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Lactivists take to the streets

Really, what is the big deal about breastfeeding in public? Good for these “lactivists” — a public display of breastfeeding is just what we need. Babies need to eat, and breastmilk is whats best for them. People need to get over whatever sqeamishness or fears they have toward a lactating breast.

“We’re all told that breast-feeding is the best, healthiest thing you can do for your child,” said Lorig Charkoudian, 32, who started the Web site www.nurseatstarbucks.com after being asked to use the bathroom to nurse at her local Starbucks. “And then we’re made to feel ashamed to do it without being locked in our homes.”

Most of the nay-sayers, it seems, are people who will never have the option to breastfeed themselves, and will never be banished to the bathroom or put behind closed doors just because their child is hungry:

“It’s nothing against breast-feeding, it’s about exposing yourself for people who don’t want to see it,” said Scotty Stroup, the owner of a restaurant in Round Rock, Tex., where a nursing mother was refused service last fall.

Ah yes… “exposing yourself,” as if breastfeeding women were walking around en masse flashing innocent onlookers, like an episode of Moms Gone Wild. The whole American fear/intense sexualization of the breast is really odd. The fact that things like breastfeeding in public or even tanning topless are regulated and debated is pretty strange. Whats the big fuss?

According to the New York Times article, the shame surrounding public breastfeeding is having profoundly negative effects:

Whether to breast-feed in public, many nursing mothers say, is not simply a matter of being respectful of another person’s sensibilities. They cite research by the Food and Drug Administration showing that the degree of embarrassment a mother feels about breast-feeding plays a bigger role in determining whether she is likely to do so than household income, length of maternity leave or employment status.

The American Academy of Pediatrics urges women to feed their babies only breast milk for the first six months, and continue breast-feeding for at least an additional six months. If its recommendations were followed, the group estimates that Americans would save $3.6 billion in annual health care costs because breast-fed babies tend to require less medical care. But while more women are breast-feeding for the first few weeks, fewer than one-third are still nursing after six months. Some doctors attribute the decline to self-consciousness and the difficulties of finding spaces where nursing seems acceptable.

The final quote of the article, though, was the best:

“Are there people who are against breast-feeding?” asked Rich Flisher, 39, a neighborhood resident passing by the nurse-in. “I do prefer it if you’re discreet, but hey, I’m behind you. Go go go.”

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29 thoughts on Lactivists take to the streets

  1. On the one hand, the nurse-in was great. On the other hand, the news coverage gave the impression that a lot larger segment of the population disapproves of public nursning than, in my experience, actually does.

    (Yesterday, I wrote my bit about Barbara Walters complete with my contribution to public nursing.)

  2. In a total of, oh, about four years of breastfeeding, much of it in public, I’ve had some odd looks (mostly when the nurser was the thirty-pound toddler), but not one negative comment. What did most definitely interfere with public nursing was the amazing lack of places to sit down and do it (it is, of course, possible to nurse while walking, but I found it tiring). Considering that the frail, the young and the old have been known to shop, one wonders why so few stores seem to have chairs that one could occasionally sit down in.

  3. I’ve breastfed my baby for two years, including feeding her in public places, with remarkably few negative comments. Oddly, one of the few comments I got was while I was sitting waiting for the subway and feeding the baby. A woman walked by and said “that’s disgusting”. Given that we were sitting in a seat with arms that blocked the side view and behind a stroller that blocked the front view so that this person had to actually crain her neck and look down on us to see anything, I thought the comment said more about her than about my discretion or lack thereof. Of course, even if a woman pulls off her shirt and stands in the middle of Times Square to breastfeed, all passersby need to do if they feel uncomfortable is avert their eyes and they no longer have to see it, which should end their discomfort. Anyone who gets an extended look at a breastfeeding mother’s breast got it because they wanted to see the breast.

  4. My docotr recommened breastfeeding during flight because it keeps the baby calm and helps them adjust to the change in pressure.

  5. Women sure are uppity this week, what with the furore over at dailyKos and the lactivists. Yay for that!

    The older I get the more I think women should be able to go around topless as freely as men do, frankly. Breasts have been way over-sexualized, and I’d like to reclaim them as the simple mammaries they are. They’re not exclusively men’s play-toys, to be kept hidden until a guy says it’s ok to bring them out. They’re just breasts. But I’ll be way past the age of wanting to go topless before that change takes place.

