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Tuesday True Blood Roundtable: Night on the Sun

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Screencap from True Blood. In the background, Sookie is sitting on a hospital bed crying, and Bill is standing next to the door with bloody tears streaming down his face.

This week on True Blood, there was cute sex, angry sex, death sex, all kinds of sex. Other things happened to, and we invited Thomas to join us again as we contemplated where some story lines are going and what we’re loving this season. Discuss with us!

Bill and Sookie played emotional yo-yo in this episode. They break up within the first 5 minutes of the episode, and both spend much of the episode feeling awful about it. Did you sympathize?

THOMAS: I’d rather be done with them, but at least this process allows Bill’s character to develop a bit. Sookie’s not so much. She’s the nominal center of the show, but the least engaged character in some ways. I’m reserving judgment on the final scene between her and Bill; if she’s suddenly over it, I don’t buy it, but if that was a conflicted explosion of feeling arising out of a fluid situation and a near-death experience, I can buy it.

LAUREN: I’ll just say I solidly identify with Tara, having seen I don’t know how many friends loyally hold on to shitty, dangerous, abusive relationships because they heart the adrenaline. GAG. And in this case, I’d argue that this does develop Sookie, whose attachment to her saccharine good-girl persona has impeded her movement in the world of supes. I could be wrong, but I think Sookie is finally making a choice and accepting what she is and what it means. I wouldn’t advise this in the real world, but it makes for great story-telling.

SALLY: I also identified with Tara, and I was happy to see her be real with Sookie like that. And I definitely liked Bill more in this episode than I have in a while. The way he was with both Sookie and later with Jessica was interesting. We haven’t seen him be that way before, it was a good change of pace.

LAUREN: Bill and Sookie are most interesting when there is tension and anger between them. I’m beginning to wonder if the show’s insistence on keeping the two characters together in LURVE is some kind of favor they’re doing for the real-life couple (Anna Paquin and Steven Moyer), because this is bad narrative work as it is.

SALLY: In general, though, I’m completely over this couple. Unless they both really mature, then I’m happy to see them both move on.

LAUREN: I’m still not sold on Bill as a character, or as Sookie’s unmanipulated love interest. Dude gave her his blood on the first date and keeps a dossier on her family in his bureau. Anyone arguing this is true love needs a primer on abusive relationships. That said, his interactions with Jessica later were great — and it’s things like that that build the show’s vampire mythology, and thus the character (and interestingly, shadowing why Eric and Pam’s relationship is so special). Also, I miss Bill as the ridiculous geek, holed up in his mansion playing Wii Golf all night. Favorite exchange of the night: JESSICA: No way. BILL: Way.

Bill also has some one-on-one time with Jessica. He releases her but after she refuses to leave him, he gets her ready to fight werewolves and other evil folk. Were you surprised by their relationship in this episode?

THOMAS: It was the first time I’ve liked Bill in a long time. The Magister made him make a vampire so that he could be a vampire and come to terms with it, and maybe with Lorena dead and him having to face his own distant past and his attack on Sookie, he finally is doing that. Jessica is now one of my favorite characters, and seeing her head into a fight with the weres with confidence, and then finish it while injured, was great. In a few centuries, she’ll be a vamp to be reckoned with. My spouse says she and Eric should hook up, and I admit that would be picturesque, though not realistic. I expect she’ll come away from this with the confidence to go deal with Hoyt. They’re not done. Tommy will not take that well.

SALLY: Poor Tommy, I actually felt for him just a little in this episode.

THOMAS: In a major fight, Jessica and Bill looked like they could handle themselves. Sookie, ever the guppy in these things, had a shotgun and got it snatched out of her hands by a V-head wolf who meant to kill her and was standing right there. That’s the major problem with Sookie. She’s formidible enough that she invades Eric Northman’s dreams, but she can’t protect herself even when she has the tools and the opportunity? Bullshit. If the writers want us to believe that Sookie is the woman Bill and Eric believe she is, they are going to actually have to make her that woman.

LAUREN: Agreed, hands down. To date she’s been all bark, and it was only the fight with Debbie Pelt that convinced me she has any real bite in her.

