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Thursday LOST Blogging: Whatever Happened, Happened

Spoilers below!

I’m just going to be upfront and say that with regards to last night’s episode, Whatever Happened, Happened, I was more than a little bit disappointed.  In fact, I’m feeling down right “meh” about the whole thing.  And I’m not alone.  Because for an episode that has the word “happened” twice in the title, virtually nothing happened.

But, here we go anyway.  Let’s see if we can make some lemonade.

RECAP

We open up with Jin coming to, and noticing that Mini-Ben is lying flat on the ground looking like he’s shot.  Being apparently a lot smarter than Sayid, Jin goes over and checks if Mini-Ben is still alive.  And he is!  So, instead of cursing the fact that he doesn’t still have his gun on him to finish up the job, Jin loads Mini-Ben into the Dharma van to find him some medical attention.

Meanwhile, the Flaming Dharma Van has been extinguished, and everyone is running around looking busy.  Horace is giving out directions and going on about how Sayid has escaped and is responsible for this, when Jack steps in and starts being all Jack, interrupting and asking annoying questions, like how Sayid could set a van on fire when he’s locked up.  Horace says, “he had help, dumbass.”  Meanwhile, Kate is making friends with Ben’s abusive dad, when Jin comes rolling up in the van and rolls out the shot kid.  Ben’s dad looks shocked and distraught, and Kate looks like “oh shit, one of us kicked Ben’s ass again, but now he’s only Mini-Ben which makes me feel a little bit bad about it.”

Then we get a Kate flashback.  Kate shows up at the door of Cassidy — you know, Sawyer’s old love interest who he knocked up, conned and left, and the woman who helped fugitive Kate find her mother — to apparently spill about how everything the Oceanic 6 said was a lie.  She tells Cassidy about Sawyer, and that he wanted their daughter Clementine taken care of, giving her a big wad of cash.  Cassidy is not impressed, convinced that Sawyer jumped out of the helicopter not to save Kate, but to get away from her, which has to do wonders for a person’s self esteem.  She also doesn’t buy that Aaron is Kate’s kid, for obvious reasons, and Kate issues a “denial” that actually confirms the suspicion.

Back on the island, we have Kate making trouble, wanting to know if Sayid shot Mini-Ben.  We have Sawyer and Horace trying to figure out who let Sayid out, and Sawyer figuring out that it was Mini-Ben by way of the fact that his dad no longer has the janitor’s keys, and Juliet furiously trying to save Mini-Ben’s life, despite the fact that she’s not a surgeon.  And we have Jack, Kate and Hurley held under house arrest by Miles, so that they won’t get in the way of Sawyer.

While under lockup, Miles and Hurley have conversations about time-travel, which are hilarious and in my opinion constitute the best part of the episode by far:

I just love how as they go back and forth, they take turns being right. And how their conversations mirror that of so many LOST fans.

Also, it’s really good finally seeing some people on this damn show being concerned with all the crazy shit that’s going on.

Anyway, Sawyer comes to get Jack to save Mini-Ben. Jack flat-out refuses, pointing out that he already saved that asshole’s life once, and look what happened. He also makes note that we know Ben has to live, so Jack doesn’t have to do anything to help out. Kate implores Jack to help anyway, and Jack again points out that he already not only saved Ben’s life once, he did it for Kate. Kate says that she liked the old Jack better, and Jack makes yet another good point, that Kate didn’t like the old him. At the same time, as we watch Jack slowly morph into Locke, and go from Man of Science to Man of Faith in both this scene and his next one with Juliet, I agree with Kate; even as I didn’t like the old Jack, I liked the old Jack better. I guess you don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone?

Kate decides that she’s going to help Juliet save Mini-Ben. She starts out by giving him some blood and talking down Ben’s abusive dad, and then has a conversation with Juliet where they realize that maybe the Others/Hostiles can help. After all, they have quite the affinity for Ben. Kate takes a Dharma van, loads Mini-Ben in the back, and takes off, obviously not concerned that if there are more problems, oops she’s not a doctor.

