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Irony is Dead. Long Live Irony!

The acts of life have neither beginning nor end. Everything happens in a very idiotic fashion. That’s why everything is the same.

Tristan Tzara

Amanda over at pandagon has a very interesting post up about sarcasm and parody. I think she gets it exactly right when she says,

Now, as soon as we pointed out that the girl is flipping the bird [“See where I’m waving around up here with the laser pointer? That’s an obscene gesture“], everyone got the joke. By no means should any of this mean that Boomers who are not Deborah Solomon are irony-impaired or anything like that. It’s just that the Hip Hop Generation is so thoroughly trained to expect things to be remixed or remade or meta-commentaries that we look for that first, especially when we’re being presented with an image or other cultural touchstone that’s already iconic. The audience’s default assumption is parody.

I think this conflict in reception can be extended to blogs, where sarcasm–or, to use the word we made up for it, snark–is standard. Many of us don’t distinguish between being funny and being incisive. Not to argue that the meat papers separate everything into lightweight biweekly lifestyle columns* and the real news, but that difference in form is probably being read as a difference in focus and function.

It might also have something to do with the blur in acceptable subject matter. When you’re riffing on a subject, it’s natural to go from your government to your boss to your baby. Humor can be a very flexible and loopy thread. Comments sections–check out the one Amanda set off–can also be very hospitable to riffs, when eight or nine people toss a joke back and forth.

Speaking as a borderline Millennial (I think), she was also right here:

There were some people in the thread below that complained that the next generation, the Millenials, is being unfairly characterized as “earnest”. I think they’re probably right that it’s unfair. It’s probably a characterization from the same people that think that these sort of multi-layered jokes are stupid. They’re hoping that the next generation will just give up and stop being so ironic. My hope is they’re probably the ones ushering in the po-po-mo era, where there’s no such thing as too self-referential. Otherwise known as the “Snakes on a Plane” generation, where you don’t even have to be familiar with a cultural artifact to mock it.

Our generation is named for a milestone that was supposed to rain death and destruction on us, right after it ended civilization as we knew it, but which resulted in nothing but a few bad made-for-television disaster movies. How could we be less connected to irony? Also, if her argument is true, that circumstances define generational trends rather than some thirty-year epidemic of strong or weak will, then irony will be even more beloved of the Millennials. We certainly don’t have fewer reasons for apathy and disgust.

Some time ago, I started but didn’t finish a post about irony and queerness–which, if you’ll notice, is an identity with a deeply ironic name. It was originally inspired by a brief dispute with Hugo over sarcasm. He’s agin it. No, seriously, he prefers earnest phrasing. I don’t. It has its place, to be sure, and there are people far more talented at it than I am, but it’s not what I do and not what I love. I opened my post with this quote:

AIDS, it was awful! I hope I never get that again.

Steve Moore, gay comedian.

This, to me, is queerness. I love irony because irony is how the perverts communicate. It’s how we make space for ourselves. It’s home. When I think about our heroes–Oscar Wilde, for example, or Sylvester, or Gertrude Stein–I think about people with a deep and abiding love for the absurd.

The second time I almost finished this post, I’d briefly gotten into it with Edith in the comments to this (ironic) post.

Edith said:

Chesticles — very amusing.

The fact that the only option born-women have, in order to go shirt-free, is surgery and hormones to look like a man — not so funny.

I replied that these words were no joke. And they’re not. Similar terms include “mangina” “dicklet,” and “diclit.” (I don’t have to explain those, do I?) We use them in earnest–more or less–to describe ourselves. The old terms aren’t necessarily evocative, and they’re based on lexical definitions of male and female bodies that tend not to acknowledge transsexual bodies. It doesn’t work for me to ignore that I have (or had) these fatty lumps right here in front where everyone can see them. I don’t have a chest like my brother’s chest. Up until very recently, I had a chest like Scott Turner-Schofield’s. It doesn’t work to call them breasts, either. After two years on testosterone, they looked very different from what most women have. I haven’t have a chest like my sister’s chest for a very long time.

Edith assumed this was me just kidding around in part, I think, because she doesn’t understand the rationale behind them. She doesn’t see them as a way to use language to skirt assumptions about whose bodies are real and whose aren’t. Like I said, this is no joke. It’s very difficult to describe something when you have no word to refer to it. How can I talk about what it’s like to bind my chest, or to have someone touch me there? To the extent that description denies us, we are invisible. We exist only to the extent that we conform to normal, acknowledged bodies. This has real-life consequences, too. If men simply don’t have anything other than penises, then no men have any need for gynecological care. If men simply don’t have anything that could remotely be compared to breasts, then of course all men would prefer to have anything remotely comparable to breasts surgically removed.