SALLY: I still don’t understand how that scene even made sense. Who on earth would actually just let somebody get away like that? I would at least injure them since they’re there to, you know, KILL me! Shoot her leg or something, Sookie! It was so stupid and I was annoyed the whole time.

LAUREN: I… kind of liked it. Granted there was a lot of hair swinging for my taste, but they fought like equals and Sookie was victorious while the show was still able to extend the plot line another few weeks. This was the turning point for Sookie — nobody hopped in and saved her, she held her own, and she won the battle. She also maintains the moral high ground by letting Debbie walk as a testament to her loyalty to Alcide.

SALLY: Well, I was fine with them actually fighting that way, but Sookie saying “one more step and I’ll shoot” (or whatever derivative of that) and then not shooting was wack. And then when she’s all “get out of my house bitch… next time I won’t miss,” take a shot or something. Shoot her arm! Leg! Something! Maybe that’s just me…

LAUREN: Or slice her face open with shears? Giving our antagonist the nastiest scar OF ALL TIME? Time out to remind the not-watching audience how campy this show is.

SALLY: That was the highlight of the scene, really.

Tara is a mess at the moment. She’s having dreams about Franklin, she won’t tell anybody what happened, but she does try to talk sense into Sookie about staying away from Bill. Do you think things will get worse for her before they get better?

THOMAS: I would rather not see Tara’s thousand-yard stare again. We’ve seen that look a lot. The parallel with Lafayette is too obvious — captive, escaped, traumatized and now, having fed, fantasizing about the very vampire that they hate and fear. But she can’t talk to Lafayette, at least not yet. And with Sookie, she can only express anger right now. Some folks may not like that development, but it rings true to me, actually.

LAUREN: Ditto.

THOMAS: Her relationships with Lafayette and Sookie are both very freighted right now. Finally, it’s with Sam, who she has more distance from, that she can let her guard down and show some vulnerability. I like Sam and I think he and Tara could be good for each other, so I am in favor of that, but independently of what it means for their relationship, I totally buy that Tara’s defenses are in her way with those closest to her and that she needs someone less in the middle of it to process with.

SALLY: I kept hoping she’d turn to Alcide, not romantically or anything, but just to have someone to release to. But he seems to be gone for at least a little bit, so that’s not happening. Bums me out. Tara needs somebody new in her life who isn’t a vampire or possessed or anything of the sort. A werewolf isn’t perfect, I guess, but at least an improvement.

LAUREN: Yeah, I kept thinking she would turn to Alcide as a neutral third party, but it didn’t happen. Alcide, despite his inexplicable love for Debbie Pelt, is refreshingly normal (for a werewolf).

Jason is going out of his way to get into trouble. He’s threatening to kill Bill and his unexpected, out-of-nowhere love for Crystal has him threatening strange creatures. Will Jason ever mature? Will we be forced to see him waltz into danger forever?

THOMAS: For the good of the show, Jason must die. His stupidity as a plot element is so predictable and one-note that it no longer even functions as comic relief. I hope that this plot line gives Sam another chance to show some mettle, though. Crystal’s father and fiance know he’s a shifter; they are headed for conflict.

LAUREN: It’s disappointing how Jason’s vigilantism that played so well with the Fellowship of the Sun is being employed so poorly now. The show has to figure out what Jason’s role is, but it’s for certain that the actor is not strong enough comedically to serve as the show’s sole humor, or charming enough to be the heartthrob (plus he’s got a lot of competition), and like some criticism of the Tara and Sookie relationship, we just haven’t seen enough between him and Sookie to believe they have a loving and supportive sibling relationship. There isn’t a lot of weight behind the character, and he isn’t light enough to hold up without it. Plus, every woman he touches dies, so… I think the writers love the eye candy too much to off Jason but can’t figure out what to do with him.

SALLY: He’s definitely one of the weakest points of this show, and I’m getting really sick of him and his recklessness. This episode really solidified that for me — there’s just no point to it. There isn’t much intelligence behind his decisions, yet sometimes he seems like a really smart guy. Are they doing that on purpose to give him depth, or are they just not thinking this out so well? I used to think it was the former, but now I’m thinking it’s the latter.

LAUREN: Jason and Andy together, however, is a good time. Maybe Jason is best serving as a foil for some of the other characters.

