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No Peace, Even in Death

This is just sick.

BEIJING – Police in northern China have detained three men for the deaths of two women whose corpses were to be sold as “ghost brides” to accompany dead men in the afterlife, state media said.

Authorities indicated that the killings last year were not isolated cases, the Legal Daily newspaper said on its Web site, but did not give any details.

Yang Dongyan, 35, a farmer from Shaanxi province, said he had bought a young woman for $1,600 and planned to sell her as a bride, according to the paper.

But then he met Liu Shenghai, who told him that the woman could command a higher price as a “ghost bride,” it said. The tradition, called “minghun” or afterlife marriage, is common in the Loess Plateau region of northern China, where a recently deceased woman is buried with a bachelor to keep him company after his death.

Yang killed the woman in a ditch, bagged her body, and sold her for $2,077 to Li Longsheng, an undertaker, who said he could find a buyer, the paper said.

So not only was this woman treated as a piece of property to be sold while she was alive, but because she had more value as a corpse, she was killed and her body sold. And from the looks of it, there’s some kind of secondary market in both live and dead women, since the woman was bought by the farmer to be re-sold. I would guess her family sold her in the first place.

A second woman was also killed and her body sold to accompany some dead man in the afterlife, though she only brought in $1,000 because she was “less pretty.” Though the profit margin was likely higher, since she was a prostitute killed during a session.

So not only do these women have a hard life, but they have to spend the afterlife waiting on some strange man whose family bought them to be his eternal servant.

Oh, and had they not been caught, this Dynamic Duo would have killed again.


31 thoughts on No Peace, Even in Death

  1. Freakish. Reminds me of the practice of killing servants, wives, and even beloved pets to accompany members of the nobility to the afterlife in ancient Egypt. It’s hard to believe this sort of things happens in this day and age, but then you hear about conservatives in Jordan who say that the censure of honor killings would promote promiscuity.

  2. There is so much hatred of women in this world that it is impossible to fathom. I mean, if the Chinese did not kill or abort their female babies by the thousands, there wouldn’t be a dearth of women for men to marry.

  3. I mean, if the Chinese did not kill or abort their female babies by the thousands, there wouldn’t be a dearth of women for men to marry.

    My friend and I were talking about that very point yesterday. Clearly, logic is not what’s fueling these misogynistic practices.

  4. Freakish. Reminds me of the practice of killing servants, wives, and even beloved pets to accompany members of the nobility to the afterlife in ancient Egypt.

    Citations? Most of what I’ve seen is only mummified pets sometimes killed and buried in the funeral tombs with thier owners. I never heard anything about servants or wives.

  5. Citations? Most of what I’ve seen is only mummified pets sometimes killed and buried in the funeral tombs with thier owners. I never heard anything about servants or wives.

    I learned that’s what Egyptians did in my history classes, but I must admit I’ve never researched the veracity of those teachings.

  6. When you hear about how the problems of gender parity in India and China, you would hope that it would become a self-correcting problem — even if the underlying problem of the commodification of women wasn’t really resolved, at least the problem of the worth of the commodity would be resolved.

    And I sort of feel like I’m rocking back on my heels saying “any day now, any day now…” while this shit keeps happening.

    You read stories about how men are now resorting to buying their wives instead of insisting on a dowry, but then you hear that people are still aborting girl fetuses because they want everyone else to have girls but they still want a boy and you think “any day now…”

    This is definitely a case of Evolve or Die, I think. It’s too bad the women have to go first.

  7. Egyptians: There is now better evidence of human sacrifice in Ancient Egypt, as detailed href=”http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0504/feature7/index”>here: The practice was common to the point of insanity in the tombs of the First Dynasty of Ur in Sumeria, where dozens of retainers were buried alive with the king and queen.

  8. It wasn’t the Egyptians. The practice was common in Mesopotamia, most specifically in Assyria and Babylon. The Minoans also practiced this (not from Mesopotamia, the Minoans were on the present day isle of Crete.)

  9. ARRRGHH!! damn html tags. I promise to get the link to work sometime today, along with a link to an article about Sumerian human sacrifice.

    Anyway, the practice was apparently nearly universal among early civilizations. The Moche, Maya, and Aztecs were enthusiastic, as were the northern European Celts and Teutons, of bog burial fame. There are as many explanations for this as there are students of ancient societies, and it is possible to think both that it was probably logical at the particular time and place and think that it should be a capital crime today.

  10. re: comment #8 “I love it when religious people kill others for totally make believe reasons. Religion is awesome!”

    I feel you -but after a comment like this I think,”as opposed to what? killing people for non-make believe reasons ?”. The problem is woman hatred -religion is just one of the many flavors . Look at snuff porno or men who kill women for “cheating” on them, political /nationalistic murders and rapes. I think woman hatred predates ALL religions and consequently permeates all religions as well as all political ideologies.

    (by the way the name auntisocial is different from someone who posts as Auntisocial-I’m too lazy to change names right now)

  11. they have to spend the afterlife waiting on some strange man whose family bought them to be his eternal servant.

