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Kiddie Couture

I’m having a hard time putting into words exactly why this makes me sad:

Fashion

Premium jeans, for instance, an item coveted by Maisy Gellert, a third grader living in Westchester County, N.Y. “I’m very particular,” Maisy said. “Sevens are the only jeans I actually wear.”

Like many girls her age, her fashion antennae are finely tuned, her standards exacting, her desires well defined. “I like the stuff that’s in style, like leggings and shorts, tank tops and flip-flops,” she said, promptly adding to that list: “Gap camisoles that are white, because I can wear them with just anything. Puma sneakers, pink and gray — I’m on my third pair — and ballet slippers, but those are hard to find for my size foot.”

Now, I can be a clothes horse as much as the next person, and admittedly I do like to go shopping from time to time. So I don’t think that fashion in and of itself, or seeking physical beauty in and of itself, is a bad thing. I would have far fewer problems with the fashion and beauty industries if partaking in them (or at least making note of them, and attempting to follow the rules they set) was truly optional for women. But it’s not. And I do think it’s a bad thing when women are the “beauty class” — that is, the group in society who are valued primarily for their physical appearance, and grow up with the idea that the quest for beauty should be a primary goal in their lives. I have a problem with the system that punishes women who opt out of this quest, or who, despite their efforts, aren’t perceived as conventionally attractive because of their age, race, body type, or some other reason.

I have a big problem when the fashion industry sets its sights on little girls.

To the delight — or consternation — of their elders, the conventional sugar-and-spice girls’ style formula is laced these days with sass, the clothes not so much sexy as candidly provocative in their mimicry of grown-up fare. Pink smock dresses, T-shirts emblazoned with Tinkerbells and easy-fitting overalls are giving way to skinny jeans, flounced miniskirts and fur-trimmed shrugs just like mommy’s. And second graders are swapping their knee socks for leggings.

In the cosmetics world, too, “it’s all about fashion right now,” said Marcy Gonzales, the brand manager of Fing’rs, which sells preglued press-on nails, patterned with stars and kitties, to appeal to girls who, she said, “have the latest ‘it’ bags and rhinestone-covered Sidekicks.” Sales of preglued nails for children are up 13 percent this year, Ms. Gonzales said.

Playing dress-up is one thing, and when I was in elementary school I loved to play with press-on nails and make-up. And I was allowed to. At home. With my friends. For fun, not for daily wear. And I sure as heck didn’t have a Sidekick, rhinestone-covered or not.

While boys’ clothes are certainly also marketed, they seem to be more targeted at wealthy parents (or, to be more specific, wealthy mothers) who want to dress their sons up like preppy little Ken dolls. Girls’ clothes, on the other hand, seem to be marketed to mothers and daughters alike, reinstating the girl-as-consumer mold, and further tying girls’ identities to how they present themselves physically, and what they have verses what they do.

Hillary Offenberg, on the other hand, imposes few rules and is more amused than concerned about her daughter’s precociousness. Four-year-old Carly Gulotta “has a mind of her own,” said Ms. Offenberg, a wholesale florist in New York.

Not without a touch of pride, she added: “My daughter loves everything that is in fashion right now, like wearing dresses as little smock tops over pants, or mixing polka dots and plaids.

“She got dressed by herself this morning in fuchsia tights. She said, ‘Mommy, even if you say no, I’m still wearing it.’ ”

“You pick your battles,” Ms. Offenberg said, heaving an indulgent sigh. “Carly is a pushy broad.”

Now, if there’s one thing I like in life, it’s pushy broads. But this little girl is four. And while I’m a big fan of letting kids dress themselves and express their creativity through fuchsia tights, grooming them to be slaves to fashion before they’re in kindergarten just seems a little troubling (there’s also a picture of four-year-old Carly getting a pedicure at a fancy Manhattan salon).

Juliet B. Schor, the author of “Born to Buy: The Commercialized Child and the New Consumer Culture” (Scribner), ascribes children’s heightened acquisitiveness partly to increasingly aggressive marketing. “The very insidious thing about this,” she said, “is that kids get the message that they need this product — whether it’s a sugared cereal or the latest fashion trend — to be O.K., to be cool. That is potentially interfering with their intrinsic sense of self. Kids from the very beginning are learning that your self-worth depends on what you have and how the market evaluates you.”

I think this is key, and I would further argue that this consumerism is aimed far more at girls than at boys (although boys certainly get their fair share too). I’d like to see kids outside running around, playing sports, creating artwork, dancing, or doing about 100 other things before shopping for kiddie couture. I’d like to see kids develop their identities based on their interests and passions, not on what brand of jeans they’re wearing. I’d just like to see four-year-olds be allowed to be four.

Thoughts?


68 thoughts on Kiddie Couture

  1. I’m having a hard time putting into words exactly why this makes me sad

    Because she looks way too serious for a four year old?

  2. My four-year-old daughter is a pushy broad. But if she told me or her mother that she was going to wear fuscia tights, and there was nothing she could do about it–well, I doubt she’d even get a count before she got her time-out.

    I’ve no doubt that sooner than I’d like, I’ll be dealing with my daughter becoming brand-conscious and fashion-forward and so forth. But that doesn’t mean I’ll start buying her Prada at age seven. No, she’ll ask for specific clothes, my ex and I will get her some, not get her others. We will buy clothes at Target, whether she likes it or not, and if she complains we’ll explain–perhaps pointlessly in the short-term–that while there’s nothing wrong with buying clothes that look good, there is something wrong with spending lavish amounts of money on clothes that are not demonstrably different than their cheaper counterparts.

    And we’ll fight, and she won’t understand until she’s in her twenties, when God-willing, the lesson takes with her, the same as it did with both her mom and I.