Another Kate flashback, and we finally see what happened to Kate after she left the docks on the night that Ben tried to convince them to go back. First, she takes Aaron to the grocery store to get a juice box, and there’s a whole pointless scene where she loses him. We start to wonder if this is actually what happened to Aaron, but no. When she finally finds him, it looks like he’s with Claire. That would make this whole scene have a point, and would have been really cool if she was there taking Aaron but then disappeared, but instead it’s just some woman who looks like a slightly older Claire, with too much makeup.

But the otherwise completely pointless incident, that as far as I’m aware happens to virtually every parent at some point, turns into a catalyst for Kate to give Aaron away. Being the blabbermouth that she is, she now goes and finds Claire’s mom, tells her the whole story, too, and gives Aaron to her. The only interesting thing about this is that we find out why Kate went back to the island, and it’s not for Sawyer, as we were led to believe — it’s to find Claire. (Who’s totally dead, Kate, sorry.)

On the island, Juliet confronts Jack as he steps out of the shower with a towel already on (seriously, do people really do this?). She asks “Why did you not help me, you asshole?” Jack says “Because I don’t want to! Also, I’m a Man of Faith, now.” She says “well why did you come back here, you asshole?” He says “to save you, weak little woman!” She says “WE DIDN’T NEED SAVING YOU STUPID ASSHOLE.” And Jack says “but it was my destiny! The island, it wanted me to! And don’t tell me what I can’t do!” And Juliet gets that disgusted look people always get when they talk to Locke, and leaves.

Sawyer heads out to help Kate get Mini-Ben to the Others, and rubs in her face how much he loves Juliet. That’s the only reason he’s saving Mini-Ben, by the way — because Juliet wants him to. Which kind of means that all of the bad stuff that happens as a result of Ben living is conveniently the fault of the women on the island. Unsurprising.

The Others circle Kate and Sawyer once they cross the line, and tell them that they’ve broken the truce. Sawyer says he knows, and to take them to Alpert. Once they find Alpert, he asks incredulously, “Is that Benjamin Linus???” Why yes, it is. Kate asks Alpert to save Mini-Ben. Alpert says he’d be happy to, but Ben will be “changed” if he does. Changed? Yup, he’ll always be an Other. Also, he won’t remember this, which is convenient for the plot hole of why Ben didn’t know who Sayid was. Kate agrees, and Alpert takes Mini-Ben. One of the other Others tries to stop Alpert, saying that he should check with Ellie and Charles, but Alpert doesn’t care. He takes Mini-Ben to the temple — the one that gave Danielle’s crew the sickness.

Then, back to the present. Adult Ben wakes up from the unconsciousness that Sun put him into with her boat oar, and Locke is sitting there waiting. He says “welcome back to the land of the living” and for some reason, Ben looks none too pleased to see him.

QUESTIONS

The reference to Ellie (Eloise Hawking) and Charles indicates a connection between the two, as has been suspected. But what? Brother and sister? Lovers? Are they leading the Others together? And if so, what is Alpert’s role within the Others hierarchy? I always got the idea that he was second in command, but now it’s unclear, both because it was suggested that Ellie and Charles were both above him, and because he said that he doesn’t answer to them.

What does the temple do? It seems to likely be the home of the smoke monster. It also seems to give people a strong loyalty to the island. And I’m guessing, it can also heal people. Is this where the healing power of the island “comes from”?

What exactly will Ben remember? Does he forget Sayid entirely? Even if so, why does he not seem to remember the other Losties? Do they end up leaving Dharma somehow, before Ben is back and well? Or does Ben actually remember all of it, and he’s just been playing along for the whole time? Also, it seems that my idea of Sayid being the one to turn Ben evil was actually more inadvertent than that. The break in trust and being shot seems to not be what turned him evil, but the healing process.

Also, why was Ben surprised to see Locke? Didn’t he know that Locke was going to come back from the dead? Is it just me who assumed this? Although, I guess even if you did have advance warning, it would still be unpleasant to wake up to the man you murdered.