Tommy is going along with Sam’s project to save him from the Mickenses — he’s even taken Merlotte as a last name. But they don’t know each other. For Tommy, old habits die hard and he’s ready to throw down with Crystal’s father without probably even knowing what he is; he’s starting with Hoyt and causing trouble in Sam’s place, and he rebuffs Sam’s suggestion that he think about a future. Where do these two go from here?

SALLY: I’m liking Tommy more and more, even with his gut reaction and constantly acting on his instincts. (See, a recklessness that makes sense for the character, unlike Jason.) It’s cute to have somebody younger, protective, in some ways broken, still vulnerable at times, and at least trying to get from day to day. I’m not sure what this story line is going to do for the rest of the show, but it’s an interesting one.

LAUREN: I like Tommy — he’s restless and angry and doesn’t know how to channel his powers yet in a functional manner. I was piqued by the way he provoked the argument with Crystal’s family because of how much mirth was in his body language. To some degree, like all of the supes, he gets off on the violence. And it was interesting that Crystal’s family knew exactly what Tommy and Sam were.

THOMAS: They could literally smell that Sam and Tommy were shifters, and Crystal walked through water to throw off their scent, like bloodhounds. The writers are pointing at weres, though I’m not sure there are not different wrinkles to it.

LAUREN: I’m annoyed with the show’s attitudes toward poor white communities in this season (there’s a lot of racefail in the show, or at least a lot of racedubious), because they have relied on two major stereotypes to tell the story so far: incest (hints of it with the Mickenses and Crystal’s family) and meth manufacture. Also, banjo music. Where I’m from we call it bluegrass, not Deliverance. It’s all getting wound up in the Crystal storyline, so as much as I don’t care for it yet, I’m keeping one eye on it to see where this leads.

Lafayette and Jesus might be reconciling. Now that we’ve seen this play out just a bit more, are we still wary of Jesus? If so, what do we think he has up his sleeve?

THOMAS: Nothing up his sleeve. However, Lafayette and he have a lot to work through if this is to work. Lafayette is not at the end of getting pulled into dangerous situations he can’t control; he’s just getting warmed up. If he’s with Jesus, he exposes him to it as well.

LAUREN: What was up with all the discussion about Lafayette’s power? I was left wondering whether Jesus and Lafayette’s mom were speaking of his depth and personal character, or whether this is foreshadowing literal powers. Considering the probing of Lafayette’s spirituality in the last three episodes, I can’t rule out the possibility. Lafayette is the new Willow.

SALLY: That’s what made me wonder if something was up with Jesus. The power talk creeped me out. Well, that, and the fact that the whole situation makes me a bit suspicious. But I hope they have some good times until something happens to make this explode in their faces.

LAUREN: The depiction of Lafayette’s mom and her deep mental illness on the show was, in this episode anyway, pretty empathetic. Plus Laffy’s mom, Ruby Jean, is played by Alfre Woodard who is awesome. What did y’all think?

SALLY: Jesus saying that she’s schizophrenic but still perceptive was an interesting one. It’s not often that such a distinction is made on a tv show. And Alfre Woodard will always be incredible. Always.

LAUREN: Also, what did everyone think about Hadley’s appearance and her warning toward Sookie? First she told Sookie that she needed to leave, and then she told her above all NOT to trust Bill. Because I hate Bill, I’m choosing to believe that Eric’s prediction that Bill will betray Sookie is going to come true. Sue me.

THOMAS: I assume Eric knows something about Bill’s role, more than the audience and less than the full story, and when Sookie knows that much, it will put a wedge between her and Bill that will make the assault look like a toothpick. I’d rather that was permanent, but I doubt it. I suspect that the last facts to come out will be extenuating and will help Bill get Sookie back. Or maybe the writers will surprise me, Pam will stake Bill and Eric and Sookie will get close like porcupines fuck, slowly and carefully.

Russell tells Talbot that he killed the Magister and will be MIA for a while. Luckily for Talbot, Eric offers to keep him company. There’s a gay vampire sex scene, and then Eric kills Talbot. Um, thoughts?

