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Before I Go

Someone wants to know:

Do we need feminism in America any more? At all?

Because I’m going to bed, my quick answer:

Yes.

Not only are there gender disparities in the United States that still need to be addressed, but as members of one of the most, if not the most, influential countries in the world our resources and power are needed to help existing movements close gaps in gender disparities in other global communities as well. Even presupposing that feminism no longer has work to do in the United States (and I would argue the opposite) it is clear that people around the world need our help and are asking for our help. Further, due to the lack of education in the U.S. about dire global issues, feminists and other activist social groups have much to do to raise the knowledge bar for other Americans in order to raise the necessary funds and hands to do this work around the world.

More detailed answers are appreciated in the comments below. Let’s educate.

Carnival of Feminists Part 4

Is up over at Happy Feminist. And it’s a good one, do check it out! Many of my favorite posts from the past weeks are up — and thanks to the Happy Feminist for hosting, and for including a Feministe post.

The next carnival will be at Scribblingwoman. Send submissions to jones AT unbsj DOT ca by December 17th.

When Feminists and Libertarians Chat

[19:38] BillINDC: your co-blogger has some fucking issues
[19:38] Feministe: eh?
[19:38] BillINDC: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/29/i-heart-anderson-cooper/
[19:38] Feministe: ha
[19:38] BillINDC: that albino dipshit?
[19:39] Feministe: partisan
[19:39] BillINDC: no, not really. I just cant stand the dude because he says “thankyouverramuuuuuch”
[19:39] BillINDC: sort of like Elvis. And it drives me fucking nuts.
[19:39] Feministe: man, i haven’t had cable news for so long i had no idea who he was
[19:39] Feministe: i had to check and i only sort of recognized him
[19:40] BillINDC: well, let’s just say I think you need to have a sit-down with Jill and assess her sanity. Bill hemmer? Maybe. Anderson COOPER?
[19:40] BillINDC: jesus
[19:40] Feministe: dude, i have a thing for keith olbermann
[19:40] BillINDC: oh fuck all
[19:40] Feministe: hott
[19:40] Feministe: his show is totally a tv version of a blog
[19:41] Feministe: see, we’re both fucked up
[19:41] BillINDC: you deserve each other
[19:41] BillINDC: nevermind
[19:43] Feministe: i’m posting this
[19:43] BillINDC: heh
[19:44] BillINDC: which part? because I meant that news anchor judgment in a totally detached , WAY STRAIGHT MANLY WAY

Possibly the Most Disgusting Thing I’ve Ever Read

This came up in the comments section a few posts down, and I thought I’d put it up for everyone to see:

I have to confess that I don’t understand this ceaseless quest for victimhood. Being raped doesn’t confer some mystical moral superiority on a woman, it just makes her a victim. And unfortunately, in all too many cases, it just makes her a stupid one.

I’m just curious what basis the moral relativists have for condemning rape in the first place. If I deem the slaking of my desire for lust – or violence, if you prefer that theory of rape – to be an intrinsic good, who are you to condemn it? Certainly, one could argue that it is a violation of private property rights, but then, what of those moral relativists who reject the notion of private property. If all property is held in common, then how can a woman object if I decide to make use of that which belongs to me?

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Suicide Girls Quit The Site, Charging Exploitation and Male-Domination

This is interesting:

A group of angry ex-models is bashing the SuicideGirls alt-porn empire, saying its embrace of the tattoo and nipple-ring set hides a world of exploitation and male domination.

The women are spreading their allegations through the blogosphere, raising the hackles of the SuicideGirls company, which has until now enjoyed a reputation as porn even feminists can love. It offers burlesque tours, clothes and DVDs in addition to a sprawling online library of naked punk and goth women.

“The recent accusations are a little upsetting,” said “Missy,” the co-founder of SuicideGirls. “We think they’re all pretty much unfounded.”

According to the site’s critics, about 30 SuicideGirls.com models have quit in disgust over the past few weeks. Despite their resignations, their photos remain on the site, minus their ubiquitous SuicideGirls online journals.

I wonder if the company is still making money off of the pictures and whether the models agreed to let the pictures stay. Or if, at some point, they signed away the rights to their images.

Still, the woman-friendly reputation of SuicideGirls is being battered. Since its creation in 2001, media outlets have lauded the company’s focus on goth, indie and punk models who aren’t necessarily big-busted and bikini-waxed. “It wasn’t the first alt-porn site to come along, but it was certainly the most widely promoted and probably the most influential,” said John d’Addario, editor of the porn blog Fleshbot.