    In short, a big part of this is the refusal of parents to parent. Raise a pushy broad–by all means, the world needs more of them. But remember that as a parent, it’s your obligation to push back.

    (Oh, and FWIW, it will be a cold day in Hell before I buy my primary-school daughter a miniskirt.)

  3. First of all, those kids are spoiled brats. It’s really not their fault at this point, it’s the market and advertising executives who push the rules, and the parents who buy into this garbage in droves.

    Second of all, the sexualization of little girls is scary. JonBenet Ramsey was only the beginning. I was in a bar in London, ON A SCHOOL NIGHT, and this girl, ten years old at most, with the word “Spanky” on the seat of her tight pants sauntering around in a provocative manner while her parents drank at the opposite end of the bar. Little girls in Chelsea were walking around in ponchos that probably cost more than half of my wardrobe, wearing lipstick, and being the wealthier ones, they set an example for everyone else.

    I see the same sort of think happening in America, particularly at the mall on the weekends. It creeps me out. They’re ten! Nine! FOUR!

    I love fun clothes, but I know what it’s like to have your parents and peers push you well before you can handle that sort of thing. I was like a dress-up doll for my mother, and while her intentions were good, I went through a lot of crap (skipping meals, binge-drinking because of stress), before I stopped worrying about looks every five minutes. It sucked.

  4. Well, unless they’re making a shitload of money on the side, I’m guessing these special special children of parents who themselves were special special children aren’t buying this crap on their own.

    I wanted parachute pants, after all.

  5. My daughters are four, and they have no idea what is “trendy” or “hot” right now in fashion. They don’t watch commercials, we don’t go shopping as recreation, I don’t talk to them about fashion trends. They pick out their own clothes– from the pile of comfortable cotton clothing I buy for them. Yeah, a lot of it is pink, and they love skirts and dresses, but four year olds only know what their parents allow into their world, and following fashion trends or wearing hypersexualized clothing and examples of what I’m perfectly willing to keep out of their world.

    Will that change as they get older? I’m sure it will, and we’ll figure out ways to deal with that then. But there’s no way a four year old girl knows anything about the fashion industry, unless her parents show her.

  6. I think Natalia got it right: the parents aren’t doing much in the way of being parents and children are becoming ever more sexualized in our culture. I went shopping for new clothes last week and walked by the children’s section and all I could do was stand and be shocked at the types of clothing offered to children.

    I’m not so willing to lay all blame on marketing strategies – no one is forced to watch teevee or to listen to ads or buy the clothes.

    We’ve had a consumer culture for several decades and we should all know by now that marketing execs only have one bottom line: selling. The choice is ours whether to listen or flip them the bird.

    In this circumstance, I have to blame the idiot parents.

  7. This is a sad thing.

    When I shaved my head one of the first things my six year old sister said was, “Molly, never shave your head again.”

    I asked why not and she said “because you aren’t pretty anymore, you aren’t fashionable.”

    It really does effect little kids, more than people think. I was discussing this with my parents and my Dad was saying that girls just were into certain things more than boys. True, to some extent. But I know little boys who like to dress up with their sisters and little girls who love sports and video games. And now they are being told that’s wrong.

    Agh. Stupid industries. Already making my sisters lose their sense of self, that’s for sure.

  8. Yeah, here’s my thought. Ship her spoiled little ass off to Sudan for summer camp. She’ll come back with a much more realistic view of the world, consumerism, and having BASIC needs met, rather than acting like a spolied, wilfull little brat who only wears Seven jeans.

    Try to not having any jeans, you wretched little brat.

    The parents? You don’t even want my solution for them.

    I tremble for the future.

  9. My daughter is two and we just started shopping for her fall clothes and I cannot believe the absolute lack of little girls clothes that look like they were made for little girls. My daughter loves clothes that have her favorite characters on them (blue, dora, strawberry shortcake, nemo, etc…) and theere’s really not a huge market for them. Instead, we have minature versions of what I would wear. It’s a little scary. I don’t make a huge deal out of what she wears (last night she had on an orange hat, a green shirt, jeans and sandals, because she loves her new hat) but it’s hard to escape this stuff. The only place I’ve found that really makes little kids clothes is gymboree and their stuff is expensive for a little girl who will outgrow it or destroy it in 6 months. I agree with you, kids are being pushed to grow too fast. I would rather see Belle in jeans and a t-shirt runnig and playing than in something she’s afraid to get dirty. And she has strawberry shortcake nail polish I let her wear sometimes, but it’s not a serious dress up thing. Usually I stick to just doing her toes because she thinks it’s funny. She does love dresses and fun hair things, but she’s just as happy in her dora shirt and jeans. I can’t imagine her refusing to wear something because it’s not the latest fashion.

  10. Yeah, here’s my thought. Ship her spoiled little ass off to Sudan for summer camp. She’ll come back with a much more realistic view of the world, consumerism, and having BASIC needs met, rather than acting like a spolied, wilfull little brat who only wears Seven jeans.

    Great, now I have Holiday in Cambodia going through my head. Good thing I like that song.

    Anyway, to the topic at hand. This is depressing. Dressing up and playing at being grown-ups is one thing. Feeling obliged to do it at the age of four is another. Why on earth do parents go along witht this crap?
    And worse, seem almost proud that kids who are barely out of nappies have already been swallowed by the consumerist monster.

  11. Blaming her parents was my first instinct, as was simple “wow, what a spoiled brat!” but it’s not that simple. Parents don’t raise their kids in vacuum (well, they ought not to, anyway. Suffocation.), kids are good in meeting the expectations of the culture around them (and in making those who fail in this feel like wretched outcasts), and if other kids and adults are very fashion-conscious, kids will adopt that outlook as simple survival mechanism.

