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From the mouths of babes (on the subject of babes)

Watching your youth and childhood fictional favorites make the transition into adulthood can be jarring sometimes. I don’t think I made it all the way to the seventh season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, because yaaawn… so bored. I didn’t like the Harry Potter epilogue. Or when Shawn-Douglas Brady got ugly in the fall of 2006. Or when the Saddle Club girls took that trip to Thailand.

It’s even worse, though, when you’re dealing with an industry that is hard enough on its characters anyway–particularly the female ones. DC Comics has stepped in it again with its relaunch of its “New 52,” now with, among other sins, all new degrading super-sexy nekkid action.

Fantasy author Michele Lee has written an open letter to DC Comics regarding the new, nakeder, booblier, no-longer-Teen Titan Starfire. But for the real commentary, she let her (super adorable) seven-year-old daughter take the reins. Mini Lee is a fan of the early-2000s Teen Titans cartoon Starfire, and this new one leaves her… underwhelmed.

On why she loves the Starfire of the original Teen Titans cartoon and comic book:

“She’s like me. She’s an alien new to the planet and maybe she doesn’t always say the right thing, or know the right thing to do. But she’s a good friend, and she helps people. She’s strong enough to fight the bad guys, even when they hurt her. Even her sister tried to kill her, but Starfire still fights for the good side. And she helps the other heroes, like Superboy and Robin and Raven.

“She’s smart too. And sometimes she gets mad, but that’s okay because it’s okay to get mad when people are being mean. And she’s pretty.”

Lee and Mini Lee discussed the rebooted Starfire, now an adult and wearing a costume that’s basically Borat’s bathing suit reinterpreted in purple PVC with thigh boots, and then hit on a series of pictures of Starfire at the beach in a minuscule purple bikini–“Well, she’s not fighting anyone. And not talking to anyone really. She’s just almost naked and posing.”

And then the question of role models:

“I want her to be a hero, fighting things and be strong and helping people.”

[Mom asks] “Why’s that?”

“Because she’s what inspires me to be good.”

Obviously, in real life, people change as they grow up, and sometimes they grow up and put on duct-tape leotards and stand around trying to show their boobs and butts at the same time. But sprouting tits and making poor fashion choices doesn’t necessitate an entire character change. If your goal is to reboot storylines and draw lapsed readers back into the fold, a detached, amnesiac, sexbottish reinterpretation of a beloved superheroine isn’t likely to do the job. At that point, you’re only striking out into a market already oversaturated with statuesque aliens wearing duct-tape leotards and showing their boobs and butts at the same time, and much of that target audience has already settled on favorite bedtime reading companions. (If your goal is to make classic characters more accessible to new readers, the new Starfire does seem to have “accessibility” written all over her.)

DC’s response was basically, “Well, that’s what you get for giving a comic book to a seven-year-old.” Missing the point. Teen Titan Starfire? Costuming and sexual proclivities aside, she wasn’t actually all that different from the more nekkid one of yore. The Starfire Mini Lee describes–who had, like, emotional connections and stuff–is, to an extent, the character core of the classic comic character. The problem isn’t dragging Starfire into and out of minimal costumes–it’s dragging her out of any characterization or personality entirely. Listen to the seven-year-old: If you’re a grownup, you can wear what you want. But if you’re a superheroine, you’re expected to fight evil and help people.

(h/t Skepchick)


11 thoughts on From the mouths of babes (on the subject of babes)

  1. Starfire was always an alien sexpot and always had an outfit like that. I’m not saying I like it, I’m saying I don’t feel like you have all the facts maybe? If anything, her new costume covers more skin than it used to because she has thigh-high boots now instead of knee-high. The early-2000s cartoon was a fun kid-friendly spin off. I watched it as a teen! I liked it, but even in that one of her main functions was to be the romantic interest of the Leader Male. Sigh.

    It’s not sad because they ruined her, it’s sad because nothing has changed in 25+ years.

    I think super-heroines with “slutty” outfits can be a subversive tool against slut-shaming as long as they are given actual thought and have real personalities in the story (especially great if they call out other characters who shame them for their clothes or bodies, etc. but you don’t see that very often.)

