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Hamas Continues Its Hard Line

Well this will ruin your morning.

The exiled political head of the radical Islamic group Hamas said Saturday in Damascus that the group would adopt “a very realistic approach” toward governing the Palestinian Authority and would work with the Fatah president, Mahmoud Abbas, on an acceptable political program.

But the leader, Khaled Meshal, also said that Hamas would not “submit to pressure to recognize Israel, because the occupation is illegitimate and we will not abandon our rights,” nor would it disarm, but work to create a unified Palestinian army.


Not recognizing Israel = really, really bad move.

I can understand the frustration of many Palestinians. They’ve been a people without a country for decades now; many of them were driven from their homes and into refugee camps; they’ve been living with on-and-off access to basics like electricity, running water and medical care; and they have no certainty about their future. Israel has an organized, state-sponsored army with tanks, intelligence and sophisticated weaponry; Palestinians have whatever they can smuggle in. While it would certainly be nice if they would disarm, I can see how, from their view, that seems like an unfair request, and one that will be detrimental to their cause.

I can also see how there appears to be a major imbalance of power between Israel and Palestine, and how the word “terrorist” may seem to be unfairly applied. Why are Palestinians who kill civilians “terrorists,” while Israeli soldiers who kill civilians aren’t? Is it simply state sponsorship that moves an individual away from the “terrorist” categorization?

I don’t think so. Let me first be clear that I take deep issue with many, many of the government-sanctioned actions perpetuated by the Israeli army. Israel goes too far, too often in the name of national security. But a major difference is that Israel isn’t targeting civilian populations for random killings. Civilians are certainly killed in Israeli actions, and that fact shouldn’t be overlooked. But the purpose of suicide bombing has nothing to do with killing enemy combatants, and everything to do with striking fear into the hearts of an entire population, and viewing every individual within that population as an enemy in the fight. There is a moral difference between suicide bombing and state-sanctioned acts of war, and I don’t believe that such a moral difference relies solely on the existance of the state itself.

However, I also believe that a tactic like suicide bombing is inherently an act of desperation. I don’t buy the story that young people are willing to blow themselves up simply for the promise of a Paradise full of virgins. People who feel that their lives have promise will simply not be susceptible to even the most enticing promises, if the realization of those promises is contingent on their bloody death. There are a lot of things going on here, and it’s nowhere near as simple as “Israel is an occupying bully and that’s the problem” or “Palestinians are animals who are willing to kill themselves simply in the name of Jihad” or “The entire region is fucked and we should just give up on them.”

There is no perfect solution, but there are options. The election of Hamas was, in my opinion, a set-back in the path toward finding some of these options, but we’ve gotta work with it — just like Hamas has to work with the fact that Israel exists, it has a right to exist, and it isn’t going to go away.

“It’s a revolutionary situation,” said Yossi Alpher, co-editor of bitterlemons.org, an Israeli-Palestinian journal. “This is the first time that the Muslim Brotherhood or any Islamic group has been elected to run an Arab polity, and there are no real precedents. Are we looking at a hard-core movement that may make some tactical gestures but remains totally committed to destroying Israel and transforming Palestinian society, or are they pragmatists and will change these beliefs?”

Unfortunately, he said, “I think we have to take Hamas at its words and assume that as Islamists, they have some core beliefs that won’t change.”

But didn’t everyone assume that the PLO wouldn’t change, either? Wasn’t Ariel Sharon clear that the best Israeli policy was to use the settlements as a buffer area to protect the nation, and that Israel would never clear them? It takes time, but ideals shift when pragmatism demands it. I obviously don’t feel great about this situation, but I’m retaining a little bit of optimism. But then, there are many things which threaten this optimism:

The 9,000-word Hamas charter, written in 1988, is explicit about the struggle for Palestine as a religious obligation. It describes the land as a “waqf,” or endowment, saying that Hamas “believes that the land of Palestine has been an Islamic waqf throughout the generations and until the Day of Resurrection, no one can renounce it or part of it, or abandon it or part of it.”

In the charter, Hamas describes itself as “a distinct Palestinian Movement which owes its loyalty to Allah, derives from Islam its way of life and strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.”

It calls for the elimination of Israel and Jews from Islamic holy land and portrays the Jews as evil, citing an anti-Semitic version of history going back to the Crusades. It also includes a reference to the noted czarist forgery of a plan for world domination, “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” and condemnation of supposedly Zionist organizations like the Rotary Club and the Masons.