    I presume she, and her parents, live in upper-middle class neighborhood, and if they would just suddenly make her “value the basic things more” she would just get bullied by her peers who would have adopted a more consumerist outlook. The parents choice in indulging her supposed need for fashion may be a consious or unconscious attempt to ensure that she will fit in later.

  12. Oh, and on the subject of boys: I agree that boys don’t get as much push for fashion, but these days boys become brand-conscious incredibly early and have to start having a cool hobby (=organized sports) that will ensure that they will have good status in the playground microcosm.

    Childhood has become much shorter for girls and boys, and it’s a damn shame.

  13. I’m having a hard time putting into words exactly why this makes me sad

    I can’t tell you that, but I can tell you why it makes me feel sad.

    I don’t like fashion personally and have always been bored beyond words by it. I have no objection to anyone else following it, though, any more than I object to them watching football or playing chess (neither of which I care for.) But this isn’t voluntary fashion games played because the child enjoys it, it is compulsary fashion that she can’t escape. And she can’t be herself, develop her own fashion sense and decide to what extent she wants to play the game when that kind of pressure is being put on her.

    This may sound melodramatic, but I think it’s true nonetheless: Forcing or coercing (ie with peer pressure and adults approval–or just lack of options at clothes stores) the child into following fashion makes her less herself, and more another interchangable cog in the social machine. If she does it poorly then she’ll be considered and consider herself nothing more than a defective cog. And then people will wonder why she puts up with an abusive boyfriend and doesn’t do better at math. They’ll conclude it’s because girls are innately inferior. And limit her further.

    But right now, the child in that picture may still have an inkling of self left. And we’re watching that die. That may be what makes me the most sad, watching the individual die.

  14. Seven jeans my ass. If I were her mother, she’d be wearing $10 jeans and like it. My cousin has a 6 year old who is a prissy girl, but if she refused to wear jeans because they weren’t $100, she’d get a butt whooping. $100 jeans for a kid that you know is going to outgrow them.

  15. I wonder if anyone’s told her about the 8 year olds who make her clothes.

    I do have to say, though, everyone mentioning that little girls’ clothes are like mini versions of their own clothes reminds me of what an old teacher said about life in the 16 or 1700s- Mozart’s time? Anyway, basically children weren’t considered any *different* than adults and that’s why children’s clothes were, always, just mini versions of adult clothes. But then people didn’t have a lot of choice in their life then, and if you were the child of a labourer you were going to be a labourer, etc. It is sad to me that today, when there is so much you could do, little girls are being slotted into this grown-up suburban wife mode so soon. That little girl is eventually going to get tired of clothes and fashion, and she’ll look back and realize she didn’t spend her childhood running for what felt like forever or playing around at a park or something, because she always had nice new clothes to take care of. And, also, the consumerism part. She’s basically being told by watching her mother and, more importantly, people’s indulgence of her, that buying stuff is the way to get attention and be happy. Not, like, developing her own talents or interests or non-shopping-related hobbies or anything.

    Also, totally spoiled. Where’s the fun? How does this make a fancy new dress for her birthday a treat, for example?

    And, thongs at Kids stores? Ewwwwww.

  16. oddly not commented upon yet, the grotesque center-of-attention, is the large pink bag at the base of little carly’s spread wide-open legs.

  17. Funny, I just blogged about teenybopper fashions last night.

    What this photo said to me: Train girls at an early age to spend all of their disposable income on status seeking, clothing, their physical appearance, etc. Then they will be too broke to afford their own homes or a retirement. Hell, they won’t even be able to afford their own spending habits. They’ll have to GET MARRIED if they ever want even a 50% chance at some semblance of dignity in old age.

    As a VISA-carrying fashionista-shopaholic thinking about selling her loot on EBay to fund an auto purchase I cannot afford, this photo is hitting a little too close to home.

  18. I have a feeling that my yet-to-be-conceived daughters will wear clothing from the same place as their mother’s: the thrift store, garage sales, and homesewn. And hand-me-downs from their older cousins.

    Really, why spend a lot on clothes that they’re going to outgrow or destroy anyway?

    I wear clothing from these places because I don’t want to support sweatshops, and I’m too lazy to figure out okay places to buy in that respect. If I make it myself, it’s my style, my size, my colors, my fabric, my unpaid labor. (This works for me because I love to sew, and know how to sew simple things. It might not work for those who don’t have the initial investment for the sewing machine, and/or the time and inclination to make their own.)

    It is disgusting that these kids are sold-Sold-SOLD!!!! to, that they aren’t getting the chance to be kids, rather than obsessed/obsessive versions of (I assume) their parents consumtive lifestyle. Nevermind the families that can’t afford expensive new clothing whenever the fashion changes….

  19. I started hating the New York Times when, a few weeks after Hurricane Katrina and the heartbreaking television footage of homeless, hungry, dehydrated victims, they ran a story about some rich woman agonizing over what pair of $100 shoes to order off the internet for her grade-school age daughter.
    I’m still a teenager, but when I was in elementary school I still wanted to wear frou-frou pink lace and ruffly party dresses from the girl’s section at Nordstrom, clothes that adult women only wear as really silly bridesmaid’s dresses. My fashion icon was Vivien Leigh as Scarlett O’Hara, not whatever pop tart was big during the mid-late 90s.
    That being said, whenever I see a stupid style article in the NYT (like that one a few months ago with the micro-lipo), I always look forward to what feministe will have to say.

  20. But this isn’t voluntary fashion games played because the child enjoys it, it is compulsary fashion that she can’t escape. And she can’t be herself, develop her own fashion sense and decide to what extent she wants to play the game when that kind of pressure is being put on her.

    But right now, the child in that picture may still have an inkling of self left. And we’re watching that die. That may be what makes me the most sad, watching the individual die.

    Damn. Exactly.

