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Where Can I Find Me a Warrior-Poet?

Oh Abstinence Clearinghouse, where would I go to for laughs if not for you?

Today, we have the fine pieces of literature sold at the Abstinence Store, and I think they do a pretty good job of demonstrating how abstinence-only advocates feel about men and women:

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In case you can’t see the image very well, that’s “Every Young Man’s Battle,” with a picture of an upstanding young man checking out the hot ass on a clearly not-so-upstanding young woman. And if that weren’t enough, it’s worth noting the subtitle of the book: “Strategies for Victory in the Real World of Sexual Temptation.” The description:

In this world you’re surrounded by sexual images that open the door to temptation. They’re everywhere-on TV, billboards, magazines, music, the Internet-and so easy to access that it sometimes feels impossible to escape their clutches. Yet God expects His children to be sexually pure. So how can you survive the relentless battle against temptation? Here’s powerful ammunition. Stephen Arterburn and Fred Stoeker, the authors of the hard-hitting best-seller Every Man’s Battle, now focus on the temptations young single Christian men like you face every day-and they offer workable, biblical strategies for achieving sexual purity.

Compare to “Every Young Woman’s Battle”:

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Subtitle: “Guarding Your Mind, Heart, and Body in a Sex-Saturated World.”

Got that? Young men are out to achieve “victory” through abstinence (in which I suppose their victory booty is, well, you know…) whereas women are abstinent in order to protect said booty. The description of the young women’s book:

Guys Aren’t the Only Ones Fighting a Battle for Purity. The world you live in promotes sex as the answer to just about everything. The pressure to go along with the crowd is greater than ever before, and it’s easy to compromise in little ways that are a lot more harmful than they seem. You and your friends may become caught up in destructive relationships or sexual activities without even knowing how you got there. You just want to be normal–to fit in, to be liked, to look attractive to the opposite sex. But are you paying too high a price? This counterpart to the award-winning Every Young Man’s Battle can help you: · learn how the sexual battle begins in your heart and mind · understand your hunger for attention from guys · recognize and avoid the potential pitfalls awaiting young women on the journey toward adulthood and possibly marriage · find out how the media, novels, fashion, internet chat rooms, and body and beauty obsessions influence your sexual choices–and what you can do about it · guard your mind, heart, and body against sexual and emotional compromise · develop a deeper, more satisfying level of intimacy with God Whether you have so far protected yourself emotionally and sexually, feel that you’ve been robbed of your purity, or have given in to temptation in some way, this book can help you achieve or reclaim sexual integrity. It can also guide you through the temptations and pressures of young adulthood while demonstrating how you can live your life to the fullest–without regrets.

Men are actors who are trying to achieve something. Women are passive recepticles, trying to protect themselves, maintain their “integrity” and avoid the robbing of their purity. Men have independent sexual desires that are stoked by “the culture.” Women simply want attention, and might give in to sex in order to get it.

In my review of Jesus Camp, I wrote quite a bit about the war-like language used by a lot of the documentary’s subjects when they talked about promoting their religion and “taking America back” for the Christian right. That kind of language isn’t just limited to strict religious advocacy — it certainly extends to religious advocacy that’s thinly veiled as “education.” See, for example, “God’s Gift to Women“:

within the rugged soul of every young man, there is a warrior in search of his sword and a poet in search of his pen. But heroic, prince-like masculinity is something most women only dream of in today’s perverse and self-serving world. With contagious passion and boldness, Eric Ludy challenges you to forsake modern male mediocrity for Christ-built, warrior-poet manhood-manhood that will capture the heart of a woman and change the course of history.

Am I the only one here who would definitely not be interested in someone who fancied himself to be an example of Christ-built warrior-poet manhood?

Many of the books sold by the Abstinence Clearinghouse represent gender essentialism to the extreme: Men are out-of-control booty-hounds who can only temper themselves by channelling their rape-and-pillage instincts into other arenas, like Jesus; women are fearful of sex but desperate for attention, and are willing to do anything to please men — which is good, unless they take it too far and displease Jesus, and besides, pleasing men sexually is only temporary, because afterwards they’ll think you’re a huge slut and won’t want to marry you. Men are conquerors and warriors. Women are waiting to be conquered, but should only allow that conquering to happen if she’s gonna get something out of the deal, too — and that “something” had damn well better be big, glittery, and at least a karat.


