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On Being Jewish and White

I’ve written before on how angry I was when fellow progressives began to inform me that while some Jews consider themselves white, it’s only because they’ve assimilated into white culture. They never explained what white-looking Jews actually are, if not white, but the message was always clear: if we Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews think we’re white, well, it’s just because we wanted some of that tasty privilege so badly that we suppressed our real identity to get it. I’d known, of course, that many white extremists still considered Jewishness a race, but hearing such comments come from leftists surprised and upset me for a couple of reasons: 1) they were presuming to know more about a Jew’s identity than a Jew would, and 2) those who were people of color were surely familiar with the frustration at having others dictate how they should define themselves.

It was also one of the strongest indicators I got that the Left’s mistrust of Jews goes much deeper than the Palestine/Israel debate.

Before I go on, I should probably explain how the whiteness of American Ashkenazim came into question in the first place. European ethnicities weren’t separated into different races until the early 20th century, when massive immigration (of which my great-grandparents, with two-year-old grandmother in tow, were a part) to the United States caused a scare among the upper classes. Eugenicists like Madison Grant and Charles B. Davenport launched a deliberate campaign to equate class with race, conducting “research” to prove that southern and eastern Europeans, being genetically inferior to northwestern Europeans, were incapable of upward mobility. Jews, Italians, Irish, and other groups who had previously been white – albiet lower class – suddenly found themselves designated as races separate from the “Nordic” upper class.

After World War II, though, a few things shifted in Jews’ favor. More Jews joined the middle class while the idea of multiple European races began to fall out of fashion (although as Karen Brodkin, author of How Jews Became White Folks, points out, it’s impossible to tell which development influenced the other: “Did Jews and other Euro-ethnics become white because they became middle-class?… Or did being incorporated into an expanded version of whiteness open up the economic doors to middle-class status?”) The GI Bill served as Affirmative Action for previously oppressed white groups (while keeping the doors shut to people of color), giving them the means to attend college in greater numbers and enjoy the economic boom. Many Jewish families, terrified by the execution of the Rosenbergs, began to downplay their ethnic identity to avoid harassment and possible arrest. And by the time I was born, anyone from Europe – or, at least, anyone from Europe who looked the part – was white. Easy as pie.

I often hear that Jews “in general” have swarthy or olive skin, but that doesn’t apply to me. I look white. I am white. It’s not what I try to be, or long to be – it’s simply what I am. Whiteness defines my culture, my self-perception, my privilege, and my daily interactions; I’ve never known myself as anything else. My Jewishness has never been at odds with my whiteness. That’s why it’s so frustrating when my race is referred to as a conscious effort rather than a simple state of being. Does my entire culture and identity really mean that little?

To be clear, I know that not all Ashkenazim – especially older generations – identify as white. I’m speaking only for myself. The question of how members of the same ethnic group can identify as different races could open up some very useful discussions on what separates whiteness from nonwhiteness, the ways that race is constructed, and the many shifting, overlapping, and distinct cultures that are lumped together as white culture (that is, when white people recognize that we have culture). However, since I lack the expertise to do so myself, I’m sticking to my own perspective.

Here’s what’s really toxic about the idea that an Ashkenazi like me isn’t what she says she is: it paints us as infiltrators or spies, sneaking into white society so that we can get our hands on what doesn’t belong to us. From a white point of view, this turns us into something threatening, a presence that has to be identified and dealt with. (I still remember the anecdote a Jewish boyfriend’s mother told me: when they moved, their new neighbor felt it necessary to warn them that the family down the block was Jewish. “Well, we’ll fit right in,” my boyfriend’s mother responded. The neighbor didn’t speak to them again.) From a POC perspective, we suddenly seem like traitors or sellouts. Either way, it makes us seem as if we’re playing a permanent game of dress-up – never belonging, always infringing. You don’t need to be a white supremacist to fall prey to this mode of thinking.

Furthermore, the idea that Jews can’t be white – and its logical conclusion that Jewishness is its own race – completely erases Jews of color. How do you tell a Moroccan or Ethiopian Jew that Jewishness is a race? Which aspect of themselves are they expected to discard? Are people who deny the whiteness of Jews (and it’s always just “Jews” – they never specify Ashkenazim) even aware that Jews of color exist? How can we effectively confront white privilege within Jewish communities when potential allies dismiss that whiteness?

Shouldn’t each individual be allowed to define her/himself? Shouldn’t we trust each person to determine how their own identity is put together? Can you see why it’s so maddening to hear my identity dismissed as something I “consider myself” to be?

For another perspective on this issue, see Matthew Egan’s excellent essay “The Pintele Yid.”

Keep comments on-topic, please.

EDIT: Fixed a very embarrassing typo.  “European” was supposed to say “Eastern European.”


68 thoughts on On Being Jewish and White

  1. That was really interesting. I am not going to lie. When I was younger, I actually thought that all Jews WERE white, and then in my teenaged years I was surprised to meet brown-skinned and black Jews (I am Muslim/South Asian so please pardon my ignorance).

    some of my liberal Jewish friends who have white skin, have told me that they don’t consider themselves white, either, like the friend you mentioned above in the blog.

    the Jewish identity in this country seems really complex, because many American Jews are white and look white and can easily pass as white, but don’t celebrate Christmas or Easter or any “white Christian” holidays.

    I have always believed that Jewish Americans are quite similar to the Indian Muslim identity in India, which is mostly Hindu, and Indian Muslims have had to struggle against religious discrimination and bigotry, even though they share the same skin colour as Hindus (for the most part anyway).

    I look forward to reading more about the Jewish American experience.

  2. How do you tell a Moroccan or Ethiopian Jew that Jewishness is a race? Which aspect of themselves are they expected to discard?
    I have always thought of people that are Jewish as white. In fact it came as a huge shock to me find out that there was such a thing as a black Jew. It taught me a lesson about making assumptions about groups of people. I think that it should be up to the individual to decide which group that they choose to identify with. To do otherwise is tell others how to live their lives. I will however state that though it will not happen in my lifetime, hopefully the day will come when we will no longer feel the need to think of ourselves as belonging to certain groups. I dream of the day when humanity is what matter most in ones identity.

  3. @ Renee:

    yeah me too, I was shocked when I found out that there were black Jews, too! lol.

    but in all seriousness, Jews and Hindus are like almost racial identities. I am Indian and 100% of Hindus I have known in my life are Indian or Sri Lankan. I have never met a non-Indian Hindu.