  2. Yeah, this is pretty much why reboots suck and why i’ve rage quit DC. I don’t care about the costumes, I mean the glorfied swimsuit is preboot (creepy Woman in Refrigerator-y subtext and all (it’s a slave outfit from when her sister caputured her)) but it’s honestly the lose of Starfire’s connections to the people around her that really costs the book.

    And I’m not quite sure but it sounds like she picked up the comic expecting it to be Teen Titans the show/Teen Titans GO! the comic and unfortunately even pre reboot that wasn’t true (as I alluded to above)

    But regardless I’ve ragequit DC, I just can’t with them currently

  3. anon:
    Starfire was always an alien sexpot and always had an outfit like that. I’m not saying I like it, I’m saying I don’t feel like you have all the facts maybe? If anything, her new costume covers more skin than it used to because she has thigh-high boots now instead of knee-high. The early-2000s cartoon was a fun kid-friendly spin off. I watched it as a teen! I liked it, but even in that one of her main functions was to be the romantic interest of the Leader Male. Sigh.

    Yeah, and that “kid-friendly” version was far more compelling and interesting than this emotionless sexpot. But either way, you’re wrong: she didn’t used to be like this. She used to know and care who people were, and she formed emotional connections with them. This new version doesn’t seem to do that.

  4. anon:
    Starfire was always an alien sexpot and always had an outfit like that. I’m not saying I like it, I’m saying I don’t feel like you have all the facts maybe? If anything, her new costume covers more skin than it used to because she has thigh-high boots now instead of knee-high. The early-2000s cartoon was a fun kid-friendly spin off. I watched it as a teen! I liked it, but even in that one of her main functions was to be the romantic interest of the Leader Male. Sigh.

    Yes, in the comics Starfire has always been a highly sexual character. But she was also out-going, open minded, flirtatious, powerful and curious. She wore her heart on her sleeve. If any comics character has been about the power you can draw from your emotions it’s Starfire. It is a totally valid argument to say that the men who created Starfire probably did because they wanted to draw an uninhibited sexy alien. But it’s also true to say that over the years she became a very well-rounded and well-loved character – her personality was a massively important aspect to her fans.

    In the reboot she’s still as uninhibited as she ever was – Starfire was always a character that loved sex – but her personality is gone. She’s being presented as a totally different character than she was before. Emotionless and non-caring is not Starfire. Plus the amnesiac aspect is very creepy. She has been reduced to her her sex and objectified. This is the problem fans have with her reboot; not because of her costume, not because she likes sex, but because she her personality has been stripped and her character used as nothing more than titillation for the presumed male reading base.

    It’s an insult to all readers.

  5. I quit superhero comics a while ago because I was sick of being bullied into every event or crossover or reboot, so I’ve only had the slightest glances at DC’s huge reboot, but this is wildly frustrating because the news I’ve heard from my local shop on a number of the books is that they’ve been more kid friendly than comics have been trending.

  6. I picked up Teen Titans after watching the cartoon as a teen and while the show was considerably milder and more kid-driven, you could still see how each character was connected to their comic book version. It was a pretty easy transition from popish kid media to the adolescent comic books which should have been DC’s ultimate goal with the relaunch. Ah well, I’m going to go back to my queer, gender-bending, different ages and body-types Runaways now.

  7. The biggest thing that comic writers need to learn is this: Make the female character heroic FIRST then make her sexy.

  8. Jen: It is a totally valid argument to say that the men who created Starfire probably did because they wanted to draw an uninhibited sexy alien. But it’s also true to say that over the years she became a very well-rounded and well-loved character – her personality was a massively important aspect to her fans.

    I think part of it might be an issue of a character getting away from her creators. They were all, “Orange alien boobies slut yaaay!” and the fans were all, “HA HA, your character has personality and complexity and emotional depth, HA!” Then the Teen Titans cartoon took away the sexual angle and just focused on the character complexity, and I don’t think DC really noticed the progression. So when the reboot came, the new folks were all, “Orange alien boobies slut, right?” And now the fans are all, “Huh?”

  9. Caperton,

    It blows my mind when the people behind creating or writing a character don’t understand what the hell fans are liking about it. I mean, it’s not like the options are only being a writer/artist who wants “Orange alien boobies slut!” or being a writer/artist who wants interesting, developed, characters; there’s a third option that’s something like, “Well, I, for one, want orange alien boobies slut, but hell, we’ll make some money if I do this whole ‘developed character’ thing.”

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