So, how can ftms refer to their bodies with terms that describe those bodies? Chesticles is one option. We need to make our own multilayered terms, to riff off of the status quo in order to establish our own position. Yeah, it’s funny. We’re funny. This whole situation is funny. Man with gazongas? Hilarious. Getting the shit beaten out of you because you’re a man with gazongas? Hi-fucking-larious. Getting booted off the stage because your gazongas, while currently on a man, apparently don’t qualify as male, which would keep them from qualifying as gazongas at all? Wooooo! I bet Scott Turner Schofield nearly pissed himself.

Humor as resistance is a strategy that marginalized groups have used since humor–or possibly hatred–was invented. How else do you answer assertions like, “You aren’t human?” How do you tear them apart? “Am too!” lacks a certain je ne sais quoi, I’m thinking. Jokes constitute metacommentary; they allow people to get outside the terms offered. Laughter can be a defense mechanism for the unusual, as well as against it.

*Yes, this is real. It appeared not in Lifestyles, Living, Datebook, or Home & Family, but in the editorials section, which is usually reserved for–and even on that day, was otherwise occupied by–impassioned arguments for and against causing explosions in various other countries. Next year, I hope the bears go after him.


17 thoughts on Irony is Dead. Long Live Irony!

  1. . It was originally inspired by a brief dispute with Hugo over sarcasm. He’s agin it. No, seriously, he prefers earnest phrasing.

    I don’t buy it for a second.

    That said, you’re right on, pretty well start to finish.

  2. Chesticles — very amusing.

    The fact that the only option born-women have, in order to go shirt-free, is surgery and hormones to look like a man — not so funny.

    Wow, I’m really curious about why she limited her assertion to “born-women.” I assume she didn’t just say women so that she could exclude trans women. Which suggests that Edith might know of some secret method by which trans women with breasts can get away with being topless in public!! The world wants to know. Or maybe she just thinks trans women all have detachable boobies.

  3. Wow, I’m really curious about why she limited her assertion to “born-women.” I assume she didn’t just say women so that she could exclude trans women. Which suggests that Edith might know of some secret method by which trans women with breasts can get away with being topless in public!! The world wants to know. Or maybe she just thinks trans women all have detachable boobies.

    Well, I’ve got a detachable set of primary sex characteristics; why wouldn’t you have detachable secondary sex characteristics?

  4. I think this conflict in reception can be extended to blogs, where sarcasm–or, to use the word we made up for it, snark–is standard.

    Random snarky (and totally minor) nitpick: while we may have expanded the use of the word snark, we definitely didn’t make it up. As a small child back in the halcyon days before the internet existed, whenever I would backtalk my stepmother would admonish me, “Don’t get snarky with me, young lady!”

  5. snarky (adj.) “irritable, short-tempered,” 1906, from snark (v.) “to snort” (1866), from an imitative source akin to Low Ger. snarken, N.Fris. snarke, Swed. snarka.

    1906. If I remember right, the internet was just beginning to roll off the assembly line at Acme Tube Factory.

  6. Chris, I wish I knew how to post the song HERE. It’s actually my profile song on MySpace. . melanie safka rules!

    I clicked on the asterisked link, and I suppose I got what I asked for. All the world needs is a ski trip to Tahoe! With our own cabins! Then, no more violence!

    one of the reasons the link made me angry is because of the way I grew up. We raised much of our own meat and produce, and always lived in a tiny trailer off a dirt road somewhere. Having grown up with so few amenities, this family’s difficulties seem minor and their frustrations seem silly. Whenever I hear about people going on a “camping trip” where they’re going to end up living better than I did for the whole of my childhood/adolescence, my skin crawls.

  7. I clicked on the asterisked link, and I suppose I got what I asked for. All the world needs is a ski trip to Tahoe! With our own cabins! Then, no more violence!

    Yup. It was the kind of thing I expect to see in The Onion, not in earnest.

  8. Interesting post, piny.

    Irony and sarcasm are such touchy topics sometimes—especially when talking to someone who just doesn’t get it. Dry sarcasm is one of my favorite forms of humor, but I occasionally find that it gets me in trouble with people who are a wee bit too literal. I often have to throttle back on my sarcasm for fear of confusing or hurting other people.

    I like the drawing of connections between being queer and the use of irony and sarcasm. Being queer has left me with a certain degree of cynicism about the world. Sarcasm, irony and cynicism seem to be natural companions for me. I can’t quite explain why, but they feel connected.

    I’ll have to mull this over some more.