    So, I fail to understand why people categorise Jews as a race, when that’s just wrong. On the other hand, I totally understand why Hindus would be categorized as a race.

  4. This is a very interesting read!

    I’m Ashkenazi as well, but I’m Israeli, so race gets very complicated here.

    We’re supposedly a single ethnocentric group, but when there are so many different groups within Ashkenaz and Mizrachi and Sephardi it kind ruins the whole “melting pot” thing.

  5. I don’t think I’ve come across leftists who insist that Jews aren’t white. More often, that Jews are super-white. But then, since I identify as white and Jewish and as assimilated, perhaps that plays a role. Are there specific experiences you’ve had?

  6. Here in the UK, Jewishness is counted as a race in hate crime legislation, but this is in order to extend it to cover anti-Semitism.

    When it comes to historic oppression, anti-Semitism has been very similar to racism – ie the Nazis didn’t exactly skip families which had converted to Christianity – they saw the Jews as a race. Is the act of racialising groups actually a key part of oppression? Hmmm…

    However, as a Jewish woman, I certainly am white, no doubt about it. My father is Scottish, and I have freckles and very pale skin. I don’t think anyone has ever assumed I am Jewish, as happens with my mother’s side of the family. When I was in school, and we were learning about the Arab-Israeli conflict, my history teacher took a friend aside and started chatting to him, wrongly assuming he was Jewish because he ‘looked’ Jewish. I know these are slightly random observations, but there you go… if society treats your religion as a race, or at least ethnicity, does that make it one? Hmmm.

    @VELMA SABINA!!! – Um, because you’ve personally never met any Hindus who are not Indian or Sri Lankan doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Given that the post is specifically about the writer being annoyed at others trying to define her race/religion for her, think it might not be super-wise to do the same to others? At least wikipedia what you’re talking about first…

  7. I completely agree! Growing up Jewish in a non-Jewish world is sorta strange because you know that discrimination is a bad idea, but trying to convince your non-Jewish, white friends is difficult. Especially before the history curriculum gets to the Holocaust or anything remarkably like it.

    In being white, as that is what I am, I feel like if I fight for other people’s rights, I’ll get snears, people looking at me and saying “besides being a woman, what have you ever been discriminated against white girl?” And I think it’s more difficult for the white male Jew who wants to be active. No one will listen because he looks like the poster child for the ease of the white world.

    And what’s interesting is no matter what I try to tell myself, I identify as a Jew before I identify as an American, which only reinforces the idea that being Jewish is classified as a race or ethnicity.

  8. @Jess:

    I was talking about skin colour/Indian heritage with Hindus. I am perfectly well aware that there are “non-Indian” Hindus who HAPPEN to be of Indian descent in other countries like Guyana and Trinidad & Tobago. Like I said, I’m Indian and South Asian, and I have yet to meet a non-brown, non-Indian Hindu in my life.

    I have met white, black and brown Jews… white, black and brown Muslims… white, black amd brown Christians… but never any black or white Hindus. so I think it’s a paradox to slump Jews into race, but with Hindus, it’s a different matter. That is my opinion and if you want to argue with me, thats fine.

    ok?

  9. Interesting post. I’m Sephardic, and I’ve had sort of a funny time determining my racial identity because of that. I’m clearly white — my dad is Irish, and the fact that I look Jewish doesn’t interfere with the fact I’m read as white and have white privilege. I’m a middle class US American, but my culture is different from white, Christian, US American culture, and even distinguishable from Ashkenazi culture, I think.

    I don’t know. It’s confusing.

  10. Interesting. I haven’t met any non-white Jewish people personally so I just think of Jewish people as other white people, with some beliefs. Like Christians.
    I do think it is important for me to keep a place in my mind to remember that Jews were treated as a race once and killed because of it.

  11. I’m Jewish, well half biologically, but culturally and religiously I was raised as a Jew. I strongly resemble the Jewish side of my family, with a “swarthy” complexion and dark curly hair. When I was growing up in a New England suburb that got Jewish holidays off from school due to the large Jewish population, I didn’t really second-guess the fact that I was white, even though once in a while kids would ask me if I was a “mix” (biracial).

    Recently, my sister, who is much fairer than me, surprised me by saying that when she was little she didn’t think I or my Jewish grandparents were exactly… white. It’s the box that I check most often for census information but it’s not the whole story. I identify with parts of white culture, but not all of it. Like, for the last 7 years I’ve lived in the Pacific Northwest, in a town that has an extremely white music/arts alternative subculture, and much of it I don’t relate with, on the grounds of homogeneity/ lack of cultural awareness, and just generally annoying ‘twee-ness. White hipsters here seem like they live in a relative bubble of psuedo-self deprecating privilege and high-water pants… not to be a total hater.

  12. Race is not what we idenitfy ourselves as, but how we are identified by others. So, if you look white, you are white. If you look black, you are black. Race is nothing but how you look. Race is not something we pick, but how others identify us. I’m white, even though I’m also Arab, because that’s how people see me. I have never felt the same kind of shame for infiltration, but I can understand how it would occur.

  13. This is a very interesting post. I have often felt that being Jewish seems like an odd “in-between” position–not fully white, but not counting as an oppressed minority group either.

    I agree that the Jewish community needs to Ashkenazi identity. I identify as a sort of mixed Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jew because I have one Sephardic grandparent. My Ashkenazi grandparents have at times tried to steer me away from identifying with Sephardic heritage because I’m “mostly Ashkenazi.” (Ugh, I hate it when people try to reduce ethnic identity to a numbers game.) Growing up, I did know a few Jews of color from my Hebrew School, but all were multiracial and had one Ashkenazi parent. In the seventh grade, I read a book for school about Ethiopian Jews. It did surprise me to see that many of the same religious traditions were practiced in Ethiopia. I do think the Ashkenazi community needs to do a better job at recognizing the diversity within Jewishness from earlier ages.

    If anyone’s familiar with the author Walter Mosely, I’ve heard him speak and one of the interesting things he said was that he doesn’t consider Jews white. He has a Black father and a Jewish mother and he basically said that he doesn’t feel he has any “white” ancestry. Some Jews think they’re white, but (according to him) they’re wrong. That was just an interesting footnote to his speech, but it’s one of the rare times I’ve heard someone outside the main Ashkenazi community suggest that Jews aren’t white.