LAUREN: Glorious. Delicious, all of it. I think I actually clapped my hands at the sex, the deception, Russell’s reaction. Fantastic. Swoon.

THOMAS: I was surprised that Eric sprung the trap that soon, but he has to play this all-out now. He’s crossed the Rubicon and staked the partner of a three thousand year old vampire. Fortunately, he will have at least temporary allies — though he can’t tell them that immediately — in the Authority. Eric will come out ahead. Of that we can be sure. But there’s a wild ride between here and there. Partly because I hate Russell and partly because I like Eric so much, his staking of Talbot and Russell’s immediate reaction was among the most satisfying moments not just of the episode but of the series. I’m sorry to see Talbot go, because I kind of liked him, and Russell’s worst qualities were the ones he was least fond of, too. He was killed, literally and figuratively for Russell’s sins. But I really hate Russell and I really sympathize with Eric, so I’ll watch gleefully as Eric either kills Russell and his whole crew or causes it to be done. This is total war, and Russell and his entire line and household will end up dead.

SALLY: I was also pleasantly surprised that this happened so quickly. I’ll stress the pleasantly in that. Everything leading up to Eric killing Talbot was super hot, then seeing the look on Talbot’s face actually made me laugh out loud. The entire episode was worth it just to get to this point. Really, I loved Eric’s game with Russell throughout the whole thing — it was incredible. Oh, and Talbot had my favorite line of the night: “I’m bored. Take off your clothes.”

LAUREN: Ah, Talbot, we’re going to miss you.


17 thoughts on Tuesday True Blood Roundtable: Night on the Sun

  1. This episode was the “domestic abuse” episode. Painful to watch, lots to learn. I keep wishing for Bill and Sookie to get together and experience that “true love,” and as time goes on I’m realizing how messed up that wish is.

    The more bloodbath I see in this, the more I wonder what the hell kind of monster I am to like it! I had a conversation with my six-year-old son about the “scary TV show” I was going to watch, and he asked to watch it, maintaining that he wouldn’t be scared. So I told him people got killed, and he said, “Oh, I wouldn’t like it then.” I asked “Too scary?” and he said, “No, too sad.”

    The Bill/Jessica dynamic rocked, as did the Lafayette/Jesus one. Lafayette is my favorite character, hands-down.

    I love Jason’s character. His naivite, impulsiveness, eagerness to go “all in,” and the way everything always turns out in his favor. To me it’s white male privilege in a delightfully exaggerated caricature.

  2. I kind of liked that Sookie didn’t shoot Debbie because it made sense for the character. Sookie might be a supe, she might be deep in the community, but these are recent developments for her. She isn’t a killer either by nature or by training and violence isn’t part of who she is. Sure, she has killed twice, but both times have been very recently and both times have been when she had not other choice and the person she was killing had done something terrible to someone she loved. I think what we have to remember about Sookie is that, up until less than a year ago, she was an emotionally inexperienced homebody raised by a very sweet grandmother. Its easy to forget that Bill is her first boyfriend (up until shes on her lawn crying because shes never had her heart broken before), that the world of violence shes been drawn into is still new to her, that her identity is still forming. Thats why I liked Sookie not pulling the trigger, because I think a lot of people would have trouble actually killing someone (especially given that I’m sure Sookie empathizes with Debbie). I like that eight or nine months of hanging out with vampires hasn’t erased twenty-something years of Gran’s influence.

    Also, Lauren: Good call, Lafayette is totally the new Willow. The show has been chumming that water for awhile now. Between showing that there are witches in the show’s cosmology when Sookie was stung by the Maenad, his comments about Tara’s exorcism, Tara’s accidental calling of the Maenad, and Jesus’ comments about Lafayette’s shrine, it was just a matter of time.

    Finally, I was really worried when they brought a mad character into the show, but I love the way they treated Lafayette’s mom in this episode. Her thoughts might not be linear and rational, and she might be steeped in primary process, but the woman knows whats going on. She is reasonable even if her reason is alien to the other people in the room.

  3. Thank you so much for your insights!!! I was beginning to believe I had lost my mind when reading other people’s perceptions (including the viewpoint of the shows’ writers in the behind the scenes video on HBO), about this show, where B/S are STILL regarded as a loving couple, it was ‘hot make-up seix’, and no one questions how messed up that relationship now is. Everything you said about everyone was totally on point, including the one about the depiction of poor white communities, coming from a small town myself.