Is Jack going to stop being Locke now that Locke is back around on the show? Is Kate going to start actively looking for Claire? What the hell happened to Daniel Faraday? Because I still really want to know this.

And what the hell is going on with next week’s episode? Something about how Ben came back to the island to be judged — seemingly by the smoke monster. Hopefully, some shit is going to go down.


23 thoughts on Thursday LOST Blogging: Whatever Happened, Happened

  1. I ended up here by random, but I am intrigued by this discussion of Lost on Feministe. I am not female, nor do I identify as a feminist, so I am sorry if I am crashing your party. But may I ask a question? Why are there so many fans of Lost on a feminist website?

    Lost does not appear to me to be an obviously feminist show. The plot arcs are anchored on three male characters: John, Jack, and Ben. The island itself has a certain creepy male mojo. The characters that have a deep connection to the power of the island – the chiefs, the priests, and the prophets, are all male: the leaders of the Others (Richard, Charles, and Ben); the men of vision (Locke, Walt, and Mr Eko); the reformed sceptic (Jack); the man of science (Daniel); the spirits (Jacob and Christian).

    Sure, there are kick-ass female characters. Ana Lucia and Rousseau were great, but they’re dead. Kate is strong but she usually tags along with Jack and/or Sawyer. Juliet has a great calm wisdom, but she is more of a healer than a leader. Sun is coming into her own, but is not yet a pivotal character.

    The island is a place that transcends time and even death, but even there the patriarchy seems firmly in place. So why does Feministe like Lost?

    Thanks,
    Ciaran

  2. I think it’s a testament to the scope and strength of Lost that every episode I love, you dislike, Cara, and every episode I dislike, you love. The show’s got something for everyone! 😀

    So yeah, I thought this was an awesome episode. First of all, I really enjoy dramatic irony, and the tension of knowing that Ben would be healed but waiting for it to be explained was delightful. I did roll my eyes at the convenient Jacob-healing-you-erases-your-memory-or-something! bit, but I’m hoping we get a better explanation of that next week. It does look like we’re going to see Richard and Mini-Ben together in the temple.

    Secondly, I was really happy that we FINALLY got some meaty, compelling Kate flashbacks. She hasn’t had a good flashback ep since she met Cassidy in the first place, but now she’s actually acknowledging hard truths and experiencing some emotional growth. Of course, it’s one step forward and two steps back, since after she tries to make things right with Ms. Littleton she goes back to using Jack-sex to bandaid her loneliness. That’s Kate for you, though. And I’m REALLY glad that she apparently came back for Claire rather than Sawyer. Another point of overdue maturity for you — oh hey, some things matter more than which of these two jerks you’re making out with.

    I never thought Ben expected Locke to come back to life. I think he believed Locke’s corpse was required for the Island to work its mystical mojo, but I honeslty wonder how much he knows about Jacob. Remember, Jacob reached out to Locke back in the first cabin visit, and Ben got REALLY jealous in a way that revealed some insecurities about that relationship, I think. He talks up his access to Jacob, but I doubt Jacob really ever took him in.

    In conclusion, Hurley and Miles FTW.

  3. Ciaran:

    “Feministe” does not like LOST. Cara, who blogs at Feministe, likes LOST. Jill, who also blogs at Feministe, also likes LOST. We have somewhere between 4-6 other bloggers on the site, depending on how they’re counted, and I don’t know how they feel about the show, though I feel like one of the may also be a viewer? I blog about it here because a certain segment of the audience seems to enjoy discussing LOST, and I enjoy writing about it. Like with every post here, it’s not necessarily for everyone.

    With that out of the way: sometimes, feminists like things that aren’t feminist. Sometimes, feminists also like things that could be potentially deemed anti-feminist. This is because we live in a patriarchy, and if we were to rule out every form of entertainment that was not explicitly feminist, specifically if we don’t have a lot of money or don’t live in places were there’s a lot of live entertainment, we would be live lives that are very unentertained indeed.