    Also, about “How Jews Became White Folks”: I agree with the book’s basic idea, but it kind of irritates me when some progressives act like it’s the definitive word on the subject. (“A Jewish woman wrote a book saying that Jews became white, so of course that must be fact.”) As this thread shows, there are still a lot of complicated issues surrounding this. I also have some issues with Brodkin’s approach to research, which often generalizes and can be downright sloppy at times. (I know this has an air of academic snobbery, but Brodkin is trying to present herself as an academic researcher.)

    These are really disjointed thoughts. Thanks for writing about this.

  14. @VELMA – sorry, my tone was out of order, probably shouldn’t post comments when I’m sick and grouchy – but, still, I’ve met (converted, admittedly) Hindus who are not of Indian origin.

  15. My mother is Jewish and my father is a WASP. I’ve considered myself religiously Agnostic and culturally/ethnically Jewish since I was 14. When questionnaires ask for race, I usually put “other” or “Jewish”. I don’t have a problem considering myself ethnically Jewish, but sometimes people don’t understand why I would describe myself as ethnically Jewish and religiously agnostic, but that’s their problem. I feel a real link with old-country Jews, Israel and the Zionists. They’re my people, my ancestors.

  16. isnt the Jewish “race” identity due to the fact that in order to be Jewish, your mother has to be Jewish, too? so in theory, if your mother wasn’t Jewish, you can’t be Jewish.

    I dont know, but that’s what I’ve heard.

  17. Shouldn’t each individual be allowed to define her/himself?

    Yes and no. When we talk about race as heritage and culture, then self-identification is very important. When, however, we talk about race as a social phenomenon, then what matters is the definition (or definitions) that other people project onto us. I can define myself as a Celtic American all I want, or as a member of the “Human Race,” but at the end of the day, I walk through the world as a white person. Period.

    Your experience is interesting to me, because I’ve often seen its opposite — pale-skinned Euro-American Jewish people claiming not to be white, and having that critiqued or dismissed.

  18. All these posts on Jewish identity are interesting!

    This is something I think about a lot. I am in some ways differently raced than my parents and definitely than my grandparents because I grew up raced “white” (even “white with funny hair and hey you’re a Jew that’s weird”, but definitively “white”) and my parents to some extent and certainly my grandparents grew up raced as “Jews.” all of my angst and learning about privilege slowly over time and the ease i am trying to learn to see as somewhat problematic is exactly what my grandparents moved here for — the chance for me to grow up somewhere and be able to do anything.

    I usually hear this argument the other way — not from other people to call Jews out as passers and fakers and frauds*, but from white Jews who are opining about what it is to be oppressed. Sometimes I hear this with a lot of grace — especially when it is people from older generations — and sometimes I have a hard time, like when it is any number of anecdotal and stereotypical white Jews complaining about something on their way to their professional careers. I find it hard when white Jews are willing to invoke this understanding of racism when it is thought it will help them somehow, or give them authority to speak about “other people of color,” but then there is no show of solidarity with people who are way more often raced as people of color.

    I am especially interested in the way this passing/whitification has combined with the refocusing of American Jewry on Israel — like, okay, now we’re going to work really hard to be white at home…and then feel like we have no cultural role here, and so we need one over there. *THIS IS NOT A THREAD WHERE I WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL’S LEGITIMACY.* But I wonder about the chronological overlap btw these improvements and the creation if Israel and what that combination has done to make this crisis of disidentification/assimilation/non-Jewish-identification that everyone in the Jewish mainstream here in the states is talking about.

    * I have been lucky, I admit it, in the ways that I have not been exposed to anything worse than a little of the ignorant-questioning kind of anti-Jewish thought.

  19. I think something important about whiteness – or race generally – is that as a construct it is necessarily in flux. There isn’t some rule that will always be followed; my shirt is always going to be green, but the Jew inside it may only occasionally be white, depending both on circumstances and on expression..

    I live in New York City, and as such, I think that I am basically universally perceived as white. However, I could probably defy that without leaving behind any element of Judaism: if I became Hasidic, with the full getup that entails, I think I would stop be perceived as white, and instead, become something different, othered.

    Meanwhile, if I went out of New York City and went to, I dunno, rural Nebraska, I think my Jewishness would be very othering, if not on sight, at least at the point where I self-identified or else, had my last name recognized.

  20. I should also point out that Ashkenazim are not the only white Jews. Just as there are Ashkenazim of color, there are white Sephardim and other distinct Jewish ethnic groups who are white, such as Romaniotes. There are also POC-identified Sephardim, of course, and the terms are still constantly transforming as euphemisms for the boundaries of race. This subject is a whole book in itself, which I have yet to find or see written!

    I am a white Jew, 3/4 Ashkenazi and 1/4 Sephardic in terms of geneaology, more Sephardic in terms of influence (all 3 Ashkenazi grandparents died by my teenage years), culturally secular more than anything. For a long time I had a hard time identifying as Jewish since I am religiously agnostic and care nothing for the Talmud, etc.

    The difference between race and ethnicity is important here, IMO. Religion, language, genealogy, nationality – even what holidays you celebrate – can be ethnic markers but don’t necessarily say anything about my identity in the context of racism. I can be an ethnic minority and still be white. I can be an ethnic minority within an ethnic minority and still be white. Even more to the point, I can participate in racism.

    One thing I think all white Jews might all be able to agree on is that we get a lot of mixed messages. There will always be people, of color and otherwise, telling us we are not white. There will be others saying that in order to fight racism we must do it as white people – read as “normal” white people. I personally find the latter closer to the truth, because I’ve known countless Jews who are overtly racist, so claiming anything else would seem like an excuse. On the other hand, I’ve found that some white privilege checklists, etc, seem to forget that Jews exist. Wouldn’t it be interesting to try analyzing racism and lay out an antiracist agenda AS WHITE JEWS? What are the similarities and what are the differences inherent in doing that?

    For instance, owning my whiteness is of course an important part of antiracism, but I still cringe every time I have to choose an ethnic identity with the word “caucasian.” Honestly, who’s from the caucasus mountains? I find it disturbing enough that Western Europeans or their American descendents want to obfuscate their own white privilege with that word – but to describe me with it is just bizarre. What’s the right way to confront things like that?

    For example, when I hear white Sephardim refer to their own experience of prejudice within Judaism – for practicing different traditions, for speaking Ladino, etc – referred to as “racism,” I cringe a little, but I don’t have a full analysis to replace that one either.