  6. Echidne’s got some interesting stuff on this too, what with the anti-nipple censorship on tv.

    Geez. Are these people trying to make it seem like men actually do think with their dicks? If I were a man, I’d be insulted.

  7. The strongest effect of my most public breastfeeding has been on young women who found it energizing and liberating: they had never seen someone carry on an intellectual conversation in a public venue while breastfeeding before. On that particular occasion, I had not done it to energize or liberate, but rather because I had committed to teach a daylong workshop under the misapprehension that the convention in question had childcare, which it didn’t.

    It seems to me that the issue isn’t just whether seeing a flash of nipple is traumatizing to adults, but rather the extent to which mothers with small children are allowed to participate in public discourse.

  8. I nursed my daughter publicly and only got one nasty comment about it (a lot of rude looks, though). The woman asked me to go in the bathroom to feed her. My response? “Do you eat where you shit?” She left me alone after that.

  9. Geez. Are these people trying to make it seem like men actually do think with their dicks? If I were a man, I’d be insulted.

    Thanks on our behalf, Rana, but statistically speaking, they’re right. It’s depressing just how many men really do try to think with their dicks. For certain values of the word “think.”

    Not just men, either, and not just prudes. One of the reasons I stopped hangiing out in the Usenet group alt.support.childfree a few years back was the sheer idiocy of so many of the participants on the public breastfeeding issue.

  10. Seeing a boob used for feeding a child has no sexual effect on me, nor should it. I’m suprised anyone would find it to be either sexual or disgusting.

    Our dear friends recently had a child & we went to visit them in the hospital. I’m axious to see the kid, so I go right over to mom, see the baby, see her nipple, coo at the adorable baby. Neither one of us thinks anything of it.

    My partner did do a slightly embarassing thing. A few days later she’s giving nursing advise to Mom (she is a perinatal nurse) because the baby is having trouble latching on. She want to demonstrate a technique so she whips out her own boob to show mom what to do. Then she realized Dad was there too. He was more embaressed by it.

  11. Regarding the frequency of complaints about breastfeeding, based on annecdotal evidence, I think there’s a kind of blood-in-the-water phenomenon: You are more likely to be criticized if you act defensively as though someone might be offended and so hide behind something and use a blanket to cover than if you just do it. People who are uncertain or insecure feel they have more of a license to complain if you act as though they might have something to complain about.

  12. Wouldn’t it be great to know the locations of breast-feeding-friendly business? This is one subject among many that I wish there was more information about–that there were local forums in which women could share what they know about breast-feeding in their community.

    Which is not to say that -all- businesses shouldn’t be breast-feeding friendly, but just that having some sort of list of places with open minds and comfy chairs would be a good way to reward those businesses, and ideally push other businesses that direction.

    On another tangent, I actually am not ready for my breasts to be desexualized–or at least, it’s interesting to think about the complications of that move. I’d be interested in hearing more dialogue about this topic. While in principle I’m in favor of thinking of whole bodies as “sexual” in a healthy, earthy way, I also always find my breasts to be a site of both pleasure and power, and I enjoy having control over the ways I do or don’t display them. I feel like I’d loose something if they were totally neutral territory. Thoughts?

  13. Quantas Airlines: I was terrified of flying alone with an infant to Austrailia. But I knew I was in good hands when I boarded the Australian leg of the flight and the flight attendent said to me “I admire women who travel with their children.”

    It worked out great. I think it was the best flying experience I ever had travelling with kids.

  14. As someone who is about to embark on the breastfeeding of TWO infants at once, I imagine it will be hard for me to do it in a very public place “discreetly.” What does that mean, really? Do you eat discreetly, tucking in to your burger or bagel behind a napkin as you raise it to your lips– which, incidentally, can be used as a sexual thing, too.

    I really, really don’t get the anti-breastfeeding in public thing. That’s what they’re for!!! Yes, they’re also for sex– and I’m good with that too. But when you are feeding a baby, there is nothing sexual about it. It’s food, pure and simple. And to deny babies the incredible nutrition of breast milk because some neanderthal feels it’s disgusting is actually the disgusting thing to me. People need to get over themselves.