    Sometimes, we even have problems with the things that could be described as non-feminist or anti-feminist, but manage to a) look past them due to other enjoyment or b) critique them at the same time as enjoying. Sometimes we even talk about them while enjoying, like the time I brought up the “LOST vagina curse.”

    It is indeed entirely possible to enjoy something while recognizing the problematic nature from a feminist point of view. I learned how to do this, in fact, at a very early age when I found out that my favorite author, Jack Kerouac, was a major asshole and bigot on numerous levels, but didn’t find his writing any less appealing. Oh noes! How to handle loving something that is far from perfect?

    Well, it’s not always easy, but I pretty much had it sorted by the time I was 16.

    Now who wants to talk smoke monsters?

  4. Ciaran, I’ll give you my answer. I think it’s quite common for feminists to enjoy media with icky gender issues. I mean, I know tons of brilliant feminist fans of superhero comics. Personally, I love Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Nolan’s Batman movies, Firefly, Big Love, the Gormenghast novels, etc. etc. There are beautiful and compelling things about these works. There are also icky sexist issues. So I read them critically, and often antagonistically — I’m a fanfic writer and reader, for example, and like fic that writes against canon in some way, like slash or woman-focused work.

  5. I think it’s a testament to the scope and strength of Lost that every episode I love, you dislike, Cara, and every episode I dislike, you love. The show’s got something for everyone! 😀

    Haha, this is true. After thinking that last week’s episode was not totally awesome but still quite good, and seeing most people here at Feministe concur and act excited about the return to traditional format, I was really surprised to see fans on other Lost sites complaining that it totally sucked. So there you go.

    Oh, and I definitely agree WRT to being glad that Kate went back for Claire instead of Sawyer.

  6. My answer is simple. I prefer good shows to bad ones. Lost has a complex plot and well developed characters. Unlike many sit-coms that rely on juvenile boob jokes.

  7. Oh man! Oh freakin’ man!

    This episode was all right. It seemed to mostly consist of making some minor adjustments to move the pieces into place (mythology-wise), answering some questions that most people had already guessed the answer to (what Kate did with Aaron), and provide a really good template for some excellent acting in the process. Basically, it was a typical Kate episode.

    Next week, though. Oh freakin’ MAN! It’s a Ben episode, and we’re going to get three major, really interesting questions answered: what is up with the temple (okay, this probably won’t be answered completely, but more clues will be given), what happened when Ben tried to kill Penny, and what is going to happen between Locke & Ben now that they’re both back on the island. This is going to be the kind of episode that’s going to make the mythology-nerds scream at their televisions (hopefully in excitement).

    Also, as for Sawyer and Kate going for Richard Alpert, I think it makes a lot of sense. He’s the one who knows Sawyer’s secret, and when I go out looking for miraculous cures for the kids who get shot on my watch, I know that my first choice is to go to a guy who I know hasn’t aged a day in 30 years (and won’t age a day for the next 30 years).

    Here are the things I’m looking forward to finding out more about:

    Where did Faraday go? What is he doing?

    Where are Rose and Bernard? (I can go ahead and accept that the rest of the survivors died off in the flaming arrow attack, but I’m sure Rose and Bernard didn’t. I have a feeling we’ll find out they become Adam & Eve, the skeletons found in the cave in Season 1.)

  8. Oh wow! I also just found out that the next episode was written by Brian K. Vaughn (now there’s a man who can write a feminist story). I need to figure out how to time travel to next Wednesday.

  9. Ben didn’t remember Sayid because Sayid had not gone back in time yet. Going by the established continuity? Ben should just now remember the Losties and Sayid specifically, because Sayid has now gone back and time and committed the deed.