It describes the struggle against the Jews as a religious obligation for every Muslim, saying, “For our struggle against the Jews is extremely wide-ranging and grave, so much so that it will need all the loyal efforts we can wield, to be followed by further steps and reinforced by successive battalions from the multifarious Arab and Islamic world, until the enemies are defeated and Allah’s victory prevails.”

That is not promising.

As Mr. Zahar also said, “We do not recognize the Israeli enemy, nor his right to be our neighbor, nor to stay, nor his ownership of any inch of land.”

Nor is any Hamas leader on record as expressing a willingness to disarm or to stop attacks on Israel and Israelis, or to make a distinction between Israeli soldiers and civilians, especially settlers living on occupied land, however defined.

This is a major problem. Obviously. And we are in sticky moral terrority when we’re dealing with a politcal party which views soldiers and civilians as one and the same.

You can call me Pollyanna, but I still really believe that the election of Hamas has far more to do with the corruption and stagnation of Fatah than it does an actual belief in the principles that Hamas espouses. Hamas was able to provide Palestinians with the basic necessities that they weren’t getting anywhere else, and they ran more on a promise of “mani puliti” than Israeli destruction. Others are also optimistic.

Anyway, I obviously haven’t sorted my thoughts out very well. Cross your fingers that it’ll get better. But I’m considering doing a guest blogger project on this issue. If you’d be interested in posting something, email me.


34 thoughts on Hamas Continues Its Hard Line

  1. and how the word “terrorist” may seem to be unfairly applied. Why are Palestinians who kill civilians “terrorists,” while Israeli soldiers who kill civilians aren’t? Is it simply state sponsorship that moves an individual away from the “terrorist” categorization?

    The logic is very simple:

    Intent.

    If an Israeli soldier kills a civilian intentionally, that soldier is a criminal subject to prosecution. It would even be fair to characterize the soldier as a “terrorist.” But most killings of civilians by Israelis – killings which are overstated in number and possibly just made up – are accidental. This is not to say no abuses or crimes happen, but they are by-in-large antithetical to Israel’s policy, not embodiments of it.

    In contrast, Palestinian terrorists mostly try and kill civilians. Often children.

    There is a grey area in this moral calculus, which I think plays against the Israelis: when Israel targets terrorist leaders with missiles in areas known to be heavily populated by civilians. While the civilians aren’t targets, the possibility of collateral damage is very high, and Israel loses moral high ground when any are killed.

    Despite this, declared equivalence between Israel’s efforts against terrorist organizations like Hamas, and Hamas’s efforts to send human bombs into civilian settings – purposefully detonating nail bombs to kill children – is a moral calculus which does not sum to zero. Not by a long shot.

  2. Before you write about this subject, you should really do some research. It is a well established fact that Israel quite regularly targets civilians. You may not read that in Newsweek, but it’s true nonetheless.

  3. Bill-

    Did you read the whole post? Because I answered that question.

    Dadahead-

    I don’t think I said that Israel never targets civilians, but it certainly cannot be said that they equivocate Palestinian civilians with enemy combatants. There is a difference there.

    Could you provide links for this well-established fact? I’m not saying that I don’t believe/agree with you, just asking for more info.

  4. If you fire on an apartment block filled with civilians, only the nievest idiot would think that they’re not going to hit a civilian, especially when you’re in a tank for pete’s sake.

    the IDF has a low casualty rate because it uses excessive force, from a long distance away, at a target area full of civilians, for what? revenge basically, because you cannot say at this point that the IDF’s post-suicide bombing attacks are an attempt by them to quell future attacks, when it’s rocket strikes being thrown at isreal, fair enough, but to respond with the overwhelming force they do after a suicide attack, what the hell sort of stupid, petty, murderous thing is that?

    Oh and another point, you say “running water”, I would have just said “water”, isreal essentially steals most of the water from palestine for its own use and gives palestine a liquid pittence, if that. water rights are a serious bone of contention between the two peoples.

    Let’s not forget either that isreal has literally no one but itself to blame for hamas getting so popular, isreal was the one who has from the start done everything in its power to supress civil jihad with assassinations, deportations, arrests and god knows what else. if isreal hadn’t been such ass monkeys during the 90’s, hamas would not have won today (of course, knowing the methods of torture and terror hamas uses on palestinians (I’ve seen the scars of their victims, and hamas makes the eastern european partisans look mild mannered and pacifist) You can never be too sure of that).