The message of business-side female empowerment hasn’t hurt either. “The perception that women had an important/equal role in the administration of the site probably made it more attractive to some people who might not have visited a porn site otherwise,” d’Addario said.

SuicideGirls has always been billed as porn even feminists could love. Personally, I have always been skeptical. I’ve seen young women who are not models sign up as members — their profiles indicate that they are tittilated by the idea of male attraction by association with the site brand and models.

In any case, the idea that the majority of these models are in any way an alternative to the norm is disingenuous. Throwing a tattoo on a sexpot makes… a tattooed sexpot. Most of the women featured on the site are traditionally attractive. A labret does not alt.porn make.

Two of the ex-models say they were attracted by the empowerment message, too. “I liked that you had a journal and voice, you had the chance to make your own (photo) sets,” said “Dia,” a 30-year-old former model who doesn’t wish to be identified because she now works outside the porn business in Northern California.

“I looked forward to making great art,” added Dia, who has unsuccessfully tried to get her photos off the site.

She and other models say that contrary to its image as a women-run operation, SuicideGirls is actually controlled by a man — co-founder Sean Suhl. They accuse him of treating women poorly and failing to pay them enough. (According to the site’s FAQ, SuicideGirls models get paid $300 per photo set.)

“The only reasons I’m doing this and I’m sticking my neck out is that people, especially females who are 18 years old and want to be a SuicideGirl, need to understand who they’re representing,” said 28-year-old ex-model Jennifer Caravella of San Francisco, who said she goes by the name “Sicily.” “It’s certainly not a group of women who are working together for this.”

I already knew that it was run by a man, but really, his gender is beyond the point. What matters is a) whether the company is as female-friendly as they purport to be, and b) whether the models are treated ethically.
For more detailed accounts, see two anti-SG blogs here and here.

And for what it’s worth, I believe SG is also in partnership with Playboy, a corporation not exactly known for it’s woman-friendly atmosphere. *

I’m curious what their specific charges are, more specific than the ones above. If they have not been paid their full $300 per shoot, there’s a problem. If the company is raking in money off of their pictures and the women want more money per set, I think that’s fair game. If there is proof of sexual harassment or some other something that constitutes “treating women poorly,” there is certainly a reason to expose the site for what it (potentially) is.

I don’t get off on exploitation.

* I’m not necessarily in ideological cahoots with the thoughts in this article, but do note Hugh Hefner’s response to marketing his products to teen girls and his curfew for the bunnies. Classy shit, you smarmy old man.

via Varkentine

UPDATE Hugo has more:

…this is where I find the likes of Larry Flynt (publisher of Hustler) to be less offensive than men like Sean Suhl of Suicide Girls. Flynt doesn’t pretend he’s empowering his models; he embraces raunch with a bracingly candid enthusiasm that even his detractors often find to be — almost — winsome. Fellas like Suhl are out to make money off women’s bodies in much the same way Flynt is, but in Suhl’s case, greed seems hidden behind the rhetoric of edginess, alternative culture, and a rather shallow feminism.

Word.

I’m Not Your Sister

I wouldn’t say I’m better than you, Andrea, but since you did…

While we’re on the subject, one of her commenters says:

I’ve been following the argument with amusement. Any fool can see that you weren’t targeting her son. She hadn’t even made an appearance in the thread at that point. It was pure ego on her part to think that you even knew she was another blogger at the site

That’s funny. When Andrea and I get into a shit-slinging match on another blog, in which I dropped out of the argument to let Andrea play by her lonesome (as usual), and the subject of my biracial son comes into play as a core reason why I pay very close attention to race issues, Andrea decides to bring it up again by calling Ethan “quadriracial” and making fun of my concern for race-based discrimination that I have witnessed and detailed at length.

In detail she says:

Oh dear—you have attacked the delicate, sensitive female feminists at Feministe. Expect a puff-alanche of snippy comments from Proud Singlemom Womyn™ demanding Culturally Diverse communities in which they can safely raise their quadriracial children in a non-violent, non-misogynistic, secular atmosphere where they won’t have to hear about icky male phallic things like War!, Jesus, and rednecks in pickup trucks.

Womyn? Really? Don’t get all dumb on me, Andrea, when I think your bitchiness is halfway rooted in intelligence. I don’t know how anyone can bag on culturally diverse communities that see the critical value in her vile statements as much as they value all the vileness of mine. No, she didn’t know nothin’ ’bout me and mine. No.

Smarmy is as smarmy does. But yeah, you attack kids, you’re fucked up — that’s authentic right-wing hate right there, baby.

She’s only giving me traffic with her half-hearted defense of whatever it is she’s defending, so thanks for the link, hon.