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A Poll

This thread has drifted into discussion over how the pronounce the name of this site. So let’s take a little vote: How do you say “Feministe”?

A. Feh-muh-neest
B. Feh-muh-neest-ay
C. Feh-muh-neest-uh
D. None of the above. Write in your pronounciation.

Tell us, folks — A,B,C, or D?

Polls close on Monday at 10pm EST. Don’t worry, we will be reporting the results.


112 thoughts on A Poll

  1. A, definitely.

    As for the pretentious perfume commercial, Margaret Cho did a bit about how her mother used to scream her Korean name over the hills, and she imagined her mother in that commercial with a bunch of other Korean ladies opening the shutters and screaming her name.

    I have other reasons for finding that very amusing — Margaret Cho’s Korean name, not the commercial thing — but I’ll be coy.

  2. A. It actually never occurred to me that there might be another way of pronouncing it.

  3. A

    People who pick C are probably thinking of the Clash album, Feminista!

    😉

  4. A!

    This discussion is making me think of the blog fe-muh-nist, or however it’s written (I don’t read it, I just see it mentioned on here).

  5. Screw you, ballgame. I’m going to have the refrain of “Washington Bullets”, but with feminista replacing Sandinista, in my head all night.

  6. Dragonsmilk, if’n you want to get an answer, you’ll have to stop being a lurker.

    See how easy?

  7. D: Feh-m’-nihs-tə. Which is close to C, but the cued speech in me is rising up and rebelling against the side of me that wants to say, “eh, it’s phonetics. Close enough”.

    Hmm … I wonder how many readers here have UTF-8 capable browsers/operating systems and can see that schwa? How ’bout IPA? Okay, I’ll shut up now.

  8. I choose A. I’ve always thought of the final e as being silent.

    This may be a dumb question, but does the name of this blog come from the french word fĂ©ministe? I’ve always wondered about this.

  9. B – as Hugo said, why have the ‘e’ there if you’re not going to pronounce it? Of course, that’s going w/ the spanish rather than the french pronounciation

  10. Hmm 
 I wonder how many readers here have UTF-8 capable browsers/operating systems and can see that schwa?

    I can see it! In Firefox.

    But how did you make it?

  11. My name is often mispronounced:

    Mar coat

    Mar cot eeee

    At which point I have to buckle down and admit it. “FUCKING A, IT’S FRENCH, ALRIGHT? I’M A GODAMNED FROG, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY?”

    Anyway, my point is that we should pronouce the word “fĂ©ministe” properly, in order to pay tribute to one of my favorite feminists, the French philosopher Simone de Beauvoir.

  12. Oh, and in case you’re wondering, it rhymes with “far hot” as in “er than Wonkette and her frigging prison tattoos and her inability to grasp the genius that is Colbert, who is also strutting around with a froggy name.”

  13. At which point I have to buckle down and admit it. “FUCKING A, IT’S FRENCH, ALRIGHT? I’M A GODAMNED FROG, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY?”

    Pronounced, “It’s French. Bitch.”

  14. Well, I’ve never said it aloud, but when I’m mentally reading it to myself, it’s either A or C depending.

  15. I admit it, I cheated. Went to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa and copied & pasted. But OS X has a nice unicode-inserting keyboard that you can bring up onscreen, and in HTML, you can insert funky stuff like that as a character entity.

    Actually, now that I think of it, I’m not positive that schwa is unicode – might be in ISO-whatever. But there’s a good chance of it. [GEEK OUT]

  16. B, sort of. I’ve always thought of it as fem-in-east-eh (wow, that looks weird.)

  17. D

    The first time I came here I saw an extra imaginary i in the name. It took me months to notice that it was not there. To this day, I still call it Femin-i-site. Even though I know that is not what it is.

  18. Definitely A. Hadn’t thought of the others.
    Wonder if A choosers have some connection with French or took in in school (I’m Canadian, and had to take 6 years of French) and C choosers have a connection to or took Spanish in school.

  19. C, and that’s because Tapetum told me about this blog and that’s the way she says it, and I’m just a follower.

  20. Definitely A. As for people asking “why the E if you’re not going to pronounce it?” Because if there were no “e” it would just be “feh-muh-nist,” not “feh-muh-neest.” It’s French, bee-yotch.

    And Amanda, you’re hilarious. You’ve now got me imagining a cage match between you and Ana Marie Cox. (Go Amanda!)

  21. Definitely A. As for people asking “why the E if you’re not going to pronounce it?” Because if there were no “e” it would just be “feh-muh-nist,” not “feh-muh-neest.” It’s French, bee-yotch.

    Or it could be Italian, in which case it would be Feh-muh-nee-stay. Fucking francophiles. Why do you hate America?