  21. It’s true, these girls don’t grow up in a vacuum. There is a feedback loop in marketing consumerism. Frequently the demand already exisits. Girls want to do the stuff their mom does. They want to be like the big girls. Clothing companies see a market and create a product and more demand. If it’s aimed more at girls than boys, it’s because fashion in general is aimed more at women. Boys who want to be like the big boys aren’t looking for designer jeans.
    I would hesitate to give an automatic “No” to a child of mine. I grew up as the kid who got teased for not wearing the latest fashions, and it wasn’t pretty. There’s a line parents have to walk between giving in to everything and giving in to enough to keep their child from being a social outcast.

  22. what makes me sad about it:
    dress-up is fun. when i was a little kid, playing dress-up was this way to pretend to be various other people, and a way to pretend to be an adult in a clear play context. i have a six-year-old niece who, when she wants fancy clothes, wants to look like a fairy princess or something. she likes clothes and is into prettiness, but there’s a clear sense of fun and play about it, and often her definition of ‘pretty’ is idiosyncratic or clearly enhanced by her imagination.

    it’s *play* with clothing. fashion and brand names not only looks way less fun, but it seems like it removes an avenue of play and imagination from childhood.

  23. Yes I agree with you, the consumerism culture of shopping for kiddie couture is bad for children.
    I think kids just may want to have chance to see something different before they get obsessed by highly effective marketing campaigns.

    Thank you for sharing this story with me !

  24. [psst, Jill, I see no attribution or link for the story]

    the clothes not so much sexy as candidly provocative in their mimicry of grown-up fare. Pink smock dresses, T-shirts emblazoned with Tinkerbells and easy-fitting overalls are giving way to skinny jeans, flounced miniskirts and fur-trimmed shrugs just like mommy’s.

    This sort of stuff really disturbs me because of the sloppiness of it. What exactly is the difference between sexy and candidly provocative? Why is a pink smock dress (maybe like the ones I wore in first grade that barely covered my ass?) any less appropriate for a child than a flounced miniskirt that actually hangs two inches lower, and in the case of my daughter’s wardrobe anyway, has built-in jersey shorts. I think buying a fur-trimmed anything for a kid is foolish, as is a hundred dollar pair of jeans, but clearly, I don’t have the expendable income these people have.

    The kid in the photo looks miserable, so that’s sad. But I find this business of scaling down the slut-shaming to four-year-olds really upsetting. The article’s tone is all pompous about certain clothes being acceptable for girls, and other clothes not. How is a pair of skinny-legged jeans worse than a pair of overalls? Honestly, for a kid who’s potty-trained, overalls are a pain in the ass. It’s so hard to manage in the bathroom, and not drop anything in the toilet.

    What makes the t-shirt with Tinkerbell (R) morally superior to a Gap camisole?

    And second graders are swapping their knee socks for leggings

    Look at this. WTF? You know, I consider knee socks to be rather impractical, what with the constantly having to tug them back up. Not to mention that knee socks are intended to be worn with an above-the-knee skirt, that is, a miniskirt, right? Whereas leggings are the simplest possible pants available, flexible, washable, decreasing skinned knees while making sporty activities easier.

    I agree with Schor that the marketing-to-kids is egregious. But there is a huge difference between being concerned about the advertising, and being concerned about consumerism, and being concerned that fuschia tights are somehow inappropriate for a four-year old.

  25. What I find most troubling is the insistence on brand names at such a young age. Interest in clothing is one thing, but that kids have been snared by marketing suggests a missed opportunity for parents to educate their children about consumerism. Adults can think critically (not that we always do) and evaluate the messages we receive from advertisers and businesses, but kids just don’t have the awareness and experience to sift through all the information (some of it manipulative) that the fashion industry throws at us. Kids will be better equipped to make fashion and purchasing decisions as adults if their parents teach them how to be more than just consumers.

  26. This sort of stuff really disturbs me because of the sloppiness of it. What exactly is the difference between sexy and candidly provocative? Why is a pink smock dress (maybe like the ones I wore in first grade that barely covered my ass?) any less appropriate for a child than a flounced miniskirt that actually hangs two inches lower, and in the case of my daughter’s wardrobe anyway, has built-in jersey shorts. I think buying a fur-trimmed anything for a kid is foolish, as is a hundred dollar pair of jeans, but clearly, I don’t have the expendable income these people have.

    Yeah, that jumped out at me too. Consumerism is self-consciousness, and small children need to be oblivious to their idiosyncracies sometimes, you know?

    I think it’s profound ambivalence towards women and children; little girls have to deal with both.

  27. How is a pair of skinny-legged jeans worse than a pair of overalls?

    I hated overalls as a kid almost as much as I hated turtlenecks, so I’m not going to defend people who force their kids to wear old-fashioned kids’ clothes. But it seems to me that there’s a huge difference. This kid craves skinny-legged designer jeans because they’re what’s in the fashion magazines this year. The only reason that this eight-year-old is wearing $170 jeans is that the fashion industry has declared those $170 jeans hip. The same is true for leggings: the kid isn’t trading her knee socks for leggings because she happens to like leggings. She’s wearing leggings because leggings are this year’s trend. And I do think that 8 is a little young to be quite that plugged in to fashion trends, let alone to be indulged in one’s desire to follow them. Can you believe that there’s an eight year old who only wears $170 jeans? You don’t think that’s at all different from an eight year old who only wears purple or sparkly or who refuses to wear overalls?

    Having said that, I don’t think this is entirely new. It’s just an accelorated version of the pressure that I felt in late elementary school to wear Esprit and Benneton. The stuff wasn’t as expensive (but then who knows what kids in New York and L.A. were wearing?), and my parents laughed at me when I asked for it, but the pre-teen consumerist fashion obsession was definitely already there in the mid-80s.

