’s being shown? You lie.

  4. I have two boys — 7 and 12 — and I get irritated about someone like Peggy Noonan dictacting what should horrify my sensibilities as a mother. My children saw the show that night.

    But — still not an Adam Lambert fan. Eh.

  5. It amazes me that none of the people doing the whole “Won’t somebody think of the children!” act (and I’m fairly sure it is an act) completely ignore that dragging-people-around-on-the-floor incident, and yet they’re up in arms about minority sexuality that doesn’t really hurt anybody. Because, you know, it’s totaly cool with them if violence is trivialised, but kissing is icky.

    Oh no, wait, I don’t mean ‘amazes me’, I mean ‘really makes me want to smash stuff’.

  6. The leg-dragging thing is a legitimate bit of choreography. I don’t like it, but you see it on Dancing with the Stars and in the Olympics. Looks uncomfortable, but then being lifted over a man’s head doesn’t look comfortable either.

    The mimed oral sex was a bit much for broadcast TV, but the kiss? that was HOT.

    And I am an Adam fan. I think he’s cute and sexy and innovative in an industry that has been giving us extruded pop product for too long.

    A Peggy Noonan fan? Not so much. I was with her right up until the culture war stuff. I worry my kids won’t have as good future as I do. But you know what? Tain’t gonna be gay kissage on TV that makes it bad. I think America is on the wrong track, one that leads to factionalism, tribalism and a Disunited States and shooting at people who don’t look like you.

  7. Yes or no: Have we become a more vulgar country? Are we coarser than, say, 50 years ago?

    Obviously, if this is true, it is the fault of gays and other people to whom the Right can’t be civil. If they would stay locked up in their homes, the public sphere could stay all bubbles and sunshine. By existing in public, they are forcing nice people to insult them and debate their existence in rude terms!

  8. “It cannot be exaggerated, how much Americans feel besieged by the culture of their own country, and to what lengths they have to go to protect their children from it.”

    She’s right about that, but not in the way she thinks.

  9. Honestly, I feel like people who have a problem with this are just uncomfortable because they haven’t taken the time to talk to their kids about sex. (Hence the whole “protecting” bit.)

    That, and can’t you just imagine the conversation?

    “So little Jimmy, I disapprove of Adam Lambert because he kisses boys. That is wrong and unnatural. I don’t want you kissing boys. I will hate you if you are gay.”

  10. I am sick to death of everything being hypersexualized. I don’t care about the gender or sexual orientaion of the people doing it. I am sick of it.

  11. Men kissing men!? That’s disgusting! I’m turning on some wholesome television for the children: Oh look MTV! A rapper is pouring honey on a woman in a bikini and licking it off her, and it’s only 4pm!

  12. Do those people being ‘besieged by the culture of their own country’ think that the other people, who of course view themselves as victims of prudery and closed-mindedness (I would, too…) are not Americans as well?

  13. “… the culture of their own country.”

    Meaning- not something that’s cooked up in a room and forced upon them, but the social trends of most of the country.

    I don’t know how or why these people think that they can speak for everyone else, when clearly everyone else has different ideas about how they would like to conduct their lives than Ms. Noonan.

  14. @Phyrbyrd: If you read the article, you will learn that Those People are all in New York! A blackout zone where their deviant behavior can AND MUST be hidden from the entire rest of the country. Which Noonan may, in fact, be planning to push away from the entire rest of the country and out into the middle of the Atlantic ocean, and/or drop a gigantic glass dome on, so that its power to contaminate Real America is diminished even further.

  15. OMG, it’s so clear to me now! The Decline of Western Civilization is being brought about by *gasp* dudes kissing!
    I can’t believe we kept this under wraps for so long. What if Bin Laden hears about this? We’d be totally fucked! O, wait, didn’t Noonan just tell, like, EVERYONE?
    Aiding and comforting the enemy, clearly. I want to go on record as being the first guy to call for High Treason charges to be leveled against Ms. Noonan. (dibs!)
    I’m with kiki on this one. I don’t care who you’re screwing. It’s your business. Leave me the hell out of it. My own sex life is enough of a hassle, without having to worry about some Neo-Puritan freaking out every time the discussion turns to genitalia…
    Also, more of Janet Jackson’s boobs on network television is just what this country needs to get it’s groove back. I would watch. Just sayin’…

  16. (Slightly off-topic) One of the things Lambert said in his interview the next day was pretty much my favorite thing ever. The interviewer asked him if he could go back and change anything about the performance, would he?
    He said “Yeah. I’d sing it better.”
    Awesome.

  17. I’m a little tired of being overwhelmed with everyone else’s sexuality. So as a general rule, I don’t watch that crap.

    Actually, the heterosexuality, sexualization and unrealistic media messages about what’s beautiful are more pervasive and perhaps does indoctrinate to some extent. Perhaps more than a gay kiss.

    Bleck to it all – read a book. A nice love story about two women or something.

  18. Is there no issue to which Peggy Noonan’s reaction isn’t to tilt her head to one side and close her eyes halfway and ever-so-patiently ask for America to please use its indoor voice and stop tracking mud on the runner?

    Seriously, she was never my cup of tea, but she lost me forever when in response to the revelations about how we were torturing suspected terrorists, she said in all seriousness that the techniques should never have been made public and we should just let our boys get on with it, because “some of life has to be mysterious” and no good would come of letting the world know what our military was doing in our name.

    Yeah, you’re right, Peggy. Queers on TV or detainee abuse, it’s all just so unpleasant. I’ll close my eyes and let you transport me back to a simpler time when men were men, women were women, “gay” meant “happy” and the kidnapped European Muslims having the shit beaten out of them in the basement were cooperative and didn’t cause the souflĂ©es to fall with their screaming.

  19. “If you read the article, you will learn that Those People are all in New York! A blackout zone where their deviant behavior can AND MUST be hidden from the entire rest of the country.”

    It’s that part that really concerns me, given that Noonan is writing for a paper located in New York City, and in fact also lives in New York City. So when she talks about how those liberal types can do whatever they want in New York, but keep it out of other people’s homes, she’s seemingly ignorant of the fact that even that won’t save her – that she will continue to be “assaulted” by images that upset her.

  20. She totally lost me when, after describing how, you know, people might be depressed because they’ve lost their job, the economy is awful, etc. etc. etc. she dismisses this PERFECTLY RATIONAL argument by saying “But, you know, I don’t think that’s it”.

    Why?

    No explanation.

    Which is about all of what she gives for why Adam Lambert’s performance was singled out for being “wrong” and “unacceptable for TV” was not about his sexual orientation.

    Peggy Noonan, just because you say something is so does not make it to be the case.

  21. 1. I don’t really want to watch Adam Lambert make out with a dude on TV.

    2. I don’t really want to watch Madonna make out with Britney Spears on TV.

    3. I don’t really want to see Janet Jackson’s bare breast on TV.

    4. I don’t want to watch 50 Cent slap some unnamed and usually faceless woman’s ass on TV.

    5. I don’t want to watch Miley Cyrus climb up and down a stripper pole in get-’em-girls.

    But then, I’m a quasi-prude and think that some things are best left to the privacy of one’s bedroom/bathroom/kitchen counter/living room on the coffee table/back seat of a Camaro/back yard with a privacy fence. That said, that kiss was hot, and I find it hilarious (for all values of “hilarious” equal to “disgusting”) that mothers who swoon and clutch their pearls over such a display then pay hundreds of dollars and take their kids hundreds of miles to see Hannah Montana Does Dallas.

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