  4. Just to echo what y’all have already said about Ruby Jean/Alfre Woodard, this episode had one of the most human depictions of a person managing schizophrenia that I think I’ve ever seen. Jesus’ empathy for Ruby Jean killed all of my concerns about him. I hope he Lafayette are able to create a relationship out of this.

    I was also very surprised by the fierce love and loyalty Ruby Jean expressed for Lafayette. Given our introduction to her character in the first episode, it was completely unexpected and beautiful.

    And holy cats!, you’re completely right about Lafayette/Willow. I can’t believe I missed that.

    Bill actually embracing the responsibility of being a maker was the first time in a long time that I really liked him. At the same time, although we were supposed to empathize with Sookie (I guess) on how hard his absence would be, it wasn’t until Jessica said something to the effect of “I don’t want to be alone anymore” that I realized what a fucking awful maker/person/vampire Bill is to have left Jessica so shortly after making her. Wow. I just talked myself out of liking him again.

    I cannot wait to see the Russell/Eric storyline resolve. I’ll miss Talbot, who has been my primary source of humor for the show this season, and still feel uncomfortable with his death being part of Eric’s revenge on Russell. But I guess that’s what ‘revenge’ is about.

  5. I was kind of bored, honestly, until the last fifteen minutes of the show.

    My friends and I all looked at each other after that last scene. No one said anything for a bit, and then I said, “Well, True Blood never dissapoints.”

    That’s why even with all the screeching and gore, I will continue watching every week. It’s so fantastically entertaining I can’t stop now.

  6. Lauren, good point on the class issues, and I have to own that it doesn’t set off my alarms like it should when it’s rolled into stereotypes about Southerners. Run the same shit about poor New Englanders and I’d be calling it out back, left and center. I think a fair amount of classism in American life and media gets hidden in regional stereotyping, actually.

  7. Also, I loved how Jessica handles Bill’s release order. She rejected his rejection! She smacked it back in his face like a bad jump shot and forced him to cowboy up and own his responsibilities! Jessica has lately been my favorite character, ahead even of Eric and Lafayette. (Sam is a close fourth, but Sam is the most underutilized of the bunch. The writers at least seem to fully appreciate that in Eric, Lafayette and Jessica, they have fascinating characters to work with. Sam’s such an afterthought, and so should not be.)

  8. I like that eight or nine months of hanging out with vampires hasn’t erased twenty-something years of Gran’s influence.

    Actually William, it has only been about 7 weeks total since the night Bill Compton first walked into Merlotte’s.

    Which just makes the whole fuckedUPness of the Bill and Sookie relationship even more bizarre and disturbing. I think they made it clear this ep that the connection formed through the blood can be used by the vampire as a tool of control and manipulation of the drinker. Tara having an erotic dream about a vampire she loathes illustrated this quite nicely. And bless her heart, ever the truth teller Tara tells Sookie ‘we both know what drinking vampire blood can do to you’. Tara thinks Bill glamoured Sookie into thinking she loves him and she is not far off.

    Bless you Tara, and Lauren, for seeing the truth and hating Bill’s guts. He is a monster. A serial killing, lying, abusive, domestically violent, thieving pig who enjoys ‘preying on the innocent’ in the most vile, cruel ways imaginable. He is deeply depraved. We haven’t seen the half of what Bill is capable of. Every ‘noble’ gesture, every ‘kind’ word, every ‘tragic’ facial expression that emanates from Vampire Bill is a transparent act of Vaudevillian proportions.

  9. Every ‘noble’ gesture, every ‘kind’ word, every ‘tragic’ facial expression that emanates from Vampire Bill is a transparent act of Vaudevillian proportions.

    I hadn’t realized it was only 7 weeks, I guess I’d figured we had some drop time somewhere in there.

    Anyway, I disagree about Bill a little bit. Not about him being a vile and violent sadist, but about his guilt being an act. I think one of the things that I find most reflexively repulsive about Bill is that I believe his guilt, I think he genuinely feels bad about what he’s done after the fact. The hitch is that he doesn’t feel badly enough to not do those same things again. His remorse is genuine and tricks you into thinking something has changed, but nothing ever will. Its the way in which he emotionally manipulates people, especially someone as romantically inexperienced as Sookie.