  28. When I was little, my mom would buy me expensive clothes (20 years ago, that meant liz claiborne for kids, certainly high-fashion for Ohio!) Anyway, my teacher sent me home. Twice. She wouldn’t let me run around at recess because she was afraid that if I ruined my clothes, my mom would kill her. My mom finally got the idea that dressing me up like a little doll was hurting me, not just making her smile…
    I hope these parents, (Who tells a kid about Seven jeans???? Jesus.) realize that idea before they make little monsters.

  29. I don’t think anyone in my family owns a single article of clothing that costs $170. I’d even include my dad’s suit jackets in that. We tend to replace clothing only when it develops holes, though, so I don’t think we’re standard.

    My mom had seven siblings, so her mother raised her with a strict no-fuss attitude towards children’s clothing. They all had to have short hair, even. Mom was more liberal towards us, but this idea that children need expensive possessions is ludicrous. They’re kids. They like fart jokes. They want cartoon characters on their sheets. They think particolored popsicles are haute cuisine. They don’t have high-maintenance tastes.

  30. I think this is key, and I would further argue that this consumerism is aimed far more at girls than at boys (although boys certainly get their fair share too). I’d like to see kids outside running around, playing sports, creating artwork, dancing, or doing about 100 other things before shopping for kiddie couture. I’d like to see kids develop their identities based on their interests and passions, not on what brand of jeans they’re wearing. I’d just like to see four-year-olds be allowed to be four.

    You know, that gender bias is traditional. Old sermons on the sin of vanity would always talk about elaborate female hairstyles, jewelry, and clothing–not merely because women’s bodies are the abject ones, but because the marriageable girls and well-matched matrons were supposed to retail the family finances by dressing to the nines.

  31. My daughter has friends whose parents perpetuate the problem. I mean really…a 12 year old with a Coach bag and Dolce & Gabbana sunglasses? Hubs and I joke/fear that this little girl will be bankrupt and swimming in credit card debt by her first year of college. When the time comes, I hope her mother can take solace in the fact that her daughter, although destitute and out of touch with financial reality, looks fabulous.

    I’m so glad my daughter discovered individual style and thrift stores. She wouldn’t be caught dead in anything that has a brand name emblazened on it. Her theory is:
    If the shirt says the brand on it, they should be paying ME to wear it.

  32. Excellent comments, all.

    Parents are indeed very much to blame, and I say that as someone who isn’t a parent. In particular, it’s the well-intentioned desire to help their child “fit in” that is so destructive. It creates and reinforces the connection between a certain narrow notion of fashion and popularity. Parents justify it not as consumerism but as a boost to their child’s self-esteem (oh, what sins are visited upon us all in the name of self-esteem!), and wittingly or not make the problem worse for everyone.

  33. The only reason that this eight-year-old is wearing $170 jeans is that the fashion industry has declared those $170 jeans hip

    Sally, I respectfully disagree. If an eigth-year-old is wearing $170 jeans, it’s not because of the “fashion industry”, it’s because of her family and her schoolmates. Those jeans are not being advertised on Disney channel or Nickelodeon. They’re being sold in the stores her family frequents. You think it’s a ludicrous way to spend money and I’d agree. I probably won’t spend more than $170 on both the kids clothes for a year. I couldn’t if I wanted to.

    But, come on, leggings as I know them have been around for 30 years, longer in other incarnations. What do you mean “this year’s trend”?

  34. If an eigth-year-old is wearing $170 jeans, it’s not because of the “fashion industry”, it’s because of her family and her schoolmates. Those jeans are not being advertised on Disney channel or Nickelodeon.

    Of course they’re not being advertised on the Disney Channel or Nickelodeon. They’re being advertised and reported on (and the line between the two is vanishingly thin) in fashion magazines and in celebrity profiles. I don’t know whether eight year olds are reading/ watching that stuff or if their mothers and older sisters are, but that’s why anyone wears 7s jeans. They’re just jeans, even if they cost half my month’s rent. They’re popular because of the carefully orchestrated hype.

    But, come on, leggings as I know them have been around for 30 years, longer in other incarnations. What do you mean “this year’s trend”?

    I mean that if leggings are all over the fashion magazines this season. They weren’t last year or the year before. When the fashion magazines run features on “trends for fall,” one of the trends is leggings, or else it’s “layering,” with pictures featuring leggings. When Carly’s mom talks about her daughter wearing dresses as smock tops over pants and says that it’s “in fashion right now,” what she’s saying is that the fashion industry, through it’s journalistic wing, is hyping that specific look right now. You may not be aware of this, but the tiny children profiled in this article are.

  35. n particular, it’s the well-intentioned desire to help their child “fit in” that is so destructive.

    Word to Hugo and Tuomas. This is very much a product of the parents’ desire for their kids to fit in, which is almost invariably a product of the parents’ desire to fit in themselves. Which is a wonderful way to fuck kids up. (Fortunately, nothing that a bunch of expensive therapy can’t fix. Yay!)

  36. They’re popular because of the carefully orchestrated hype

    I agree that the hype is there. But kid couture isn’t advertised to kids, it’s advertised to adults, primarily women. Maisy says she likes the stuff that’s “in style” and specifies “shorts.” Remarkably, shorts are in style every single summer. My daughter would express her prefences in exactly the same sort of terms Maisy’s using, you just wouldn’t recognize the brand names, and no one who give a damn.

    The original article is bitching about designer clothes for kids, which, you know, the kids’ can’t buy on their own, and at the same time, it’s bitching about the types of clothes. My point is that regardless of women’s fashion magazine ads, leggings are not something to be getting morally rightous about. Just because I think expensive jeans are silly is not a reason to be hating all over these women and their daughters. If a rich guy’s son wears $170 jeans it would not be reported as news.