43 thoughts on Where Can I Find Me a Warrior-Poet?

  1. forsake modern male mediocrity for Christ-built, warrior-poet manhood-manhood that will capture the heart of a woman and change the course of history.

    can’t stop laughing.

    help

  2. Oh Abstinence Clearinghouse, where would I go to for laughs if not for you?

    Here.

    Where idiots try to blow up abortion clinics without bothering to find out whether they perform abortions, and wind up causing significant amounts of damage to places that neither perform them nor provide referrals.

    And, getting back on topic, gee, look at this gem:

    Eric Ludy challenges you to forsake modern male mediocrity for Christ-built, warrior-poet manhood-manhood that will capture the heart of a woman and change the course of history.

    Shorter Eric Ludy: “Woohoo: go fight rapehavesexwithyourwedlockedproperty pillage conquer!”

    I hate this crap so much.

  3. I would date a female queen-warrior-poet in a second. Just sayin’.

    Seconded. I tend to go for the Earth-Mother Wise-Woman type, but who could resist a queen-warrior-poet?

  4. Aaaagh! I saw a whole endcap of these books, all different kinds, much more than mentioned here, in a Borders in south Tempe, Arizona today. I would have been much more WTF? about it except that (a) I had a sinus headache and (b) I was on a single-minded quest to find a book on programming and (c) I could care less what a bunch of prudes had to say about my sexuality. I don’t need their guilt trips.

  5. If I didn’t know the background and only heard the phrase “Christ-built warrior-poet manhood” used by the chap in question to describe what he was aiming for, I have to say I’d be tempted.

    However, given the background, he’d just think I was a disgusting skanky ho and steer well clear of me lest I tempt him.

  6. …Christ-built, warrior-poet manhood-manhood that will capture the heart of a woman and change the course of history.

    What the hell does “Christ-built” mean? Is Christ a construction company?

    And why on earth would any sane woman be attracted to such a shovenistic poseur? Masochism aside, I mean.

  7. You gotta be a warrior-poet, because everyone knows that non-warrior poetry is a sign of TEH GAY. Take that, Walt Whitman!

  8. Christ-built, Peterbilt — I think it’s meant to call up an image of a big rumbly powerful truck of a man with a crucifix like a cherry on top.

    It still sounds painfully silly. If I wanted a truck, I’d buy a truck.

  9. Natalia asked: “What the hell does “Christ-built” mean? Is Christ a construction company?”

    Well, he was a carpenter…..

  10. *Sigh* If only the people who write this crap would take this–

    The pressure to go along with the crowd is greater than ever before, and it’s easy to compromise in little ways that are a lot more harmful than they seem. You and your friends may become caught up in destructive relationships or sexual activities without even knowing how you got there.

    –and use it as a reason to start domestic violence hotlines and shelters.

    And take stuff like this–

    find out how the media, novels, fashion, internet chat rooms, and body and beauty obsessions influence your sexual choices–and what you can do about it

    –and take it as background for learning to value people for their kindness, for how good the sex is, whatever, rather than just how perfectly they applied their makeup.

    If you take that one sentence above by itself, it almost sounds like a critique of heteronormativity, rather than what it actually is–an attempt to tightly control sex.

  11. Look at the covers.

    The boy is tempted by Evil Woman™.

    The girl is tempted by her own fantasies.

    There is no Evil Man (no trademark, because it doesn’t exist).

    Fuckity fuck fuck fuck.

  12. “What the hell does “Christ-built” mean? Is Christ a construction company?”

    no, no, no, you see God/Jesus/Holy Spirit has a plan for your life. This plan is to be a Godly Christian, to eschew the worldly, make Christian babies, make lots of money, and die peacefully in bed with a smile on your face knowing that you will go to heaven. (alright that is a simple version but you get the drift.)

    Unfortunately, we humans are born in sin, so we will lie, steal, fuck anything that moves, murder, etc. This is where the construction comes into play. Through your personal relationship with Jeeeezuz, being indwellt with the Holy Spirit and with loving guidance of “real” Christians you will be made in a Godly Christian.

  13. “What the hell does “Christ-built” mean? Is Christ a construction company?”

    Have you seen the pictures? He’s ripped! I’ve never seen a video about Jesus where the guy playing him isn’t more muscular than the average man.