    Like fuck they do.

    Rather, they can find all the freedom and joy and love and happiness they want in the Summerland and in the arms of the Gods, and the jackasses that killed them can be inflicted with a normal person’s conscience and deal with the fact that they committed murder.

    (Sorry if I’m stepping on anybody else’s faith here; this is pissing me off and if they can make statements about the afterlife, so can I.)

  12. it is possible to think both that it was probably logical at the particular time and place and think that it should be a capital crime today.

    Of course. In the world created by that particular religion, what these men did was perfectly reasonable. This is why the idea of morality as coming from a “higher authority” is so totally bogus.

  13. I don’t know enough about the particular religious traditions of the region to really say whether murder would have been acceptable to provide a man’s corpse with a “ghost bride,” but this just goes to show that some serious tragedies can occur when uninformed religion mingles with potential economic gain.

  14. I probably heard the bit about servants being provided for dead Egyptian nobility on some Discovery show, but I found this interesting article from a “Tour Egypt” website. It looks as though archeologists can’t even agree whether servants were killed at the time of the noble’s death. But this article does describe more than one tomb in which servants, pets (and in one case a dwarf) were buried near their king ostensibly to serve him in the afterlife.

    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/firstdynastysaqqara.htm

  15. Exactly. Chalk up two more deaths that wouldn’t have happened except for religion.

    Oh I don’t buy it. If it wasn’t religion, they would have thought up some other excuse for misogyny and abuse of women.

  16. All I can say to this is “god help us all”. Even in this day and age there is still so little regard for women.

    I read this article about the marriage disparity in China because of a growing “surplus” of men. China’s government is doing little to counter it and it’s leading to crap like this. I can only say that if their society continues to decline in this fashion, while I feel sorry for the women who suffer from these traditions, the overall population seems compliant in them and I can’t feel sorry for them and as cruel as this sounds they get what they create, reaping what you sow, so to speak.

  17. I thought it was live women marrying dead men? There was something in the news about that recently – women being paid by men’s families to go through a marriage ceremony for the departed. The only catch was that they couldn’t then ever get married, being permanently hitched to the dead guy. This takes it to a grotesque new level. c

  18. I took a course on the history of ancient China (up to contact w/ the West). This doesn’t surprise me at all–well, the fact that it’s STILL being done does, I suppose. From the “Cambridge Illustrated History of China” by Patricia Ebrey:

    As in many other societies, both animals and human beings were sacrificed to royal ancestors and to various nature gods… Shang kings frequently offered sacrifices of human beings, sometimes dozens as a time. Subordinates would voluntarily ‘accompany’ a superior in death, showing that they felt obligations tantamount to servitude to those above them. At the early or middle Shang royal burials at Zhengzhou, one, two, or three sacrificial victims were often buried between the inner and outer coffin chambers or on the roof of the outer chamber. By the late Shang, many more people accompanied the rulers into their graves. Tomb 1001 at Anyang, which may be for the king who reigned about 1200BC, has yielded the remains of 90 followers who accompanied him in death, 74 sacrifices, 12 horses, and 11 dogs.

    Granted, this was around 1200BC. But old Chinese religions tended to see the afterlife as a natural extension of the present life. And some aspects of these folk religions have apparently survived to the modern day. I wrote a term paper that examined stories and folklore from China to see how similar the worlds of the living and the dead were viewed. Some gods had their own offices and bureaucracies in the stories I read. Other tales had common people inadvertantly wandering into the spiritual realm and meeting the dead there (it was treated rather matter-of-factly, though there was always supposed to be some separation between the two). I recall one story where a living man accidently entered the spirit realm, married a woman there, had a child with her, and then returned to the real world with the child.

    Beliefs such as these still seem to exist in rural China. The men who were paying for dead brides wanted a wife for themselves in the afterlife. If she is buried with one of them, she will come with him and be his wife.

    SIck.

  19. Well, in India a widow used to have to burn herself to death on her husband’s funeral pyre. Sometimes it still happens, in rural areas.

  20. Tehcnically speaking, the Aztecs aren’t actually that ancient, their society flourishing from the 12th to the 16th centuries.

    I dunno, sometimes I think that thinking of the Azecs as an “ancient” society is a distancing tool we use to minimize the atrocities the Spanish inflicted on them.

    But that’s niether here nor there.

    I’d like to know what, precisely, was going through the minds of the people who purchased the corpses. Where did they think the bodies came from? Did they care?

    I don’t see any real mention of this tradition besides the one Reuters article.

  21. I’d like to know what, precisely, was going through the minds of the people who purchased the corpses. Where did they think the bodies came from? Did they care?

    No. the women were just commodities, and the need for their dead relatives to have a wife in the afterlife was more important than where the women came from.

    The gender disparity will continue as long as sons are valued over daughters. The parents to be are not thinking ‘I should provide a future wife for all those extra men’ they are thinking ‘what is in my best interest’. While there are now families paying for brides, ingrained culture dies hard.

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