    The worst trouble is that the whole conflict needs a total change in leaderships on both sides and policies towards each other so that something new can be hashed out, and hamas getting elected is pretty much more of the same. Plus they seem to be heading towards the age old pattern of “freedom fighters” turning slowly but surely towards being an organised crime syndicate. just wait until isreal starts up another major couple month long offensive after declaring the elections “invalid” or whatever, then it’ll be all back to “normal”, but with the whole new post-9/11 suicide bomber obsession on the palestinians’ part. Goddamn Osama bin laden.

  5. Jill

    Scroll down and you’ll find Blitzer’s interview with Zahar here.

    I do hope you lose the “Pollyanna” because as painful as it was, the election of Hamas was a rare moment of political reality.

    The majority “Palestinians” support the annihiliation of Israel and driving the Jews into the sea. To support “Palestinians” is to agree with that goal. No ifs, ands, or buts.

    Also understand the Hamas charter is committed to recapture of the Waqf. Spain should pay attention.

  6. Did you read the whole post? Because I answered that question

    .

    No. Too many “words.” I sped-read right over that paragraph.

    Call me a jack-ass. Go ahead. I’m ok with it. Really.

    I’ll do it myself:

    “You jackass.”

    You can do it too. If you want.

  7. Darleen, do you have polling that shows majority support among Palestinians for eliminating Israel?

    Do you conclude that the majority of the United States wants to eliminate legal abortion in virtually all circumstances because the last election went to the Republicans?

  8. If you fire on an apartment block filled with civilians, only the nievest idiot would think that they’re not going to hit a civilian

    Combatants have a responsibility not to hide among civilians and to wear uniforms for exactly this reason. Hamas intentionally hides so Israel is forced to attack an populated area. Israeli military, on the other hand, doesn’t hang out among civilians. You can’t tell me that when Hamas blows up a bus, they were really aiming for military targets.
    But what do you expect Israel to do when it locates leaders of these groups? If you think Israel uses excessive force, please enlighten us as to how you would go about peacefully capturing armed, ununiformed militants who are willing to die as long as some civilians go with them.

    just wait until isreal starts up another major couple month long offensive after declaring the elections “invalid” or whatever

    If your neighbors openly declared their intention to kill you, showed their resolve by blowing up malls, clubs, and restaurants, wouldn’t you try to kill them?

  9. BTW Thomas

    Hamas Charter. The obliteration of Israel and Jews is Hamas’ raison d’etre. Abortion is only a plank in the Republican party. (and another inconvenient fact is that the majority of Americans DO favor a much more restrictive abortion policy then what is current)

  10. So, Darleen, that’s a no? All you can do is stand on your assertion that the electoral victory necessarily implies support for the organization’s goal? You believe on that basis alone that it is inconceivable that the majority recognized this as a Hobson’s choice between the fanatics and the thieves?

  11. Thomas, I think the burden lies on you here. The first-approximation reality check is that if I vote for Republicans, it’s because I like what they have to say.

    If you want to argue that I didn’t vote for Republicans because I like them, but because my uncle was a Democrat and never made good on his promise to take me to Disneyland, or some other facially plausible but less direct explanation, then you’re the one who needs to come up with the peer-reviewed study.

    Besides, your alternative hypothesis isn’t that compelling. When the organizing principle of a party is “kill the Jews, smash Israel”, and they win popular support, popular discontent with the corruption of the other party isn’t really a good explanation.

  12. Thomas

    Hamas election is just the underlining of a culture that lionizes murderers (naming streets and kids soccer teams for ’em) and has educated it’s own children into rote “Kill the Jew” recitations.

    There is not a thing about Hamas that is about accepting Jews anywhere, let alone in the ME. And maybe you missed it, but Hamas is pretty clear about ANY land in the WORLD that is Islamic Waqf.

    I do understand the bitter disappointment when wishful thinking is dashed by reality. But there you go.

  13. Jill, it sounds like this will become a very contentious issue (as Israel always is) on your blog if you choose to continue frequently posting about it. If you really would like a guest blogger, I know someone interested. Credentials: very knowledgeable/invested in the situation and far left in terms of the Palestinian cause yet pro-Israel due to Jewish upbringings. Shalom v’Salam, Kate

  14. First of all Darleen, in this case I’m not engaged in any “wishful thinking.” Actually, I hate Hamas and I think this will collapse and ultimately Israel will have to shoot them all and it will set the Palestinians back tremendously. I’m a big fan, as one Orthodox friend puts it, of “Jews practising Judaism.” The guy in the office next to me is an Orthodox Jew. The guy who signs my paycheck is an Orthodox Jew. The majority of my partners in the practice of law are Jews, and the two guys who stood next to me when I married my wife are Jews. So your snide remark as though I’m some naive Hamas apologist is completely wide of the mark, without foundation, nasty and insulting.