  37. Sally, the quantity of editorial documentation for the Leggings Trend isn’t the issue. Given the vast array of fashion mags, and the limited articles of clothing, I’m betting you could probably find just as many citations for every year since Spandex was invented. What difference does it make? Why does anyone care whether or not that kid likes leggings?

  38. But kid couture isn’t advertised to kids, it’s advertised to adults, primarily women.

    I’m not even sure that’s true: have you been following the emergence of “teen” version of the major fashion magazines? But even if it is true, I don’t know that it matters. This is an article about the phenomenon of little children who follow fashion trends in a way that we associate with adult women, not with pre-teenagers. Isn’t that disturbing no matter where they’re getting their information about fashion?

    Maisy says she likes the stuff that’s “in style” and specifies “shorts.” Remarkably, shorts are in style every single summer.

    I could see how you’d think that if you didn’t read fashion magazines, but shorts are actually one of the big trends this year. Shorts have been appearing in major designers’ runway collections, and I’ve seen a lot of fashion spreads devoted to shorts. The more populist fashion and women’s mags like Lucky and Marie Claire have run features about whether one really can get away with wearing shorts to the office or as evening wear. She doesn’t like shorts because every little kid likes shorts. She likes shorts because she’s aware that they’re this years trend.

    You don’t think it’s at all worrisome that Maisy knows a whole hell of a lot more about what’s fashionable than you do?

    My daughter would express her prefences in exactly the same sort of terms Maisy’s using, you just wouldn’t recognize the brand names, and no one who give a damn.

    Right, but that’s the point. I think it’s great when kids have clothing preferences. I’m not fussed that some kids like certain colors or swirly skirts (fun!) or insist on going everywhere in their Superman cape for six months. The problem is that these kids’ clothing preferences aren’t their own: they’re the preferences dictated to them by a really problematic industry that exists to part women from their money. And these little girls are getting trained in that highly problematic consumerism very, very young.

    My point is that regardless of women’s fashion magazine ads, leggings are not something to be getting morally rightous about.

    I don’t think anyone is getting morally righteous about leggings. They’re getting morally righteous about little children who are total fashion-bots.

    If a rich guy’s son wears $170 jeans it would not be reported as news.

    I doubt it would happen, because although men’s fashion is a bigger thing than it used to be, there’s nowhere near the pressure on men to buy a completely new wardrobe every year in order to be fashionable. The fashion industry primarily oppresses women, as consumers and incidentally also as producers. The moral outrage is about kids being indoctrinated very young into a system that oppresses women.

  39. Were people not so blatantly consumeristic and shallow 10 years ago, or was I just living a sheltered life as a teenager in a little town? I grew up in a household where the money was relatively tight (my parents are insanely financially responsible) and it was inconcievable that a kid would even ask for this kind of excessive and useless crap. I remember thinking that it was actually pretty cool to be anti-consmeristic, and making fun of my classmates for paying more to advertise a clothesmaker’s logo, etc. And okay, I wasn’t a hugely popular kid. But it seemed like pop culture was a lot less money-oriented then, too (think grunge, vintage clothing, etc.) So have things changed or have I become less naive?

  40. What the bloody hell are seven jeans and why does anyone care?

    They’re jeans. They have a cool, distinctive design on the back pocket. They supposedly make your ass look good. And they cost upwards of $150.

    7s were the first of a new breed of designer jeans. They’re great, because they combine the comfort of jeans with the hipness of exclusivity of things that most people can’t afford.

    Given the vast array of fashion mags, and the limited articles of clothing, I’m betting you could probably find just as many citations for every year since Spandex was invented.

    I suspect that there’s absolutely no way to convince you that this isn’t true, but it isn’t true.

  41. Pink smock dresses, T-shirts emblazoned with Tinkerbells and easy-fitting overalls are giving way to skinny jeans, flounced miniskirts and fur-trimmed shrugs just like mommy’s. And second graders are swapping their knee socks for leggings.

    Back in the dark, dark days of 1991/92, I bought leggings because that’s what the girls in the Baby-Sitters Club wore. To pretend that little girls were ever innocent of fashion is ludicrous–the only real difference between the profiled girls and my prepubescent self is that my shopping was limited to JCPenney and Sears.

  42. I think a lot of this has to do not just with the children’s own desire to fit in or the pressure they are each feeling from classmates and peers to be cool, but also with an increasing trend in children-as-accessories. Parents, after all, are ultimately responsible (as many of the commenters have pointed out) for what their children are exposed to. And if Mommy spends all her time shopping and dressing up her little girl and taking her places to show her off, what other message can you expect her to receive? Kids aren’t allowed to just be kids, because they are being forced to enact the role of living status symbol.

    I worked at a private school for some time that was very progressive, and yet I can’t tell you how often we had parents who were more concerned about getting clothing with the school’s logo on it (so they could show everyone how much they spent on their kid’s education) than they were about what their child was actually learning.

    It’s the next natural step in the evolution of consumer culture. Kids, after all, cost more than cars– you should have something to show for it, right?

  43. Re: leggings.

    I am not at all a fashionista, and not just because the clothes don’t fit me. I just don’t care about what’s in and what’s out at any given moment, though I’m aware enough to know when something looks dated. I don’t read fashion mags, though I do watch What Not To Wear (they’re very good about advice about fits and cuts).

    But I live in New York, which means I see people wearing the latest trend all the time. And leggings, after years of being a no-no, are back. This year. They’re everywhere on young women.

    And so are the shorts — which are not just any shorts, but shorts in menswear fabrics that are somewhat like Bermuda shorts but with no flare. Hardly anyone can pull those things off; they’re pretty hard-core fashionista.