    Sarah, I like your comment about Brodkin. I knew what to expect from her book the moment I tried looking up “sephardi” in the index and found nothing …

  21. Very interesting.

    I consider my self ethnically, culturally Jewish. My ancestors are from Eastern Europe, and religious, and I am an atheist. My family speaks Yiddish. I have a fair complexion (blonde, green eyes) but very Jewish, Slavic features (cheekbones, nose, curly hair, etc) and a Jewish last name. So, yeah, it’s a tricky, complex thing.

    I feel that in general I relate much more in a cultural sense to POC and children of immigrants than to mainstream American WASPs.

    I took a “Women of Color” class in college, and there were many frustrating moments, like when my black professor and Native American T.A. accused me of being “an Aryan woman with no concept of being a persecuted minority.” I was thinking, um, wait, don’t assume what my experience of race is, cause its DEF not that.

    I do feel part of an “Other” population, and I have witnessed anti-Semitism in my community and towards my father. So I get mad when the Left assumes that the oppression of Jews is Over, Case Closed.

  22. It really frustrates me that people get so shocked when they hear about Jews of colour- it just confirms to me how utterly ERASED we have been. I am an Indian Jew, who has had to explain HOW and WHY I am Jewish, every single time that it is mentioned, I’ve become a frigging expert on Indian Jewish history because I’m forced to recount it so often to people. I mean, if Judaism originated from the Middle East, and just on the tip of Africa, doesn’t it make sense that the people in the surrounding area would have been the first ones to whom the religion reached? i.e African, Arab and Asian people? I don’t see why it is such a big surprise. It is also doubly annoying when ignorant people try to frame the Israel-Palestine conflict as white people oppressing brown people, as if skin colour has anything to do with it.

    More on topic: I know that in the Ashkenazi community here in London a frequent topic of debate is what to write on those bloody ‘ethnic origin’ questionnaires (you have to do them for everything here, school & job applications etc- supposedly for monitoring purposes only) Because they feel extremely uncomfortable ticking the ‘White-British’ category. ‘White-British’ people have never seen white Jews as one of their own so it’s then frustrating to be forced into a category that doesn’t want you and you don’t identify with, but have no other real options except ‘Other- Please explain.’

  23. @ Velma (#18) – The “Jewish if your mom” criterion is not universal.

    I’m from an interfaith family – Jewish dad, Catholic mom. To the other Reform families we knew when I was growing up, I was Jewish because we celebrated the basic holidays. To Conservative Jews I knew at school, however, I wasn’t Jewish because I didn’t go to Hebrew school or have a Bat-Mitzvah. To Orthodox Jews, I wasn’t Jewish because my mother wasn’t. (And according to some nasty individuals, I shouldn’t even exist.)
    To some of the Ultra-Orthodox, having a Jewish mother isn’t enough – you have to prove your ancestry further back.

    On the other hand, an Episcopalian-born friend of mine is in the process of converting to Judaism, and pretty much all Reform and Conservatives will recognize her as Jewish by the time she’s finished the process (I’m not sure how the Orthodox consider converts.)

  24. I’m mixed Jewish – 3/4 Ashkenazi and 1/4 Mizrahi – from the UK and my experience is definitely that I do not feel ‘white’, I feel ‘other’. Although my skin is very fair most of the year (we don’t get much sun here as you might expect!) I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve been told by Lebanese and Palestinian friends that I look exactly like their cousin or friend x or y. I have dark curly hair, dark eyes, Semitic features. I am also asked on a weekly and daily basis ‘where do I come from’ quickly changing to ‘no, where do you *really* come from? when I reply I’m from London or England.

    So to me, the idea that I am ‘white’ or plain European, is just odd. I am Jewish. And frankly if that concept doesn’t fit with the prevailing way of describing people in the world, well then all that tells me is that the prevailing way of describing people in the world is wrong.

    I also got into quite a spat about it with people on theangryblackwoman blog, who quoted the Brodkin book at me to tell me exactly just how Jewish people are, in fact, white and could not for the life of them understand why this was extremely offensive and was trying to dictate my identity to me in a way that they would never accept happening to them!

    I can only second Keren’s excellent and clear comment about the situation in London too.

  25. Mercredi, it depends on who the convert converted with. If it’s anyone but the Orthodox, the Orthodox won’t consider it legitimate, but even it depends on which Orthodox movement because the Israeli Orthodox authority has a tendency not to accept non-Israeli Orthodox conversions, which seems kind of amusing to me that the North American Orthodox are suddenly complaining about this because, well, that’s how they’ve been treating the rest of us for decades/centuries.

  26. I think that “race” is so problematic a term that it really doesn’t apply to American Jews, though its main element, Otherness, very often does. Try being around a bunch of lefty academics talking about Iran. Or, for that matter, Israel/Palestine. The creeping anti-Semitism in left discourse may not “racialize” jews per se, but it certainly others them with just as much fear, prejudice, stereotyping, and suspicion.

    As someone pointed out, plenty of “white” people are disenfranchised by the most American holiday of the year. A holiday that culturally dominates public space for two months minimum. I have plenty of Christmas rage, even though plenty in my family are Christian, and the family Christmas party is the most fun of the year.

    Basically, I agree with everyone that the case of American Judaism is a very good example of the problems with defining all racial and ethnic identity.

  27. I’ve never thought of all Jewish people as white. That sounds silly to me. It’s like saying all Christian people are white, or all Muslim people are white. I figured since Judaism is a religion, you can be any color and practice it.

    The simple logic of my brain often confounds less open-minded people. For instance, I met one person who was surprised that there are black people in Canada. I just figured there were black people everywhere. I met another person who thought it was funny when Asian people had southern accents, even if those people grew up in Texas. Imagine what he’ll think when he meets Asian people from Jamaica.

  28. I grew up in San Diego, and spent a lot of time visiting my grandparents in LA. They were in what was a fairly-Jewish section of Sherman Oaks, and that was apparently more so when my mother grew up there, albeit a pretty darn reform population (Hanukkah bushes and lights abounded). I had a number of friends who were Jewish, including my second-oldest continuous friend (since I was about 4). I grew up with Jewish people being pretty darn normalized in my worldview.