  22. A, and what the hell is wrong with people that they would consider any other pronunciation in the first place? How about that Doo-say dot com, huh? I was talking to my friend Christeen-ay the other day about this arteest-ay we both know and–honestly, just embrace the silent “e” already and quit pronouncing everything like Pig Latin for morons.

  23. Kinda like A, but I never thought of that middle syllable to sound like “muh”. My first language is spanish, so I pronounce it “feh-me-neeest”.

    And I also have trouble with people mispronouncing my last name. Spanish surname with 2 consonants and 4 vowels, two of them in a dipthong. I never thought it was “hard to pronounce” until I moved to the States. Go figure.

  24. D.

    “The-blog-where-Lauren-used-to-be-but-she-left-but-we-got-piny-and-
    zuzu-and-that’s-cool-and-anyway-Jill-is-still-there-plus-its-got-that-
    rocking-pic-of-the-kid-with-the-shotgun-and-thanks-to-my-sieve-like-
    brain-I-can’t-remeber-the-name-of-anything-but-that’s-what-bookmarks-
    are-for-damn-it!”

  25. C – Since the female person is carrying a gun, I figured it was supposed to sound like Sandinista. You know, revolutionaries and everything.

    And ballgame, I like the Clash album also. So, that’s as good a reason as any.

  26. A. I pronounce it like the Freedom way. B would be Spanish, and C would be Portuguese, non/no/nĂŁo?

  27. I’m going to vote B, although I really pronounce it more like the “fem-in-east-eh” and “fem-ih-nee-stay” that a couple of other posters came up with. I guess I’m leaning towards the Spanish angle.

    PS. Pronounce ‘Pacian’ however the hell you want.

  28. I’m a lurker, I vote A and I want to protest being called a lurker. Am I lurking when I read The New York Times? I understand the wonderful give and take possible on blogs, but those of us who stand in wonder at the incisive prose and the original thought and in-depth research are not the moral equivalent of people who stand behind trees and crouch in bushes. Just because I can’t think of anything to say at whatever hour I get a chance to visit, except “You go, girl!” doesn’t make me someone who wears a shady-brim hat and holds the newspaper in front of my face. Can’t I be a loyal and faithful reader? Who occasionally sends a heartfelt missive to some of the people who make her life less lonely, more informed and inspired? O.K., end of rant. And oh yeah, A.

  29. A is probably the closest to how I pronounce it. I am notorious for pronouncing things wrong though.

  30. Gordon: IPA? Great. It’s decent as a transcription system and great as a beer… but (speaking for others, I assume), I don’t have any lax vowels on my keyboard, so I don’t really know where that’s going to get us.

    Well done on the schwa, though. “But OS X has a nice unicode-inserting keyboard that you can bring up onscreen” — yes, and SIL has a keyboard layout you can install that comes with a PDF showing what mod keys do what. It’s a real timesaver for any major data entry work.

    Also, according to Wikipedia, all the IPA-ish stuff including schwa comes after U+0100 (schwa = U+018F), so it’s truly in the UTF realm.

    ….

    And coming down of that dorky high-horse, um, it’s pronounced like C primarily because that’s how I say it. But also because I consistently vote for the loser in an election.

  31. A times a million. Any other answer is dumb and wrong.

    Yo, chumps, if it was Spanish, it would be Feminista. All words that end in “ist” in English take an A in Spanish. Sandinista. Socialista. Zapatista.

    In German, it would be pronounced more like C than any of the others. But then, feminist is “die Frauenrechtlerin” in German.

  32. The French word would be FĂ©ministe (feh-mee-NIST), singular, same form for both masculine and feminine.

    like Jill said, “Feministe” (without the ‘Ă©’) looks more Italian: feh-mee-NEES-teh, feminine plural.

  33. Oh good, I’m not the only one who thought it was French. In my head it’s something like fay-mee-neest, for lack of a better representation of the phonemes (or IPA).

  34. Oh good, I’m not the only one who thought it was French. In my head it’s something like fay-mee-neest, for lack of a better representation of the phonemes (or IPA).

  35. like Jill said, “Feministe” (without the â€˜Ă©â€™) looks more Italian: feh-mee-NEES-teh, feminine plural.

    It’s been a while since I studied French (high school), but as far as I recall, they don’t put accents on capital letters, only on lowercase letters. So the lack of an accent on the “e” doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not French, since the heading is in all caps.

    And I’m only pointing this out because I hate America. Vive la France!

    (Doesn’t the progenitor of this blog know the real answer?)

  36. Ooops, I saw I forgot to place my pronounciation:

    Fea-mee-nis-teh , where the “e” in “teh” sounds like a lenghtened “e” in “level”. But don’t mind anyway, I’m german. 😉

  37. raging red,

    While optional, putting the accents on capital letters is quite possible, and sometimes recommended in French: for instance, you can write either ‘Emile’ or ‘Émile’. The French version of MS Word has a default “Majuscules accentuĂ©es” option.

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