    I’m surprised the kid wasn’t asking for gauchos, since those are also suddenly everywhere — and they look good on even fewer bodies than the damn shorts.

  44. As a parent of a two year old boy, I can feel this coming on – not fashionable jeans, but firstly the ‘branded’ things (Bob the Builder, Wiggles etc) which we don’t buy, we don’t watch, but because he goes to daycare, he points it out in the shops. And as was pointed out above, soon it will be doing the ‘cool’ sports, so he can fit in. As a parent you do walk a fine line between ‘no, you are not getting that, it is ridiculous to pay $x for something’ and remembering what a hard time you had as a kid being teased for not having cool stuff. And I WAS teased. A lot. And my husband remembers even in highschool being beat up for wearing the wrong shoes. And this was in a not-so-well-to-do public school, not a rich kid private school.
    Yes, it is the parents. Especially at such a young age. But please remember what it was like to be a teen, and then take five years off that age, and you have the pressure kids are under today, not just girls. Do you have the right mobile phone? (and don’t get me started on young kids having phones). Do you have an X-Box or a Play Station? What are those crap shoes you are wearing? I am not saying parents have to automatically give in and give their kid everything they want – that is just setting the kid up for major problems later on. But just remember that it is a bit more complex than ‘Just say no, your kid will thank you when they are 30.’

  45. Okay, lots to respond to.

    Let me start with this. I wasn’t able to read the entire article these excerpts came from, no link or reference, and my guess is it comes from the NYT and is behind their wall. BUT, in the pieces I have read, Maisy’s state of mind is not addressed. There is no distinction between shorts and formal shorts, no distinction between leggings which are available in every children’s section in mid-range and budget stores and leggings that are th in look this year.

    Here’s what I can surmise: the parents and girls interviewed really care a lot about clothes. And they have sufficient money to spend on specific insanely expensive choices. That may be distasteful to me, and it is, but it isn’t a problem.

    Children are marketed to directly for a variety of items, and are actively incouraged to nag their parents until they get what they want. That is a porblem, but not one addressed in these excerpts, and presumably not why Jill was sad.

    The author of the piece does get seriously moralistic about what the kids today are wearing, and is basically crying “slut.” Other comments here have seemed to share that position, that the clothes young girls wear are slutty, although no one has stated exactly that.

    What I’m saying is, that for the author and others to decide that specific articles of clothing are innappropriate, such as skinny-legged jeans, is exactly the sort of statement that grown women are fighting. Siding with knee socks over leggings in a general way, for other people’s kids, is not something we should be doing.

  46. Other comments here have seemed to share that position, that the clothes young girls wear are slutty, although no one has stated exactly that.

    Okay, fine, the clothes are slutty. But that’s not why I object to this. These girls aren’t wearing these clothes because they’re comfortable, or because they’re attractive (they often look goofy on everyone, especially kids), or because they want to be genuinely sexy. (They may want to be sexy as long sexy=cool, or when sexy= the center of attention, but they aren’t looking to be making out with Bobby behind the monkey bars). They’re wearing these clothes because someone else told them they had to in order to be cool. Someone else being the fashion industry, which has just one interest, keeping the self esteem of these girls contingent on what they buy and wear.

  47. It’s a depressing picture because she really should be surrounded by pets or toys or sports equipment or other fun things to do. That’s not a little kid — that’s a mini adult. There’s no childhood in that picture.

  48. Agreed with most of the above. I’m not sure it’s just “kids today” though. When I was in first grade (1985-86), this girl with country-club parents told me that I couldn’t be cool because “I didn’t wear the right kind of clothes–cool clothes.” She was able to rank the girls in the class from coolest to least coolest, and even came right outand told girls they were “ugly.” Most of the time she wore Esprit and Benetton, and had at least $50 worth of clothes on her every day. At 6.

  49. Julie – KMart actually has a nice line of Sesame Street clothes. I hate shopping there, but I used to buy the Sesame stuff for my boys when there were little.

    Here’s another reason I’m lucky I have boys. They wear hand-me-downs and they like them, mainly because they idolize the older boys they get them from. Even if I had girls, though, they’d be getting the hand-downs and thrift store clothes. I’m solidly middle-class, but I can’t afford to be buying expensive clothes that only last a season before growing out of them. Especially with little kids, they grow out before the clothes even look used – I don’t think my kids had any completely new clothes for the first four years of their lives, and they still always looked good.

  50. That’s not a little kid — that’s a mini adult.

    Beyond that, it’s a mini adult-with-severely-unhealthy-priorities.

  51. For me it’s not so much slut-shaming (My two year old wears halter tops, capris and bikinis during the summer, it’s too freaking hot) it’s the scary thought that my future four year old is worried about what’s in/what’s fashionable to the point that she won’t go out unless she looks cool. I grew up in the 80’s/90’s, so I remember keeping up with stupid trends, but never that young or that adamantly. I do have certain things I won’t put her in (anything with the word juicy across the butt is out) but for the most part, she wears what she wants. Today she insisted on wearing orange from head to toe, so that’s what she wore.

  52. Agreed with most of the above. I’m not sure it’s just “kids today” though. When I was in first grade (1985-86), this girl with country-club parents told me that I couldn’t be cool because “I didn’t wear the right kind of clothes–cool clothes.” Most of the time she wore Esprit and Benetton, and had at least $50 worth of clothes on her every day. At 6.

    Seriously, yes — it’s not a new thing. It’s just ratcheded up a notch.