    Honestly, antisemitism is the one bit of classic racism I actually feel pretty confident saying I, as a pasty white protestant-raised chick, did *not* internalize at *all* growing up. I seriously did not consider the Jewish folks I knew (who were, with one exception, not of color) different from me except in religious belief or the eating of cheeseburgers. I don’t mean to minimize the difference that I’ve come to realize they might have felt, but… it wasn’t until I was in high school that I learned of the concept of caricatures of the Jewish race (or understood the Holocaust; it had confused the hell out of me as a kid), and it felt about as anachronistic and weird as the Victorian-era portrayals of my (Irish) people as lesser beings.

    I’ve come to realize since in conversations with my friends or threads like this one that antisemitism isn’t dead or erased, unlike anti-Irishness. It kinda shows my privilege that I still can’t quite get that through my head, since I’m able to ignore it (unlike those who are targeted by it), but…. I honestly don’t understand it. I wish I felt the same way about the other *isms I *DID* internalize growing up. Intellectually, I know they’re the same degree of irrational, but, yeah.

  29. I think it’s possible, in this case, to make a distinction between being/identifying as white and acknowledging that one has white privilege. As an ashkenazish yid, i’m loathe to “identify” as white because i think it takes a really dangerously short view of history and is in some ways disrespectful of my elders who faced and suffered from very explicitly racial oppression. But, i think that comes with even a greater obligation to acknowledge that i am the beneficiary of white privilege in this time and place.

    I have a friend who is a Persian Jew and is very light skinned, so he passes for white in the US but not in other parts of the world where he’s lived. This is deeply distressing for him at times. I think the place that he’s at is something like what my parents whole generation of ashkenazim went through.

    It’s also worth pointing out that there are Ashkenazim that don’t pass as white, or at least not all the time, and not for reasons of conversion or intermarriage.

  30. On the “what makes one Jewish”: Judaism is traditionally matrilineal — you’re Jewish if your mother is Jewish. Conversion is acceptable though, at which point you’re as Jewish as if you were a natural born (if your father is Jewish but your mother isn’t, you would have to go through the conversion process).

    The only kink on conversion is that often more orthodox bodies won’t recognize conversions done by less religious organizations. Orthodox Jews recognize conversions overseen by Orthodox rabbis, but are less open to those done by Reform or Conservative ones.

  31. My heritage on my mother’s side is Jewish, but I wasn’t raised Jewish. Although I and my family “look Jewish,” I hadn’t really ever thought of myself as anything but white. A few kids in school would say stuff once in a while (the inevitable jokes about my nose, and some awful tasteless stuff about Hitler and the Holocaust), but I never felt unsafe. When I lived in Europe as a teen, though, friends of mine would tell me not to go to certain neighborhoods because I “looked too Jewish.” It may have been that there were just a lot of skinheads at that time and in that place, but it was the first time that I felt unsafe just because of my heritage. It was a strange experience.

  32. The problem with the statement “Jews, Italians, Irish, and other groups who had previously been white…suddenly found themselves designated as races separate from the “Nordic” upper class” is that there had, in fact, been a long history of discrimination against (some of) of those groups in the US, in particular majority Catholic groups such as the Irish and Italians. Anti-Catholic feelings were common in pre-1900s America, going at least back to the various dissident religious groups who settled New England (in particular the Puritans). In fact, a whole political party, known as the “Know-Nothings,” was founded to oppose perceived threats from immigrant Catholics–rather eerily paralleling modern anti-immigrant and fundamentalist screeds. The later integration of Catholics into “normal” society is perhaps one of the best examples of how attitudes can change over the decades–no one today in their right mind would claim that the Irish are treated any different than white Protestants, for example.

  33. VelmaSabina, I know a non-indian hindu. She is from Nepal. She also follows Buddhism (sp?). The Beatles followed Hare Krishna at least for a while, didn’t they? That’s a kinda branch-off of hinduism.

    I don’t see how you can be ‘born’ a certain religion. Yes, you can be brought up that way from birth, and it’s part of a person’s family history, but most of my family probably identified as christian, that doesn’t mean I’m somehow genetically christian. I understand the *concept* of it, but it would be a stretch to consider someone, for example, a communist because their grandparents were communists.

    There are, of course, some real idiots who think that a white person ‘has no right’ to be a muslim or whatever. It perplexes me how someone can say ‘this is the only way to salvation/heaven’ but then tell you you’re not worthy of even TRYING to get there because of your skin colour or nationality. It’s completely self-contradictory. I’ve never heard anyone say a black person has no business being christian, but I’ve heard again and again that if you’re white and western, being a hindu or muslim is just Not Right.

  34. I’ve always been so frustrated by how to identify my heritage. My mom’s Jewish, my dad’s Native American and Irish. I happen to have obscenely pale skin, blue eyes, and blonde hair (unlike the rest of my swarthy, black haired family). Still, I have been attacked during discussions on race for looking too “white” to know anything about it, or told that Jews are white. As someone who has zero extended maternal family due to the holocaust, this hurts.

    Where it gets really weird is my boyfriend. His mother is total whiter than white British and his dad it Jewish. He has kinky dark hair, very dark skin, and the deep-set eyes and hooked nose stereotypically branded Middle Eastern or Jewish. Numbers-wise he’s “whiter” than me, but we still get shit when on the streets for being in an inter-racial relationship (and don’t even get me started on airports). He has certainly experienced far more direct racism in his life despite being “whiter” than me. It just leaves me SO confused. Argh. Why do people have to think in such absolutes?

  35. And, yes, by the way, I fully acknowledge that I have been a beneficiary of white privilege since my oh-so-blonde hair grew in. This frustrates me even more, since it all seems so frikkin arbitrary. Why should I get through security in 10 minutes and then wait while either my boyfriend or my brother gets “randomly searched” for another 45? It makes no sense! My follicles and melanin count don’t make me any more or less likely to bomb a plane or shoplift than theirs. Not to mention that they apparently must by much worse drivers than me, if you count their tickets. When my boyfriend and I are on the freeway I feel perfectly comfortable going about 20mph faster than he does without worry. It makes me sick.

  36. I honestly don’t understand the problem.

    Most American Jews are white. But they’re still Jews. You can be white and belong to an oppressed category; it’s just that your oppressed category is a culture/religion, not a “race”. You can be a white Jew just like you can be a white Latino (notice that questions as to whether or not you are Hispanic ask about your *ethnicity*, not your race, because you can be a white Latino or a black Latino or a Native American Latino or even if you’re a Filipino a Polynesian Latino — it just means your cultural ancestry is an American continental nation or New World island that was colonized by the Spanish.)