    However, there are two explanations out there as to why Hamas won the election. It may well be that there’s a majority for pushing Israel into the sea, or maybe just a strong bloc aided by folks who voted for Hamas for other reasons. Your assumption based on the election alone that there’s a majority for the goals of Hamas may be correct, but it certainly isn’t necessarily true. As you said, Hamas are Islamist nuts who want to take over Davenport, Iowa. You don’t think this election is a mandate for Hamas to declare war on the U.S. and take over Iowa, do you?

    Robert, since you accuse people of anti-semitism merely because they oppose not even Israeli policy but US support for Israeli policy, I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think on the subject.

  15. People vote for candidates for all kinds of reasons that don’t necessarily hold up in the long run. I mean, look at George Bush — he got, what, 51% of the vote in the election and his approval ratings have gone as low as 36% to a current high of about 42% now?

    The recent Canadian election is instructive. I’m sure that Canadians have not abandoned their liberal impulses or embraced GWB, but rather that they’re in “throw the bums out” mode after many, many years of Liberal rule and a recent corruption scandal. Fatah has been corrupt for many, many years and have not delivered on their promises. Hamas represents change. Let’s not forget, these are people who don’t even have the basic services (which, let’s be honest, is one huge reason the US is none too popular in Iraq and the people are looking to other alternatives). Fatah had promised them that, and didn’t deliver, and in the meantime, Arafat’s widow is living quite well in Paris. Why the hell shouldn’t they give Hamas a chance?

    One thing you’ll see, though, is that Hamas will probably become less radicalized when they start having to govern. Which is exactly what a lot of revolutionary movements find when they find themselves as the establishment instead of fighting the establishment.

  16. What I can’t really believe is that the Hamas victory came as such a surprise. It must have been wishful thinking, or hallucination, on the part of the administration. I agree with what zuzu said; Palestinians got tired of hearing what a great opportunity they had after Arafat died, and watching it be wasted on a corrupt and ineffective old guard. Hamas had already been delivering services within Palestine. People knew Hamas because they helped to provide some basic services. I think that that’s why they voted for Hamas, not necessarily for the “kick out the Jews” platform, which is indeed odious.

    But do you think that being a part of legitimate government (despite what we may think of them, they were actually democratically elected, and that’s just how democracy works) may moderate them? That was a lot of the talk before the election, when folks argued back and forth about whether Hamas should even stand for elections. I worry that the ultra-hard line the administration is taking may spoil that opportunity, if it was one.

  17. I find it difficult to argue this point, at least right now:

    Hamas will probably become less radicalized when they start having to govern (zuzu).

    Hamas grew in popularity by tuning itself to the thoughts, feelings, and basic human needs of a dislocated people living in poverty and lacking human rights – not to old white men thousands of miles away. In this social welfare capacity, they often succeeded when Fatah failed. The party leaders know that maintaining power will take place by attending to populist concerns – not necessarily what an American calls moderation, but, again, most live in shit while we sit in thrones of suburban sprawl (***suicide bombings are a sideshow, not to be neglected, but – as “outsiders” – to be equivocated with Israel’s own dirty work***).

    The United States government has a great chance to prove to the world that it actually supports democracy here. Eliminating foreign aid will not only allow Syria and Iran to fill the vacuum, but throw Palestinians further into poverty (and kill Israelis in return). By cutting out Fatah, Condi can negotiate directly with Hamas for the elimination of suicide bombings in return for an INCREASE in aid. It is most important to remember that Hamas stands primarily for its people and not necessarily dead Israelis. And the people are concerned with feeding their families and living with just a little bit of dignity. Maybe I’m simplifying this situation too much, but it seems almost too easy (if it wasn’t for that damn Zionist lobby)….

  18. Good luck Jill, if you continue to blog on this subject, because you’ll need it. I too, made an effort to learn as much about this subject, primarily because so many of my friends were very passionate about it. I got so sick of heated, hateful discussions, that I don’t like discussing the subject any more.

    That’s why I hate to say that I’m in the “let’s just not get involved” camp. We make so many enemies around the world for our involvement that I don’t think it’s worth the harm to the United Stattes to get involved. Let’s not support Israel or any Palestinian government.

    Btw, I agree with almost everything in your post. I think you should stop right there. Any further learning on the subject will just involve more heat than light, and you will just end up feeling disgusted by the hatred on both sides.