    I’m not sure I agree that this is the end of civilization as we know it, or that this child is having her childhood destroyed — but I’m willing to bet a Mui Mui slouch bag that her mother spends a great deal of time and energy buying the ‘right’ clothes. And that, in all probability, that her mom’s main recreation is shopping, and that she goes to school with a bunch of kids whose mothers shop for recreation too. Therefore, this little girl has learnt that her main recreation — indeed, her job — is shopping. This is sad, and limiting: I assume that she’ll grow out of it, or graduate to interesting clothes.

    but to pretend that women — and men! — don’t like clothes and playing with clothes, because fashion is fun the way that music and art are, is equally sad. I loved clothes when I was in grade 2 — have vivid memories of my best and happiest clothes, all of which were, yep, trendy as stink :). I swanned around in wet look poncho, micro minis and lacy tights, looking like something out of a Mary Quant ad. I had a lovely time, thank you very much.

  53. I’d like to see kids outside running around, playing sports, creating artwork, dancing, or doing about 100 other things before shopping for kiddie couture. I’d like to see kids develop their identities based on their interests and passions, not on what brand of jeans they’re wearing.

    There is a problem with girls clothes (and shoes): that most of the available stuff that is soft and comfortable and is designed to allow free and easy movement for running, playing, climbing – it’s designated as “boys clothes”. So it’s another not-too-subtle way of saying that being active is for boys, and not for proper girls.

    Proper girls should exist instead as objects of decoration, their worth and status being judged by the extent to which they jump through the “beauty” hoops set out before them.

  54. But kid couture isn’t advertised to kids, it’s advertised to adults, primarily women.

    I agree with you to a point – HOWEVER – don’t misunderestimate the wheelings and dealings of the marketers for all these hip, stylish, costly clothes-4-kids. I want to say that it was in Fast Food Nation that he detailed how many times a kid has to beg “mommy, please!” before the parent gets sick of hearing it and caves to whatever’s being asked for.

    Actually, combine that with all these things I’ve been reading lately about how this generation of parents (I’m guessing, what, 30s to 40s) hasn’t completely grown up – we have kids that we send to school and after dinner while they’re playing video games we’re updating our iPods and buying tickets to a radiohead show kind of scenario – and there’s some very blurred lines between being a kid and being a grownup. It’s pretty easy to play on the adult with expendable cash by blurring their wants with their childrens’, etc.

  55. …and is basically crying “slut.” Other comments here have seemed to share that position, that the clothes young girls wear are slutty, although no one has stated exactly that.

    Kaethe, I don’t think a child can be “slutty,” and anyway, I don’t really believe in the term “slut” as being anything other than an insult. It’s not a qualifier. My problem is the sexualization of little girls, which is a complex and exploitative phenomenon. I could never “shame” a child for wearing a halter top, or anything else for that matter, but I could tell that the child’s parents are trying to make her look like a young woman, when she should be enjoying her childhood.

    Lipstick on a child is not slutty, no. It’s scary. It’s too grown-up. That’s what the author is getting at, in my opinion.

  56. This is not to say that halter-tops in themselves are bad. They’re great for the heat and my little cousins wear them all the time. The problem arises only when these girls are expected to act a certain way, to pay attention to the label they’re wearing, to want a pair of jeans for 150 bucks a pair, and generally become self-conscious about their looks when they’re too young to handle it or understand what’s really going on.

  57. I can’t stand it, I had to speak before I could read anymore of everyone’s very mostly right-on comments.

    As a parent of one boy and two girls, now adults, I cannot relate one wit to parents who give in to their child’s every whim. With little money, my children had to deal with what they got. Teasing, ostracization, etc. only taught them early on that many people are callous, narrow and cruel. They learned to develop a sense of self independent of consumerism and also learned the ability to see through the shallow and crass advertising and consumerism.

    I cannot understand how anyone who is aware that we live in a society in which choices are left to the individual, thinks that making their children a consumerist slave prepares them for the real world.

    Instead such children will have no skills to cope with impulse control or delaying gratification, the two most important skills in developing into a mature, responsible adult.

    But then again, tropy wives aren’t required to be mature, responsible, thinking adults.

    I raised my children to make choices in life based on good sense and judgement, delaying gratification and being damn thankful for what they had, aware that others often had even less than them. That is my responsibility as a parent.

    That the NYT would even entertain such an article shows to me, just how far from reality a large majority of our society is.

  58. What is so terribly sad about that picture to me: That child is insulated from the world, from the life she was meant to be living with vigor, by a pile of expensive fashionable crap.

    She reminds me of the only child of some friends of mine. (If you want to maintain your stereotypes that of course lesbians are feminist and make great moms for girls, stop reading here and skip ahead to the next comment.) Poor kid often has that look on her face when she’s getting ready to go somewhere. That’s because she gets plenty of opportunities to compare herself to the other little girls at her exclusive private school while she’s staying late so that both her moms can bill more hours this year to pay for private school.

    Recently my kid summed up this kid’s birthday party: I don’t think I’m her friend anymore, because the kids from her school aren’t nice to me or Janey because we don’t go to their school.

    Yes, the parents of these children are seriously spending 10 grand a year to teach their kids literally to discriminate based on who goes to their school. What would they say if my kid showed up at a party in the dress that she’s so proud Grandma sewed for her? I never plan to find out. We’re sheltering our kid from the reality that there are vapid, shallow people in the world as best we can.

  59. It also works the other way – I almost died today when (I’m a swimming instructor) when one of my kids – he would be about 2/3 wearing a part of speedos with ‘Chick Magnet’ written across the arse.

    Annoys the hell out of me, alone with the trend for girls learning to swim in an INDOOR POOL (no worries about skin cancer etc) wearing bikinis that require a new form of freestyle – one arm, two arm, adjust the back of the cossie, three arm, turn and breathe and ask the instructor to retie the bikini because it has come undone for the tenth time in half an hour. Or even worse, the one piece costumes that have holes specifically placed and I wonder – what the hell is the point of the holes.

    Then again, this is a kid who grew up around the water and at 20, has never owned a bikini so what would I know.

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