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Muslims are Nazis, kind of. Let’s declare war on them.

Total lack of historical knowledge, anyone?

Radical Islam, sometimes accurately called Islamo-fascism, has all the “advantages” the Nazis had in Germany in the 1930s. The Islamo-fascists find a Muslim population adrift, confused and humiliated by the dominance of foreign nations and cultures. They find a large, youthful population increasingly disdainful of their parents’ passive habits.

Just as the Nazis reached back to German mythology and the supposed Aryan origins of the German people, the radical Islamists reach back to the founding ideas and myths of their religious culture. And just like the Nazis, they claim to speak for authentic traditions while actually advancing expedient and radical innovations.

Now, wait a minute — weren’t the Nazis appealing to a sense of supposed tradition and rightful ownership of Germany, that Jewish and other non-Aryans couldn’t possibly have had? As far as I know, Nazis weren’t an immigrant group, they were quite the opposite. So… wouldn’t it follow that an immigrant group couldn’t really pull that card outside of their own country?

Well, we’ll just ignore that little problem and move right along, because, Nazis or not, these Muslims are really becoming an issue. Luckily, Tony Blankley has a solution : That’s right, it’s another WWII!

World War II was good, despite the millions of deaths, the limitations on daily lives, the encroachment on peacetime liberties and the arduousness of wartime life. The war was good because the sacrifice was for a noble cause, for the perpetuation of America and the American way of life.

The struggle against Islamist terrorism is an equally good war — and for the same reasons. We have just as great a responsibility to win our struggle against insurgent Islamist aggression as our parents and grandparents had to win World War II.


Wait a minute… how was WWII about America and the American way of life? I mean, sure, it involved America — let’s be honest, we were a pretty key player in the whole thing. But summing up the war as “about America” is a little short-sighted, no?

So how do we start this war on brown people?

Just as their generals and admirals made no compromise to the imperative of total victory on the battlefield, so British and American political leaders, courts and popular opinion let the requirements for victory define the powers of their government on the home front.
Prior to America’s entry into the war, Congress passed laws that, collectively, authorized President Franklin D. Roosevelt to instruct the FBI to investigate suspected subversive activity.

The Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938, the Smith Act of 1940 and the Voorhis Act of 1941 were the grounds for Roosevelt’s wartime domestic surveillance of American citizens whose political activity might lead them to serve the interests of opposing nations.

And we all know what comes after that:

During World War II, the country was faced with the prospect of large numbers of people — again identifiable by ethnicity, not conduct — who were real or potential enemies.

The logic of the Supreme Court’s opinion is applicable to the situation we face today. The court held that people ethnically connected to the war-makers are more likely to support them than are others — and our country at war has a right to protect itself from this presumed higher risk of danger.

This is true regardless of the personal innocence of particular individuals. The term we would use today is “ethnic profiling,” and 200 years of American law and practice during wartime permits ethnic profiling for the common defense.

Forget that the Supreme Court opinion mentioned has been re-visted and deemed a big huge awful mistake. Forget that a former president made a formal and financial apology to the people affected by that big huge awful mistake. Let’s just jail the brown people.

And heck, while we’re at it, let’s stick liberals in there, too:

But back then, as now, we were a nation of newly arrived immigrants, threatened from abroad and bombarded with destructive ideologies. Then, it was communism and fascism. Today, it is multiculturalism, political correctness and, among the Muslim population, radical Islam.

Multiculturalism and political correctness are destructive forces on par with communism and fascism? Ok, I can see that. Like when I say, “You know, Tony, it’s a little politically incorrect to assert that all Arabs should be indefinitely detained because of their ethnicity,” that’s a danger akin to Stalin’s Soviet rule. Because hoping that people won’t be racist is as bad as authoritarian governments that kill tens of thousands of people and forcibly re-settled and detained millions. At least they got the forced detention thing right, eh Tony?


19 thoughts on Muslims are Nazis, kind of. Let’s declare war on them.