    Faraday did not remember meeting Desmond when they first met-then he told Desmond to go find him at the college in the Constant, only at the end of the Constant did Faraday have the understanding of stuff in his notebook, because he “got the memory” while on the island helping Desmond. This season, when the remaining islanders were bopping through time, Faraday gets Desmond to open the door and gives him a message-Desmond wakes up today with the memory of that moment-for the first time. This is why Ben has not remembered folks like Sawyer, Juliet, Jin, Miles or Sayid. Am I Miles or Hurley in this moment?! 🙂

  10. Thom, I had thought of that, but we’re not talking a Faraday-Desmond situation — we’re talking something that would’ve shaped Ben’s entire future. The fact that Faraday went and saw Desmond didn’t impact his life up to the point of “remembering” it. But Sayid shooting Ben clearly did.

    So yeah, I’ve thought that Ben might wake up and be like “that bastard shot me!” But if he does, I don’t know that it would make a lot of sense.

  11. Thom, I don’t think that’s how it works. It was established at the beginning of his term on the show that Faraday has suffered memory loss. That’s why in 2004 he didn’t remember Desmond visiting him ten years previous. And I suspect that Desmond always remembered the weird incident with Faraday knocking on the hatch door — it just never struck him as important, so it slipped his mind. And then came back in a dream later.

    Because, look, when Desmond has the dream about Daniel, it’s 2007. It’s been three years since he left the island. But when Daniel knocks on the hatch door, in Daniel-time it’s only been a few days since Desmond left. The events were in no way synchronous. As they keep saying, whatever happened happened. The past is not changing because of the time travel. Ben, Faraday, and Desmond didn’t remember these things because they forgot, not because they didn’t happen yet.

  12. As they keep saying, whatever happened happened. The past is not changing because of the time travel.

    A HA! NO, WAIT.

    Faraday did change that. Don’t you remember? He told Desmond that he was “special”? He indicated that Desmond does in fact have the ability to change things in the way that other people don’t. It seemed like in that case, Faraday did actually change the past. Because, remember, while it was only like a day on the island, it was three years later back in the real, normal, non-time traveling world. Desmond did actually seem to remember it as Faraday did it, but that’s because Desmond is “special” and I’m guessing because Faraday knew the rules well enough to “break” them.

    Ben, on the other hand, does not seem to be “special” in the same way as Desmond, and neither do any of the other characters who might have been able to “change” something.

    Does that make sense? It does to me, but I feel like Miles and Hurley at the moment 🙂

  13. Juliet: OMG halp I need a surgeon! I mean, I’m a surgeon, but only for the lady-parts. I need a spinal surgeon. Because this bleeding that I can’t find must be coming from…uh…his spine.

  14. Well, Faraday *thinks* that Desmond’s special and an exception. It’s definitely possible, since he came unhinged twice and lived to tell the tale. But I’m not taking Faraday’s babbling as gospel quite yet!

    A better example would be Locke, I guess. In 1954, he told Richard to come see him being born in 1956. So did he, at that moment, magically get the memory of being recruited by Mittelos Biosciences summer camp in the 70s? I’m thinking no, because we saw that flashback before Locke even started time-travelling. (I’m assuming he doesn’t really remember Richard visiting him when he was 5. He might recall that some man from a school came to see him, but I certainly can’t reliably call up, say, my preschool teacher’s face.)

  15. I really liked this episode. I guess a ton of stuff to move the plot/action forward didn’t really happen, but there were some great character moments and more insight into how the characters evolved (and are still evolving). To me, Lost is all about the characters. And smoke monster. And polar bears. 😉

    I’m thinking that Richard has never really been a second in command or primary leader of the Others. Instead, I think he is the voice/representative of the Island. I think he represents the Island’s interests and knowledge, and tries to ensure that the Others act in the way the Island wants (to protect the Island, find the right people to lead the Island’s inhabitants, and who knows what else) & enables the Others to get the most out of the Island’s abilities. After all, someone has to explain to the Others how the Island works (how the temple works, smoke monster, donkey wheel, etc). So, while he is part of the Others, he is primarily part of the Island.

    I think Christian may serve a similar role, but in a more metaphysical or ghostly way. Maybe Christian is meant to serve the same role of Richard, but to the Oceanic 815 survivors rather than the Others.