  14. “…Christ-built, warrior-poet manhood-manhood that will capture the heart of a woman…”

    I know this is sort of a wilful misreading on my part, and that the third hyphen is actually supposed to be an em-dash, but I just can’t stop the phrase “warrior-poet manhood-manhood” from going around and around in my head and making me giggle uncontrollably.

  15. If you really, really don’t want teenagers to fuck, there is a really good way to help reduce the number of them doing it. Or at least it worked at my high school.

    See, I went to one of these small town super-conservative schools where sex-ed consisted of “DON’T DO ‘IT’!” Without any real explanation of what ‘it’ precisely was. What we ended up with was raging chlamydia rates and about 20% of the senior class pregnant.

    So some friends of mine, juniors and seniors, decided to stage an intervention with the quiet support of a few open-minded teachers. We offered to give “peer relationship counseling” in group sessions to the underclass-people.

    We started with this premise: the first point of sex education is to be open and honest, because otherwise no one is going to ask their real questions. So those of us with experience, of any kind, started by sharing it. And those without it, shared experiences where they had chosen to avoid doing things.

    From there, we moved on to the why. Why do we want to have sex/sexual encounters (because it feels good, because we’re “supposed” to, because we’re in love, because he’ll/she’ll break up with me, because that’s what guys want anyways – just a few of the responses that were brainstormed.) And then we started talking about the absolute taboo part of sex-ed: the female libido.

    Once we got the women/girls to understand that it’s OK for them to want sex. It’s not only OK, it’s quite normal and healthy. They don’t have to do anything with it, but it is unhealthy to ignore your own desires completely. And then the guys started to realize this too. Some of them, of course, didn’t want to hear it. Most of those kids left, a few changed their minds. But the vast majority of the women/girls were just so relieved. A few even cried.

    Once we got past this point, we had a long discussion on good reasons to have sex (you really want to and are not being pressured into it) and bad reasons (everything else.) We also discussed the risks of all sorts of sexual acts – from blow jobs, to PIV, to anal, to just getting naked and snuggling (yep, you can get a couple STD’s from that, although less likely.) We also discussed how to reduce your risk (condoms, talking about sexual histories, getting tested and treated, looking at each other naked with the lights on (because some STD’s, especially skin-transferred, can be seen – this isn’t foolproof, but it is a method of risk-reduction.)

    Then after all of this, we talked about reducing pregnancy.

    This program is still going on, still underground although with the tacit approval of about half of the tenured teachers – the board is in the dark about what it really is. But I am quite proud to say that for the last 2 years, there have been only 2 pregnancies at my old high school, where about 2500 kids go to school. It also appears (we can’t know for sure, but of those who report it, the number has vastly dropped) that chlamydia cases as well as several other STD’s have gone way down. I won’t say zero, because clearly, one, they won’t all be reported, and two, some cases of such diseases can be symptomless.

    I would bet the number of kids who aren’t having sex has probably risen by quite alot.

  16. I know this is sort of a wilful misreading on my part, and that the third hyphen is actually supposed to be an em-dash, but I just can’t stop the phrase “warrior-poet manhood-manhood” from going around and around in my head and making me giggle uncontrollably.

    See, I’d read it as deliberate – as in, remember when you were in junior high, and when you had a crush on someone, you didn’t “like” them, you “like-liked” them? I’m picturing this guy saying, “No, not just manhood. Manhood-manhood. You know.”

  17. NBarnes — I was gonna make that comment but ya beat me to it.

    NancyP — one time after a Shabbos dinner, a group of us were playing a game (I forget the name) wherein one person draws a card, asks the question on the card to another person (or the assembled crowd) and the askee has to guess what the asker’s answer would be.

    I asked the question: “whom would I rather date — Xena or Gabrielle?” The answer, as everyone else got, was Xena. Someone I had dated for a bit (she had not come out of the closet to our crowd as a lesbian yet) piped up “obviously Xena … you are so obviously Gabrielle in a man’s body”.

    But, cf. KnifeGhost’s comments, I actually fancy myself more as an “Earth-Father, Wise-Man” nurturing type, although I’m sure everyone who knows me would just call me an “earthy, wise-ass” type who’ll cook all the meals and do all the laundry if that means he can get out of cleaning the dishes and cleaning the kitchen.