    That’s why it’s important to point out the difference between white Christians and other whites (and if you’re an atheist who celebrates Christmas, congratulations, for cultural purposes you’re a Christian.) Jews, and members of other long-term established culture/religions like Islam, suffer oppression that has nothing to do with being white and everything to do with belonging to a different culture than mainstream white Christianity. (And no, Wiccans and atheists do not count, because they are not a long-term established culture, yet. If we manage to pass our Wiccan or atheist beliefs on to our children and grandchildren, that may change. Nonbelievers of established religion deal with *other* kinds of shit, not the same kind of shit that the people who culturally belong to a non-Christian religion do.)

    I mean, who made “white” the gold standard for “you are not oppressed?” What about gay whites? Female whites? Disabled whites? You can be white and oppressed *for a different reason.* So why can’t we just say that Jews are white, except when they’re not like when they’re black? I mean, most American Jews are not more “swarthy” than my Italian ex-boyfriend. My biological grandfather turns out to be Jewish, but his daughter, my mom, is considerably paler than my Italian father. Is there a movement to declare Italians non-white?

  37. I know that for me personally, whenever I meet Caucasian
    Jews the most important thing to me as a Black atheist, who was born in Nigeria to a very devout Muslim family the biggest thing is that when push comes to shove many of them will side with white patriarchal supremacist regime.

    I really don’t think that all white Jews would do that, just like all French did not collaborate with the Nazis, not all African men want to dehumanize African women or all whites want to be beneficiaries of racism, just that their struggles are not mine and at best they can be my allies. Just like I cannot make GLBT & women’s issues mine all I can do is be a real ally who does not bullshit them.

    I guess I cannot see Ashkenazi & other European Jews as not being white, I want to be an ally to recognizing everyone’s humanity & identity but maybe I am too wrapped up in my own group’s struggles to feel much for Caucasians. Right now I am more interested in meeting & building relationships with West & East African Jews.

    Thanks for reading my rambling post

  38. I like what Ephraim said and can completely understand the ambivalence that Ephraim feels about assimilation into generic whiteness that might not fully accept you, in some ways its’ similar to what mixed race folk deal with

  39. I’m fair-skinned with reddish hair. Non-Irish people think I’m Irish just because of the hair, though I don’t have Irish features at all. Few guess Jewish as my ethnicity though, unless they meet the rest of my family or know that my last name is Hebrew. It’s not easily recognizable like Goldstein and Rosenberg, so few non-Jews know it.

    I grew up thinking I was just like everyone else. I didn’t think I could be anything but white. Sure, my dad’s side of the family and my sister all have darker skin and curly hair, but of course it was no more unusual than my mom’s side with the fair skin and red and blond hair.

    But I grew up in a suburb of a major northeastern city with lots of other Jewish families. I probably went to 20 B’nai Mitzvot the year I was 13. Plus the majority families who weren’t Jewish were overwhelmingly Irish or Italian – also people whose grandparents hadn’t been considered white – with a few Korean families thrown in for good measure. So I grew up thinking that antisemitism was a thing of the past. I never experienced it. We were all second-generation Americans and whether the stories in our homes were about siblings lost in the Holocaust or coming to the US during the potato famine and running into No Irish Need Apply signs, it wasn’t our reality.

    My father told me differently all through my childhood and teen years. He told me that antisemitism still existed and I would learn as I got older.

    Then I went to college. The population was very different than what I was accustomed to: many students of German and English descent, Methodists and Lutherans and Southern Baptists. There were probably more blond students in my dorm than there had been in my high school graduating class. And my father was right. I had floor-mates trying constantly to convert me to Christianity. I heard derisive comments about the sororities that were predominantly Jewish (when the sisters take your coat they will look at the label inside and blackball you if it’s not an expensive brand) but they were not said about the predominantly Christian ones. The dorm where many Jewish students lived was renamed so by witty students to include the word “slut.”

    As I’ve gotten older, I feel like I consider myself less and less white. I certainly have passing privilege because of he way I look, but I feel more and more other because of how I see my community treated.

  40. Every so often on Buffy forums, I would see someone question why the red-haired green-eyed Alyson Hannigan was cast as a Jewish character. As a reddish-haired* green-eyed Jewish person myself, I would find that a bit insulting — “we don’t all look the same, you know.”

    Generally speaking, December is the only time I feel “different”. Maybe at Passover, sitting in the employee cafeteria eating peanut-butter-on-matzah. Other than that, I’m just like every other “white” person.

    * – not flaming red, more of an auburn, the red side of brown

  41. Sometimes I get a bit annoyed with the way that right-wingers treat Jews as not white, and resent the fact that many of us are pale skinned enough that we can be mistaken for real people, while those on the left treat Jews as white and therefore on the side of The Man. (Of course, it’s a complete coincidence that their problem with Jews is that we are presumed to be rich, capitalist, bourgeois, and exerting secretive influence on the media and government. Yeah, right.)

    Other times, I take a step back and realize that never quite being accepted in any given group has been part of Jewish experience for most of history. And it is true that some Jewish people act like privileged, clueless white chumps in discussions of racism, while a minority are actively racist against people from more visible minorities. So yeah, whether pale skinned Jews are white does really depend on the context.

  42. For those complaining about How Jews Became White Folks, I’d second David’s recommendation early in the discussion of Eric Goldstein’s The Price of Whiteness. The instant anyone mentions Brodkin, just ask, “Have you read Goldstein?” to point out that there’s more to the story.

  43. I am an American ex-pat who has lived in Israel for the past six months. When we decided to come here for business reasons, we were told by several individuals, including family members, that we would never fit in and that Jews hate pale, blonde people. We already knew that was ridiculous, having attended school with many Jewish kids, and we can now testify that Israeli Jews look like EVERYONE. We have Israeli Jewish friends whose appearances range from very dark-skinned to slightly swarthy to very white, red-heads to one friend, who, to her chagrin, is the spitting image of Anne Coulter.

    That said, however, even in Israel we have noticed obvious discrimination and rudeness toward the darker-skinned, and with the recent influx of African and Russian Jews, whose numbers are putting pressure on the immigration system, some in the Knesset have, to their shame, supported revising the “right of return” guaranteed in the Israeli constitution and have suggested putting forth a more stringent definition of “Jewishness” and a more onerous route to citizenship.