    I absolutely REFUSE to breastfeed in a toilet. I won’t even touch the door handles, you think I want my babies eating in there?! I almost dare someone to demand I feed in the toilet.

    Amazingly, Round Rock, TX is just north of Austin, which is one of the most liberal places in Texas, filled with computer geeks & college types (U of Texas & Dell right down the road.) I doubt that the patrons really had a problem with the woman– I imagine it was the manager’s issue.

    One more word: Therapy.

  15. Also, if you look at the nurseatstarbucks page and then at La Leche league, you find that Texas has laws protecting a mother’s right to breastfeed in public. I was really happy to see that my state will protect me. You want me to quit? Call the cops. I may even print out a copy of this bill to have in my diaper bag if anyone ever has the nerve to demand I leave.

    Find details about your state here:

  16. I blogged about this the other day, and as an older mom who breastfed all five of her children I’m glad to see women standing up for the ability to be able to feed their children without hiding.

    The health benefits to breastfeeding cannot be ignored, the saying when I was back in my “baby raising days” of Cows milk was made for calfs not human babies is still true today. Even though there are alot more baby formulas on the market today they do not and cannot replicate mothers milk.

    So for those of you doing this? I applaud you as you make the world a better place for our children.

  17. I admit to being entertained by contemplation of the possible designs for a “breastfeeding welcomed here” logo.

  18. when will this society get over its puritanical upbringing?! what amazes me is that the violently negative reactions to seeing a woman breastfeeding in public come without actually seeing a breast. have you ever seen a nipple in public because of breastfeeding? not me. everyone uses a blanket or something to cover up so it’s the mere thought of it that’s making people stupid.

    puritanical bull shit without a diaper.

  19. To be entirely fair, my second boy used to grab my T-shirt (I stopped using nursing tops when baby number one was pretty young; I get better coverage and easier access with a loose T-shirt draped around the breast leech) and push it up nearly to my neck, then back down – repeatedly, plus he liked to switch back and forth. So it’s possible someone could have seen my nipple, if that someone was staring at my chest and was using Nipple-Seeking Detection Rays. There is undoubtedly a word for people who spend an inordinate amount of time deliberately creating situations to be embarrassed in, and anyone who’d stare at the chest of a woman nursing in public should have it applied to them.

  20. This raises an interesting point. The dicsussions o the pros and cons of publiuc breastfeeding tend to run as though there were two participants: mom and spectator, when in fact there are three. Not only is there a third participant, the nursing child, but the child is likely to have the strongest opinions on the subject. The child is not limp during nursing, nor is the child passive. My daughter is strongly in favor of public nursing and wishes I would do a lot more of it.

  21. I breastfed my kids in the late 80s/early 90s. I think it’s gotten harder for women to breastfeed in public then it was then. Not only did I never hear a single negative complaint, I often got compliments (especially from elders) that I chose to feed my child that way. And my second child REFUSED to be covered by a blanket. He’d pull it off and wave it around, drawing even more attention.

    However, I think our culture has become much more overtly sexual since then, and baring a breast for any reason is seen as “disgusting”, intended function of the breast or not.

    There is NO WAY I’d feed any child in a bathroom, not with all the superbugs we have now, and the decline of handwashing.

  22. Altmama,
    On another tangent, I actually am not ready for my breasts to be desexualized–or at least, it’s interesting to think about the complications of that move. I’d be interested in hearing more dialogue about this topic. While in principle I’m in favor of thinking of whole bodies as “sexual” in a healthy, earthy way, I also always find my breasts to be a site of both pleasure and power, and I enjoy having control over the ways I do or don’t display them. I feel like I’d loose something if they were totally neutral territory. Thoughts?

    I don’t think that anyone is trying to BAN women from wearing tops, so I don’t see how allowing women to go topless would take away any of your control over the ways you do or don’t display them. All people are talking about giving you is an actual choice as to whether or not to display them which you don’t have now.

  23. Kathryn — Yes, the people who say “why don’t you just cover the baby’s head while breastfeeding assume that babies will put up with this. A 2-month-old, sure. A 9-month-old? Um….

  24. Well, heck, we adults like to socialize while eating, and so do youngsters. My younger boy also liked to yank on my shirts, kick and assure himself that his backup milk source was still there, which made for an athletic nursing experience.

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