  1. Wow! You know, all of those dangerous ethnic Germans that were living in America in 1941. They were so identifiable by the color of their skin! And we were able to round them all up…

    oh, sorry, nevermind

  2. World War II was good, despite the millions of deaths, the limitations on daily lives, the encroachment on peacetime liberties and the arduousness of wartime life. The war was good because the sacrifice was for a noble cause, for the perpetuation of America and the American way of life.

    I know it’s become somewhat of a cliche to invoke Orwell to describe Bush, but I’m not the only one who read this and had chills of deja vu up my spine, right? Waging war to enforce social control and increase patriotism?

  3. Now, wait a minute — weren’t the Nazis appealing to a sense of supposed tradition and rightful ownership of Germany, that Jewish and other non-Aryans couldn’t possibly have had? As far as I know, Nazis weren’t an immigrant group, they were quite the opposite. So… wouldn’t it follow that an immigrant group couldn’t really pull that card outside of their own country?

    I think you missed a significant point here. The analogy was not to Nazi sympathizers in the United States; it was to Nazis in Germany. The focus is on Muslims in predominantly Muslim countries. As far as Muslims in predominantly nonMuslim countries, the Islamofascist variety should be thought of as exiles rather than immigrants. The goal of most (but not all) of them is to recreate the society they came from, not the one they currently find sanctuary in.

  4. He’s making an analogy between Nazis in Germany and Muslims in European nations. Not Nazis in America, not Muslims in Muslim countries:

    Over the past 30 years, the Muslim population in Europe expanded rapidly from a few hundred thousand to more than 20 million. Muslims there and in the United States are arguing over their role in Western societies: Should they integrate, seclude themselves, or convert the West to Islam?
    Many Muslims in Europe are content to be law-abiding, culturally integrated citizens. But an increasing number feel some degree of alienation. Many are beginning to believe that they have a religious duty not to integrate.
    Radical Islam, sometimes accurately called Islamo-fascism, has all the “advantages” the Nazis had in Germany in the 1930s. The Islamo-fascists find a Muslim population adrift, confused and humiliated by the dominance of foreign nations and cultures. They find a large, youthful population increasingly disdainful of their parents’ passive habits.

  5. “The war was good because the sacrifice was for a noble cause, for the perpetuation of America and the American way of life. ”

    YAWN, another far-right US nut with his head stuck up his American butt…

    So what was the British Empire (including us here in Australia) doing from 1939 to 41? Fighting for the American way of life? Why weren’t Americans fighting for it?

    World War 2 was about saving democracy. It was not about “the perpetuation of America” as de facto world government. Although that’s sort of how it worked out due to US money; the US saved an awful lot from sitting on the sidelines for two years 😉

  6. World War II was good, despite the millions of deaths, the limitations on daily lives, the encroachment on peacetime liberties and the arduousness of wartime life. The war was good because the sacrifice was for a noble cause, for the perpetuation of America and the American way of life.

    Gee, I thought WWII was good because it was about standing up and fighting an aggressive superpower that had no qualms about invading other people’s countries in order to get their resources.

    There is a certain parallel to America and Iraq, I admit, but perhaps not quite the one Blankley is grasping after…

  7. wouldn’t it follow that an immigrant group couldn’t really pull that card outside of their own country?

    Well, no; the linking idea of the “ummah”, the community of all Muslims worldwide, is that it transcends national boundaries. Someone aligning him or herself with “islamofascism” (not a term I find particularly helpful in debate) takes no account of being an “immigrant” because the goal is to create a world in which that term will have no meaning. The boundary that counts is between believer and non-believer, not between citizen of A and citizen of B.

  8. Come on people.. WWII was not about freedom and democracy, it was about who got to be top dog in the post-colonial era. It was not fought against fascism or nazism, it was fought against a rival geopolitical coalition that happened to be fascist. We did not fight against fascism elsewhere – we embraced it in many places, before, during, and especially after WWII.

  9. I’m going to have to agree with Dunc. This gets glossed over a lot in history classes, but WWI and WWII were not perfect “just wars”. A lot of people did oppose them, the entire nation was not behind it, and many people were jailed and imprisoned wrongly. I want people to stop this unilateral nobility of spirt b*llsh*t. War is war: it’s hateful, disturbing, evil, and harmful. Quit idealizing it!