  44. David, Matt – thanks for the Goldstein recommendation! I’ll check it out. I’d heard mixed reviews about the Brodkin book before I read it, and it did indeed leave me kind of unsatisfied.

    It’s interesting that so many people have had the exact opposite experience as me (WestEndGirl, the argument on angryblackwoman you described sounds totally infuriating). Maybe it’s because the Jewish half of my family is very assimilated, and so the people who think Ashkenazis are always white don’t bother mentioning it to me.

    J – thanks for the note on Sephardim. That was silly of me.

    One more word on matrilineal descent: the rule that states that your mother has to be Jewish comes from religious law, and even then, not all branches of Judaism still adhere to it. So Reform, Reconstructionist, and Secular Jews only need to have been raised in a Jewish environment (a requirement that is, I’m guessing, intentionally vague) to be considered Jewish.

  45. ‘Is there a movement to declare Italians non-white?’

    Well, there is from some people. I don’t think it’s a general thing, but I’ve heard comments from people about whether an Italian or Spanish person is ‘white’.

    In a documentary called ‘Young, Nazi and proud’, the filmmaker was jewish by descent, only the young racist he was talking to didn’t know it. When he found out, he was shocked, because he (the racist) had commented on how much they both looked alike!

  46. I get the ‘gee, you don’t look Jewish’ occasionally, as I have light brown, straight hair. People assume all Jews have dark and curly/wavy hair for some reason. I also have a smallish nose! They’re also surprised that not only are their black Jews, but, historically, Chinese Jews! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China

    I’ve also been having issues with ‘the left’ as of late, and like you I suspect it’s deeper than the Israel/Palestine issue. I consider myself quite liberal but have been feeling more alienated from certain debates. Recently the Iran resolution Congress passed. I don’t like the resolution any more than anyone else, but I certainly heard lots of ‘Jews control Congress/the media’ talk going on in liberal discussion boards. It seems like 10 years ago this wasn’t an issue. And then there are the Truthers. Oy vey!

  47. I’m a half-Arab American intrigued by this as well. I am white by virtue of coloration and have also been a beneficiary of white privilege, although by facial contours and surname, or perhaps a misunderstanding of geography, many people have assumed I am Jewish. But I think a lot of folks have no idea what a real Palestinian group of people looks like. I agree that race is contrived and is a social invention. I’d love to read more about it.

  48. i always thought the facila structure of jews (not sephardic but ashkenazi) was distinctive, as well as their longevity in constrast to other races.

    its weird, though-many will argue, quite convincingly, that the jews of today are not original decendents of jews who lived in palestine 2k yrs back.

    in short, they were converts.

  49. “its weird, though-many will argue, quite convincingly, that the jews of today are not original decendents of jews who lived in palestine 2k yrs back.” – chucky

    The first place I saw that argument was in Arthur Koestler’s “The Thirteenth Tribe.” He argued that the Ashkenazi were descendents of the Khazars, a people who settled in the area between the Black and Caspian Seas and later coverted to Judaism. Koestler did not intend it as an anti-Semitic slur — he was proud of what he considered his Khazar heritage — and said that, since they had become Jews, they were Jews.

    I hadn’t heard the argument (about the Ashkenazi being non-white) being common in the progressive communtiy before. I was aware that the early Zionists saw Jews, including themselves, as inherently different than Europeans, and many Zionist leaders went so far as to change their last names to seem more Asian (Green became Ben-Gurion, Shkolnik became Eshkol, Myerson became Meir, Jaziernicki became Shamir, Scheinermann became Sharon, and so on). The changes in the United States went in a different direction – names became less “Jewish,” not less “European.” I think the changes were in a more “Anglo-Saxon” direction as well.

    “I’ve written before on how angry I was when fellow progressives began to inform me that while some Jews consider themselves white, it’s only because they’ve assimilated into white culture. They never explained what white-looking Jews actually are, if not white, but the message was always clear: if we Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews think we’re white, well, it’s just because we wanted some of that tasty privilege so badly that we suppressed our real identity to get it.” – The Girl Detective

    Well, the Zionists were insisting that the Jews weren’t really Europeans. They were arguing that an Arabic-speaking, devout Orthodox Sephardic Jew in Morocco and an English-speaking socialist unbeliever of Ashkenazi descent in London belonged to the same national group, despite having nothing in common. Lord Montague, who was the only Jew in the British Cabinet when the Balfour Declaration was issued, declared this tenet of Zionism to be anti-Semitic: the Zionists were claiming that he, as a Jew, was not a real Briton, and that he had no business being in Britain.

    She makes a very good point that the idea of “White” changed after WWII. However, there’s an impression — and I don’t know if it’s true — that more Jews than, say, Christian Poles or Christian Italians changed their last names. Furthermore, the Christian of Italian or Polish descent could continue being proud of her ethnic identity and practicing her religion without it being a severe handicap against her. However, since discrimination against Jews was more widespread, “full” membership in the mainstream required hiding their ethnic background and religion.

    I think there’s a confusion between “white” and “American culture” going on here. The Ashkenazi weren’t black; they weren’t automatically relegated to the back of the bus in Mississippi. But they weren’t automatically in the American mainstream, either; assimilation meant denying their identity.

    “Here’s what’s really toxic about the idea that an Ashkenazi like me isn’t what she says she is: it paints us as infiltrators or spies, sneaking into white society so that we can get our hands on what doesn’t belong to us. From a white point of view, this turns us into something threatening, a presence that has to be identified and dealt with.” – The Girl Detective

    I don’t know. I doubt that, for many white leftists, this idea stems from a mistrust of Jews. I think the reaction may stem more from pity. Consider the light-skinned “Negro” who “passed” as white. The right-wing racist would say that this act “passing” was wrong because he was trying to get his hands on something he didn’t deserve. The left-wing criticism of this act would center on the “passer’s” denying an important part of his identity. The progressive would argue that he should have the same chance at getting his hands on stuff as anyone else. However, the act of passing, while helping the individual, did nothing to help those who couldn’t pass, and also did nothing to destroy the overall structure of racism.

  50. I am an Ashkenazic Jew who has been asked if there is “black in me.” If someone doesn’t immediately realize that I am Jewish he generally thinks I’m Italian. Since I am 50 years old, my academic education didn’t include any of these fancy acronyms and terms for types of oppression.