  16. Cara, Hot Tramp, & scootermom, thanks for your replies, and Cara for the explanation of your motivations for blogging about Lost. I understand that one’s preferred entertainment may not always conform to one’s ideology.

  17. “A better example would be Locke, I guess. In 1954, he told Richard to come see him being born in 1956. So did he, at that moment, magically get the memory of being recruited by Mittelos Biosciences summer camp in the 70s?”

    Nope, those were experiences that had already happened for Locke. The question here is…Did Richard seek him out because of the visit from Locke? Or would Richard have visited Lock whether or not John had walked out of the forest in the 50’s? That’s where it gets a bit confusing. Richard also told Locke to find Richard after the next jump-but that it would be before Richard and he would have ever met…did Richard tell him this because he remembered Locke coming to him in the 50’s?

    Oh the joys of time travel.

  18. This episode was awful. I’ve never seen an episode where I was thinking about other things I could be doing.

    Ciaran: this is actually one of the best places for LOST commentary. Due to the constant threat of trolls on feminist blogs, they are moderately heavily, meaning a-holes are not present. Where there is no hostility, great discussion abounds.

  19. Wow, there’s so much going on in this thread that I want to engage in, but I do still have a job (oops).

    Did Richard seek him out because of the visit from Locke? Or would Richard have visited Lock whether or not John had walked out of the forest in the 50’s?

    According to the way time travel works on LOST, Richard visits lil Locke b/c big Locke told him to. Period. There is no what if Locke hadn’t told him, because he always has. As far as Locke not remembering – I think it’s because he was very young and completely oblivious to time travel, same goes for Ben, IMO. As far as Richard, we don’t know enough about his lack of aging (whether it’s because he’s immortal & can’t age, or is just always moving through time) to know exactly how he connects the dots, but I think it’s safe to assume that he is much more aware of how time travel works to know what’s coming next and what’s happened before.

    In regards to Ben not remembering, like I said above, I don’t think Ben would have remembered any of this anyway. For one, he’s a kid, and the memories you have when you’re younger are often pieced together mostly from what your family and friends remember as well. Secondly, even though there are moments that you’ll always remember, faces and names might get all blurry and mixed up in your head, especially if it’s a particularly traumatic moment.

    Ok, that’s it for now… maybe I’ll have more time during lunch.

  20. Which kind of means that all of the bad stuff that happens as a result of Ben living is conveniently the fault of the women on the island. Unsurprising.

    Interesting. My immediate reaction was that Ben’s future is Jack’s “fault.” Had he tried to help Ben like everyone else, they wouldn’t have had to take Ben to Alpert. Sayid obviously bears a lot of responsibility too.

  21. My immediate reaction was that Ben’s future is Jack’s “fault.”

    Yes, I thought the point was the every single one of them is going to end up being to blame in some way. Still haven’t figured out Jin’s or Hurley’s role but:

    Sayid shot him, Jack refused to do the surgery, Juliet wasn’t able to save him herself, Kate came up w/the idea to bring him to the Others, Sawyer brought him to Richard (b/c, let’s face it, Kate wouldn’t have been able to do that, whereas Sawyer has a history w/Richard).

    Those are all clear ways that they play some part in making sweet lil Ben become evil big Ben. Perhaps something will happen that will cause Jin and Hurley to play some role in it as well. Or did something happen already that I can’t remember?

  22. Yes, I thought the point was the every single one of them is going to end up being to blame in some way. Still haven’t figured out Jin’s or Hurley’s role but:

    Sayid shot him, Jack refused to do the surgery, Juliet wasn’t able to save him herself, Kate came up w/the idea to bring him to the Others, Sawyer brought him to Richard (b/c, let’s face it, Kate wouldn’t have been able to do that, whereas Sawyer has a history w/Richard).

    Ah, great point. Though I’d just change Juliet’s role to coming up with the idea of taking him to the Others anyway, then Kate’s decision to actually execute the idea. But yeah, I hadn’t considered that if Jack had just done the surgery, he wouldn’t have had to go to the temple thing . . .

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