  10. It was not fought against fascism or nazism, it was fought against a rival geopolitical coalition that happened to be fascist.

    Uh-huh. And England’s selfish concern for the fate of Poland was…?

  11. WWII was not about freedom and democracy, it was about who got to be top dog in the post-colonial era.

    Matter of perspective. If you were living in a country that was invaded and occupied by fascists (or at risk of being), fighting for your freedom and democracy against fascism was exactly what you were doing. From a more detached perspective, sure, it’s easier to see it as “geopolitical coalitions” moving chess pieces on a board, but at the sharp end there were real men and women fighting for what really immediately mattered to them.

  12. Uh-huh. And England’s selfish concern for the fate of Poland was…?

    Oh shit – these guys are serious! They’re not going to play the carve-up game the way we agreed – and they’re threatening our access to the Baltic ports!

    From a more detached perspective, sure, it’s easier to see it as “geopolitical coalitions” moving chess pieces on a board, but at the sharp end there were real men and women fighting for what really immediately mattered to them.

    Sure, it’s the reason why the soldiers and airmen fought, and it motivated civilian populations to support the war, but it’s not the reason the war was fought. They weren’t the people making the descisions. Kinda like many US servicemen are fighting in Iraq to avenge 9/11, but that’s not the reason why the US is in Iraq.

    If Germany and Italy had been willing to play the game by the established rules, they would’ve been welcome to annex Czechoslovakia and to kill or enslave as many people as they liked. Individual ant-fascists may have joined the resistance in much the same way as they joined the International Brigades in Spain, but that would’ve been it.

    If the war were really about stopping fascism, why didn’t we fight Franco? Why did we support fascist goverments in Portugal and Greece? Why did we incorporate the SS into our own intelligence organisations lock, stock and barrel? (Using “we” to refer to the governments of the US and Western Europe here).

  13. Actually, if you were living in a country that was invaded and occupied by fascists, you were fighting not to have your country invaded and occupied. Whether you were defending a democracy, or whether, like my grandfather in Greece, you were fighting on behalf of a fascist dictatorship, keeping the invaders out looked like a good idea. And with reason, since non-occupied fascist Greece was a much more pleasant place to live in than occupied Greece.

    Of course, at a broader level, the causes of the war were planted before it ever got to Greece.

  14. All good points, Dunc, but still from the same perspective. I’m not saying it’s in any way an invalid perspective, but it’s not the only one, and it doesn’t really do as an overall explanation of what WWII was “about”.

    On topic, I would very highly recommend The Battle for God by Karen Armstrong. It sheds more light on the history and recent development of Muslim (and Christian and Jewish) fundamentalism than anything else I’ve read on the topic.

  15. Oh shit – these guys are serious! They’re not going to play the carve-up game the way we agreed – and they’re threatening our access to the Baltic ports!

    So England declared war on Germany once it became clear that those same bastards stomping over Warsaw were eventually going to stomp over Dorset.

    The distinction between “selfish” defense and “altruistic” opposition to the Nazis escapes me,.

  16. The distinction is between opposition to fascism per-se, and opposition to one specific instance of fascism. For example, many of the people who came to oppose the Nazis were perfectly happy to support them as long as it was only Germans and Czechs on the sharp end (especially amongst the ruling classes). In my view, you can’t claim moral brownie points for opposing fascism only when it becomes a threat to you, especially not if you supported or condoned it previously. It’s the difference between morality and expediency.

    I fully acknowledge that that’s not necessarily how individuals saw it, but I think the systemic view is more useful. People don’t declare war – nations do. Nations are not moral actors, but they like to pretend to be.

    Oh, and it’s Great Britain , Britain, or the United Kingdom. England is only one part of the nation. As a Scot, that really gets my goat…

  17. Still don’t think it’s an either/or, at least not on the individual level. Certainly some of those fighting were doing so for their own freedom and the freedom of selected others, rather than in the service of a concept of ideal freedom per se. But the only way that’s incompatible with morality is if you make morality a single yes-or-no question, whereby if you don’t do everything then it counts for nothing. Only saints and hermits actually live like that.

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