  10. “His remorse is genuine and tricks you into thinking something has changed, but nothing ever will. ”

    This. If Eric thinks something’s wrong, he won’t do it. He doesn’t feel bad about all the things we may wish he did, but he’s as good as his values. Bill’s always sorry. Always so fucking sorry.

    Somebody on this blog once said that an apology is a promise to change. But Bill never does. He just cries in his True Blood.

  11. Bill’s reaction this week was really interesting. I think he realized how much he lost. He tried to play with the big boys, and lost. He bit much more than he could chew. He wanted to fool Russel, thinking he could possibly outsmart him… and lost everything, with everyone.
    I liked that they shortly got together in the heat of adrenaline, I think it makes it real. But I am sure very soon Sookie will find out what all this secrets files were about, the same thing that Eric heard from Hadley possibly. I am guessing what it is based on books, but i try not to mix it too much 😉

    Eric and Talbot were great. It’s been fascinating to watch the unreal control that Eric exercised in his mission. He will not let emotions, impulses or foolishness destroy thousand years of longing and dreaming of revenge. Plus it’s nice to see some gay sex on a tv show – so rarely we can see it. Even Lafayette with Jesus – they kiss gently and then move out from the screen as if to save us from seeing too much. No straight couple was so fast removed in this way!

    Jessica has grown and matured tremendously. But she is aware of how much she needs to learn, that she needs the support and help. And she just have to get together with Hoyt 🙂

  12. I HATE the Bill-Sookie relationship! Sookie is a strong, talented woman with her own powers- plenty more unique than Bill is- but she keeps catering to Bill. He cheats on her, breaks up with her, etc, and it takes him almost murdering her for her to dump him… for a single episode. Now they are back together again? *sigh*

    Oh, and Eric is smokin’. I was disappointed at how short the Talbot-Eric scene was, but still.

  13. Wait, what incest hinting with the Mickens? I missed that completely.

    The incest in the Hot Shot community, however, is straight from the books (authored by a southern woman) and does have a point later on. To be fair though, none of the humans in this story seem to be middle class. Except for Jessica’s former family, perhaps

    I like the joyous fight in Tommy, but I also know that kind of fire will burn everything down if it doesn’t have a focus. I’d like to see more of him and Jessica. I was always kind of weirded out by the 11 yr age difference between Jessica & Hoyt.

    I was sad to see Talbot go. I was sure he & Sophie-Anne would get along famously! They both have similar tastes and a flair for the dramatic.

    When Jason talked to Crystal about how the Fellowship of The Sun had “washed his brain”, my father responded, “well, it only takes a light rinse!” I’m sure Jason will mature and tbh, I like him much better than book Jason.

    I love the way they’re dealing with Tara, but I’ve loved Tara all along & it puzzles me when others don’t!

  14. Eric+Talbot were not the first gay sex scene pairing this season. Pam + That Estonian dancer whose name I’ve forgotten, got it on too.

  15. My predictions:

    -Jason’s stupidity leads Crystal’s family back to his place where she HAD been hiding, and she either ends up dead, or more likely, close to dead and back at the Hot Shot place.

    -Bill sought out Sookie on Sophie-Anne’s orders, as part of a big plan the queen has (I think she is smarter and more saavy/ambitious/powerful than she likes to appear), he keeps the dossier for her/gave Sookie his blood immediately/etc. because of this. But then he “fell in love” (ugh) and he saw allying with Russell, before things went bad, as a way to get out of his obligation to the queen as far as Sookie goes. I think this all comes out and Sookie feels betrayed, and Bill tries to explain that he still loves her blah blah blah, and she probably eventually forgives him like she forgives everything else that he does.

    -Tommy and Jessica become “partners in crime” on something, and maybe get together.

  16. And yeah I also disliked the Eric/Talbot scene, at first I thought it was awesome but the timing, killing him, was so awful.

    I forgot to add that I also agree Lafayette has witch-like powers, and I think Tara does too.

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