    Some helpful links:

    Cracking the Code – Reform Judaism Magazine Spring 2008

    The latest DNA research offers extraordinary insights into our people’s origins and its impact on each of us. To tell us what cracking the Jewish code has revealed, RJ editors Aron Hirt-Manheimer and Joy Weinberg turned to Jon Entine, author of Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We’re Afraid to Talk About It and, most recently, Abraham’s Children: Race, Identity, and the DNA of the Chosen People

    http://reformjudaismmag.org/Articles/index.cfm?id=1321
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    Bridges – Volume 9, Number 1 – 2001
    Writing and Art by Jewish Women of Color
    http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/journals/bridges/bridgestoc.html

    CONTENTS Volume 9, Number 1 2001

    Special Issue: Writing and Art by Jewish Women of Color

    Shahanna McKinney
    Introduction/4

    Poetry
    Hilary Tham
    Scenes from a Marriage/15

    Amal Rana
    Ebony-Vermilion Stories/46

    Mary Loving Blanchard
    In the Sudan/98
    Hanukkah Celebration/99
    A Village of Witches/100

    Memoir
    Carolivia Herron
    Peacesong/9

    Essays
    Dina Dabhany-Miraglia
    Moving Women, Moving Me/26

    Katya Gibel Azoulay
    Jewishness After Mount Sinai: Jews, Blacks and the (Multi)Racial Category/31

    Siona Benjamin
    Finding Home and the Dilemma of Belonging/59

    Rosa Maria Pegueros
    Of Faith and Fire/66

    Molly Malekar
    The Compass of Human Conscience: Notes on the Israeli Peace Camp, May 2001/76

    Tamu Ngina
    Afram Jews Forum: Creation of an Online Community/90

    Internet Resources on Jews of African Descent/93

    Harriet McKinney
    Reflections of a Jewish Mother/95

    Conversations/Interviews
    Reena Bernards
    An Ethopian Gilgul Come to Life: An Interview with Toni Eisendorf/21

    Sigal Eshed
    Shula Keshet
    Ahuva Mu’alem
    Shuli Nachshon
    Zmira Poran Zion
    Dafna Shalom
    Chen Shish
    Parvin Shmueli-Buchnik
    Orna Zaken
    Sister: Mizrahi Women Artists in Israel/49

    Siona Benjamin
    Belaynesh Zevadia: Israeli, Ethiopian Diplomat/81

    Art
    Margo Mercedes Rivera-Weiss
    Incajew/64

    Personal Narrative/Fiction
    Miri Hunter Haruach
    Born to be Yeminite/84

    Lital Levy
    Conversations with a Jinni/102

    Reviews
    Shahanna McKinney
    Black, White and Jewish: Autobiography of a Shifting Self, by Rebecca Walker/114
    Black, Jewish and Interracial: It’s Not the Color of Your Skin, but the Race of your Kin and Other Myths of Identity, by Katya Gibel Azoulay/117

    Notes on Contributors/124

  51. I have somewhat of a different take on this. When people ask what I am I only go by those things that define culture. First of all, I am Israeli, second part of my family were Sephardim from Spain. Another part of my family were Maghrebim from Senegal. Yet, another part of the family was French, another part from India. Then another part from unknown places in West Africa.

    I don’t personally identify with the whole, American based, white or black system since it is recent and is inaccurate for many people. In terms of the white and Jewish issue. That may be more of an outside of Israel thing. Here in Israel people don’t really use the whole white, black, colored, etc. dichotomy. Here most people consider themselves Israeli first and then what ever culture their families came from and took with them.

  52. Actually, there is a case on the EEOC website where a Jewish man insisted on having his race identified as Jewish. I guess it is similar to Hispanics who claim that being Hispanic is a racial identity. Good luck in your quest for Whiteness!

  53. This is interesting, as I’ve always viewed Jewishness the exact opposite way. It seems to me that many or most Jews are treated as white and have white privilege (on other words, are “white” as far as that goes), BUT because of anti-Semitism that sometimes/often questions Jewish whiteness, I trust Jews who feel that they aren’t simply white or don’t have (as much/much/any) white privilege. They know what they’re facing in the world a helluva lot better than I do, so they absolutely get the benefit of the doubt (versus, say, Joe Blond Christian Straight Guy who claims to “not have” white privilege without any good explanation for why that would be).

    I guess my main thought is that I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with people saying that, and I hope they open their eyes at some point.

  54. Ephraim said, “I think it’s possible, in this case, to make a distinction between being/identifying as white and acknowledging that one has white privilege. As an ashkenazish yid, i’m loathe to “identify” as white because i think it takes a really dangerously short view of history and is in some ways disrespectful of my elders who faced and suffered from very explicitly racial oppression. But, i think that comes with even a greater obligation to acknowledge that i am the beneficiary of white privilege in this time and place.”

    and i just wanted to say, “yes, exactly. thank you.”

  55. Thlayli said, “Every so often on Buffy forums, I would see someone question why the red-haired green-eyed Alyson Hannigan was cast as a Jewish character.”

    whomever was questioning was not only being stereotypic, but underinformed – alyson hannigan’s mother is jewish.

  56. Sam said, “I think there’s a confusion between “white” and “American culture” going on here. The Ashkenazi weren’t black; they weren’t automatically relegated to the back of the bus in Mississippi. But they weren’t automatically in the American mainstream, either; assimilation meant denying their identity.”

    is the phrase “restrictive covenant” familiar to you? or the weight of the word “restricted” as it as used against jews in the u.s. up at least through the civil rights era? or maybe “christians only” in classified ads? no, the ashkenazim weren’t black*, but there were racist laws and socially acceptable exclusionary practices that they had to cope with in the united states. for a shorthand version, check out the films “gentlemen’s agreement” {1948}, “school ties” {1992}, and “focus” {2001}.

    *yes, amazingly enough, it is possible to be other-than-black and still be the target of racism in america.

  57. I agree, its a culture thing. “Jew” and “White” are exclusive groups. Jews are semitic like the Arabs but they have mixed with whites to varying degrees. A white looking Jew like Alicia silverstone can be considered white but not if they identify themselves as belonging to a some other group (like Jews) because then they belong to that group.

  58. And I assumed my Jewish friends were white and thereby enjoyed the same social status as I. Thank you for helping me to understand. I will start another rumor about Jewish people, they are loyal, enterprising, loving, and generous to a fault.

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