  19. your viewpoint on shutting out debates on the Palestine/Israel situation has good cause.. man, what horrible agression i’ve experienced over this matter (as an activist)

    however

    no discussion / debate is the best possible means of granting permission and implicate oneself as a bystander

    i’d prefer to take the heat /accept the consequences a being a participating voice – as opposed to accepting responsibility for what can otherwise only be interpretted as apathetic cruelty

    if we don’t stand upon just principals and values for all humanity (whether speaking too of Palestine or Israel, or any other nation’s peoples), we are in so much as abdicating the right to our own

  20. Shit.

    Before I say anything else about this, I want to apologize to Jill for being pointlessly harsh and assholish in my original comment.

    There’s something about this issue that makes me respond very emotionally, and sometimes I respond without really thinking first, and end up just being a dick.

    I’m sorry.

  21. I was worried that one day you would choose to tackle something squarely outside of the realm of women’s rights, and then your liberal colors would show more offensively. I can’t really object beyond saying that you’re wrong, don’t know what you’re talking about, and should not post on this subject again. That said, it’s not out of line with your apparent political views. To talk of a moral difference between Israel and Hamas–and come down on the side of Israel–is shockingly ignorant. Unlike Dadahead, I’m not worried about sounding like an asshole. It’s moment like this when my despair becomes most acute, but oh well. I’ll keep reading for the decent feminist work you do, and keep my fingers crossed that you’ll read a book or two before making any more pronouncements on the fate of a desperate people.

  22. Oh…-

    I don’t think I came down on the “side” of Israel. I’m not sure that this issue even divides cleanly into sides. I said there’s a moral difference between the actions of the Israeli army and the actions of suicide bombers. That doesn’t mean that the Israeli army is morally righteous. I think the Israeli government and military is thoroughly fucked; I think that the Palestinian people have been horribly abused, and I said in the post that I can understand their anger and desperation. I just refuse to reduce the issue down to “Israel is wrong and that’s that.” I don’t think it’s that simple. Recognizing complexities doesn’t mean that I don’t also recognize the egregious human rights violations that Palestinians have suffered. I think if you go back and read my post, you’ll see that I’m not coming down on one side or the other; I probably do come across as more “pro-Israeli” than anything else, but that’s more because I’m trying to explore and pick apart my gut instinct — which is to relate to the Palestinians — than anything else. I also know what it’s like to see terrorism first-hand, and to fear being attacked by a person who appears to be a civilian. So I can understand the Israeli fear of being blown up on a bus or in a cafe.

    That doesn’t mean that I can’t also understand — or at least try to understand and comprehend — the Palestinian anger at being driven off of their land and kept in refugee camps, and the fear of being shot and killed or crushed by a tank. I think the situation is bad on all sides. In the post, I was just looking at one bit of that badness (and, of course, there are gradients of badness within the problem).

    As for “you should not post on this subject again,” sorry, but it’s my blog and I’ll post on what I want to. I have read a few books in my life, thanks. And I’m not sure where I made any “pronouncements” about anyone.

  23. Also, the rights of Palestinian women *are* women’s rights. The rights of Israeli and Jewish women *are* women’s rights. The rights of Palestinian Christian women facing possible curtailment of secularization, in which women are always first to suffer, are women’s rights. Feminism does not end at the shoreline.

  24. That doesn’t mean that the Israeli army is morally righteous. I think the Israeli government and military is thoroughly fucked

    Jill, it’s important to note what standard you’re using. It’s the situation that sucks but I have yet to hear of a country that’s done a better job dealing with this kind of war. How do you propose Israel secure its border and prevent would-be terrorists from entering the country while allowing Palestinians full freedom of movement? It’s not fair to blame Israel when it’s between a rock and a hard place. Ask anybody who’s served in the Israeli army and they’ll tell you about the emphasis on ethical considerations.

    Here’s an example of what I mean. At the beginning of the Intifada, an apparently-pregnant woman came to an Israeli checkpoint screaming and saying she’s going into labor. She was allowed to go through and blew herself up, killing civilians. In response, Israeli security starting checking pregnant women at checkpoints, which is obviously very uncomfortable and embarrassing. I don’t think anybody would say it’s ideal. But what would you do instead? You need to have a greater appreciation of how difficult these issues are. If you criticize, suggest something better.

  25. David-

    I hear what you’re saying, I really do. And I recognize that Israel is in a tough situation, and it’s having to make hard choices about protecting its citizens in relation to the Palestinian population. I still think that some of their tactics are reprehensible. And it should be clear from my post that I also find tactics like suicide bombing to be reprehensible.

    I don’t have perfect answers. I think that was the point that I was trying to make in the post — that this is an extremely complicated situation, and few involved are simply “good” or “evil.”

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