  18. Now I have that godawful song “I Need A Hero” stuck in my head.

    “He’s GOTTA be strong and he’s GOTTA be smooth and he’s GOTTA (mumble something?) from the light!

    to the end of my days i will never get the Marlboro Man fetish.

    majikmama: that rocks. that is exactly what needs to be happening everywhere; what a shame you have to do it “underground” as it were.

  19. >r when you were in junior high, and when you had a crush on someone, you didn’t “like” them, you “like-liked” them? I’m picturing this guy saying, “No, not just manhood. Manhood-manhood. You know.”>

    ahahaha! yes! exactly!

  20. What’s funny is that all of this warrior imagery is not biblical. It doesn’t jive with Christ the peacemaker. Modern right-wing Christianity uses the rhetoric of late Victorian era “muscular Christianity”, and it mixes in a healthy dose of (of all things) Jungian archetypes of “warriors”.

    Jesus doesn’t talk about “warrior poets.” Paul doesn’t talk about “warrior poets.” This crap owes more to Robert Bly and Sam Keen and the rest of the half-naked middle-aged white men drumming in the woods crowd than it does to the Gospel.

  21. I have a copy of Today’s Christian Woman that I picked up in the campus post office giveaway box last year… it’s got a bunch of interviews with Shannon Ethridge right after she published this book. The magazine treats her assertion that women can also fall into sexual temptation as pretty new and revolutionary, which I thought was interesting. But in her interview she talks a lot about how in her bad old days she would go to the gym in revealing clothes etc. In other words, right back to being the object of temptation rather than the tempted.

  22. Am I the only one here who would definitely not be interested in someone who fancied himself to be an example of Christ-build warrior-poet manhood?

    But Jill! You said… I mean… I thought we were gonna…

    Oh, wait. Christ-build. Didn’t see that “t” at first. Never mind.

  23. Am I the only one here who would definitely not be interested in someone who fancied himself to be an example of Christ-built warrior-poet manhood?

    THAT’S ALRIGHT, YOU HUSSY – WE CHRIST-BUILT WARRIOR-POET MEN FAR PREFER TO ADMIRE OURSELVES IN MIRRORS ANYHOW!!!

  24. anyway, i’ve got no problem with men drumming in the woods, annoyingly pretentious as Bly can be; frankly i think this bunch could stand to do a bit more drumming, if you know what i mean

  25. Ugh, I sooooo hate this stuff. I mean, the guy gets all the fun virtues like courage, and the girl, well, she gets to stare off into space. Did they ever think that this stuff makes chastity BORING?? For purposes of full disclosure, I do have to say that I think that it’s generally a good idea to wait for sex until out of one’s teens, and for both girls and boys. I don’t, however, plan on passing legislation allowing those who don’t do that to be jailed. This kind of thing only makes it harder to get the reasonable point that sex because someone else — including one’s peers — coerces you into it is a bad idea.

  26. Belledame, I’m with you. I’ve actually used bits of Iron John in my Men and Masculinity class — Bly is infuriating but often spot on, and some of his critiques of what passes for modern American masculinity are brilliant.

    And I have drummed a bit in my day, and I run around half-naked several days a week in the woods, and I’m just about middle-aged. So I’m not one to talk.

  27. “He’s GOTTA be strong and he’s GOTTA be smooth and he’s GOTTA (mumble something?) from the light!

    …fresh from the fight… I’ve heard it too many times on my daughter’s Shrek 2 DVD not to know.

  28. a group of us were playing a game (I forget the name) wherein one person draws a card, asks the question on the card to another person (or the assembled crowd) and the askee has to guess what the asker’s answer would be.

    The game is Scruples— it’s a lot of fun and pretty revealing.

    I had the same problem with: manhood-manhood, but eventually figured that it was supposed to be an em-dash. I like a lot of your takes…

  29. OMG! Scruples! Speaking of manhood!! Apparently it was invented by THIS guy:

    http://www.savethemales.ca/

    Henry Makow, PhD.! Who also is the author of “A Long Way to Go For A Date” (wherein our hero finds a demure bride in the Orient, where they still know how to do these things properly), and is 100% sane! He says so himself, somewhere in there. But go, do: his work really speaks for itself.

    Why do I know this? Don’t ask. I forget how I first found him. Something about how lesbians are taking over the WORLD, Pinky? One of those. He’s got a lot like that. All porn is gay; sexual liberation is a sinister plot of the Illuminati. Nothing you didn’t already know, but he had such -style,- somehow…

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