  9. Having grown up with so few amenities, this family’s difficulties seem minor and their frustrations seem silly. Whenever I hear about people going on a “camping trip” where they’re going to end up living better than I did for the whole of my childhood/adolescence, my skin crawls.

    Most of my adult life has been spent living on the edge of the low edge of poverty, starting with my ex who had us from camp sites to cars to on a regular basis. My leaving him with my kids graduated me to a long stint on welfare. I would have had higher status if I had been a prostitute.

    Just had to put in, I know exactly the feeling you speak of. It is disturbing to say the least that a leading liberal national newspaper routinely assumes that the only people’s lives worth discussing are those of the white middle and upper middle set.

    The rest of us apparently don’t exist. Nothing new.

  10. I like the drawing of connections between being queer and the use of irony and sarcasm. Being queer has left me with a certain degree of cynicism about the world. Sarcasm, irony and cynicism seem to be natural companions for me. I can’t quite explain why, but they feel connected.

    I’ll have to mull this over some more.

    I think it’s part of any outsider indentity or status. The queerer you are, the more outsider you tend to be in this society. Irony is the language outsiders use to subvert mainstream discourse. (God, that sounded way more academic than it needed to.) It’s more or less intended only to be understood by hip people. In some way, it’s a bit of a secret handshake — make an ironic crack about something, and you can tell the people who get it by who cracks a knowing smile.

  11. ….from snark (v.) “to snort” (1866)…

    Well you know that until American advertising executives get hold of something, and then use it to mass-market to the oh-so-savvy American adolescent, then that thing doesn’t exist. And then when that particular thing does spring into existence it’s all the invention of said coolest-ever-people-ever.

    Cos, you know, no-one in the whole history of mankind anywhere ever used irony before. Not ever.

  12. I think it’s part of any outsider indentity or status. The queerer you are, the more outsider you tend to be in this society. Irony is the language outsiders use to subvert mainstream discourse.

    Yes, but what is interesting about many of the modern claims to irony, is that instead of being used to counter the oppression of the mainstream, or to challenge the powers that be, it is used in service or defence of these powers.

    The way the whole lads mags/Tucker Max/GGW phenomena is marketed is an example of this. Anyone who finds these things objectionable will be greeted with “but it’s ironic”, as if that is the only measure of something’s worth, or renders the thing immune from examination.

    “Irony” is now a mainstream mass-market tool, irony itself having being subverted, and turned into a buzz-word which can be used to justify a particular lifestyle and set of consumer patterns: Behave like The Man tells you to, people, – it’s ironic !

  13. Well you know that until American advertising executives get hold of something, and then use it to mass-market to the oh-so-savvy American adolescent, then that thing doesn’t exist. And then when that particular thing does spring into existence it’s all the invention of said coolest-ever-people-ever.

    Like the stuffed shirts over at Television Without Pity? I’m sorry for assuming that the term is new slang; I’d never encountered it, either in print or IRL, anywhere but blogs and sites like the aforementioned. I didn’t mean to imply that making up slang constituted creativity, just special interest.

    The way the whole lads mags/Tucker Max/GGW phenomena is marketed is an example of this. Anyone who finds these things objectionable will be greeted with “but it’s ironic”, as if that is the only measure of something’s worth, or renders the thing immune from examination.
    “Irony” is now a mainstream mass-market tool, irony itself having being subverted, and turned into a buzz-word which can be used to justify a particular lifestyle and set of consumer patterns: Behave like The Man tells you to, people, – it’s ironic !

    …So the hipsters don’t get to claim sui generis, but the multinationals can? Come on, now. “Lighten up! It’s all in good fun!” has been used in attempts to deflate criticism of viciously reactive insults for a lot longer than Found magazine has been in business. The only difference now is that ironic humor seems to have become more popular, and the defense of narrow-mindedness as specifically ironic humor is therefore more popular as a result.

  14. There are a lot of references for snark in Wikipedia, though only one is as a style of speech. It’s been used by Lewis Carroll (as the name of a creature that lived on the same island as the Jabberwock) and Jack London (as the name of his boat). I don’t recall it being in wide use as a way of denoting sarcastic, ironic, almost sneering tone of speech before the last few years. 10 years ago, it would just be called sarcasm.

  15. Just offering a data point: The first appearance of “snarky” in the Usenet archive at Google Groups is June of 1985, in net.abortion. That said, it appears only 33 more times between then and August 1991.

    Hope I’m not the only one who finds this interesting.

  16. In the midst of the word he was trying to say,
    In the midst of his laughter and glee
    He had softly and suddenly vanished away —
    For the snark was a Boojum, you see.

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