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Obama picks Kagan as Supreme Court nominee

Well, there’s that. I will write about this more in-depth in the coming days, as time allows. Suffice it to say that I think Kagan is a perfectly fine nominee; she’s very intelligent, she seems like a team player and she surely will be more than a competent Supreme Court justice.

But my perception of Kagan is that she’s a little bit gutless. And I would love to have seen Obama pick a slightly more daring, forward-thinking liberal — someone who isn’t afraid to take unpopular positions, and who is willing to put what’s right ahead of what is politically expedient. Sotomayor was another relatively centrist, highly-accomplished, incredibly intelligent pick who, while a bit braver than Kagan, is a model of judicial restraint. Despite the racist and sexist accusations throughout Sotomayor’s confirmation hearings, she is in reality a very centrist, conservative (in the judicial sense, not the political one) justice. I would have been much happier if, after getting a fairly “safe” choice onto the court, Obama went for a balls-out (or ovaries-out) liberal. My biggest concerns about Kagan are her lack of that kind of bravery, and her loyalty to this administration. The Bush administration consolidated executive power in extraordinary and terrifying ways; the Obama administration has been loathe to cede any of that power back. The Supreme Court will be tackling important questions of executive authority in the years to come, and I worry that Kagan will be more deferential to the government than I would like her to be.

At least she’ll probably be a fairy easy confirmation. The only thing that conservatives have to hang their hats on are the usual abortion and gay-rights issues — slightly more heated here after Kagan’s decision to briefly bar military recruiters from Harvard Law, since they violated the school’s anti-discrimination policy. But — and again, this is something I’ll tackle later when I have the time — that’s largely a non-issue, and (hopefully) won’t be too divisive of an issue once it’s actually explained. Especially since Kagan eventually did let the recruiters back on campus.

The New York Times has a run-down of Kagan’s notable statements and writings, and they are… not great. Some high/lowlights:

“I think it is a great deal better for the elected branches to take the lead in creating a more just society than for courts to do so.”

“I am fully prepared to argue, consistent with Supreme Court precedents, that the death penalty is constitutional.”

“It seems now utterly wrong to me to say that religious organizations generally should be precluded from receiving funds for providing the kinds of services contemplated by the Adolescent Family Life Act.”

“There is no federal constitutional right to same-sex marriage.”

Anyway, it’s nice to see Obama nominating another accomplished and intelligent woman to the court. But with so many of those women to pick from, I wish he had selected someone a little bit more progressive and a little bit less safe.


32 thoughts on Obama picks Kagan as Supreme Court nominee

  1. It was a cautious pick and one that will not encourage much in the way of a GOP smear campaign (or at least one that has any legs), but my reservations are yours as well.

  2. I agree with your post, Jill, except to the extent that I feel much more strongly. Obama’s track record on civil rights vis a vis not putting the President above the law has been abysmal, and I’ll be shocked if Kagan doesn’t end up putting the Supreme Court seal of approval on these executive branch aggrandizements.

    I would have infinitely preferred Diane Wood.

    1. Yeah. I feel pretty strongly that she is not at all an ideal liberal choice — especially since any future nominee will almost definitely be more conservative, if Democrats lose seats in Congress. But torpedoing her nomination will only mean that someone more conservative is nominated, so we’re kind of between a rock and a hard place now.

  3. Hey look, once again Obama pretty much chooses someone who can be described as centrist with a history of showing deference to the government in all or most cases. Somehow I’m just not shocked that the change we wanted to believe in has turned out to be just another line of bullshit.

  4. “torpedoing her nomination will only mean that someone more conservative is nominated”

    I’m pretty fucking tired of getting pulled along by this feckless administration under threat of a more conservative government, and I’m not the only one. Color me unenthusiastic.

    1. Well yeah, I’m unenthusiastic too. But it’s not a “threat” of a more conservative government — it’s going to be the realistic outcome if her nomination is blocked. Do you really think that she would lose the nomination and that Obama would respond by nominating someone more liberal?

  5. I think the time to nominate a real daring, ovaries-out liberal would have been when replacing Souter, before the passage of the Health Care Bill. Now that the Bill has passed, Obama is probably worried that the Republicans will exact revenge by blocking his Supreme Court nominee, so he went with the one with almost no paper trail.
    If that’s even remotely true, it’s really sad that that is the way we go about picking the people who will serve on the Highest Court in the country!

  6. From that sound bite I suppose we can’t conclude that she’s against same-sex marriage the way we can be sure that Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito are, but it doesn’t make me feel too confident either. I suppose it would have to depend on the case. Shocking, I know, that a Justice would actually hear the legal argument rather than predetermine a case based on ideological bent. Still, I don’t like reading that quote.

  7. I’ve been doing some digging on her early years, and it turns out she was a bit of a campus rabble-rouser at Princeton. (I posted a bit of the story today, and I’ll have more tomorrow.)

    There’s nothing terribly shocking in what I’ve uncovered, but it does seem to lend weight to the arguments made by those who say she’s a politically progressive person who has spent her life working within the constraints of less-progressive institutions, rather than a centrist herself. And that kind of person does tend to blossom on the Court.

    Also, I find the fact that she’s a former student newspaper editor who locked horns with the Princeton administration over student freedoms gives me some hope for her prospects of becoming a worthy successor to Justice Stevens on civil liberties issue.

  8. I’m curious about the notion that if Kagan were somehow blocked, the inevitable result would be a more conservative candidate. If the blocking was instigated on the part of Progressives – wouldn’t the threat there be that picking a more conservative nominee would just result in another block?

  9. Four reactionaries and five conservative to centrist jurists = reactionary court. What do we have to do to get even one honest-to-goodness liberal on the court to at least give a voice (in what will surely be dissenting opinions) to the rest of us? The base rallied, elected massive majorities and a Democratic president, and all we get is more centrist, corporate crap. Obama seems utterly unwilling to engage in any sort of political hardball, unless it’s against the left. Reid’s the same way. They’ll happily grovel before Coburn or Inhofe, Lieberman or McConnell, but they’ll got into full attack mode when Kucinich or Dodd or Feingold try to do the right thing. It’s disgusting, and this pick is just a continuation of that policy of dragging the Overton window to the hard right, with just enough cover (oh, she’s a she, and ) to pretend that they’re doing something else.

  10. I would have been much happier if, after getting a fairly “safe” choice onto the court, Obama went for a balls-out (or ovaries-out) liberal.

    What do we have to do to get even one honest-to-goodness liberal on the court to at least give a voice

    But Obama is not a “balls-out” “honest-to-goodness” liberal. He’s a moderate Democrat. He campaigned as a moderate Democrat and has governed as one. So far, his court nominations have been exactly that.

    I supported Obama because I think moderate, consensus-building leaders make the best presidents. I don’t want ideologues – right or left – in the White House or on the Bench.

  11. “An easy nomination? Are you kidding? 1) She’s being nominated by a Democrat”

    this is ahistorical. i can’t think of any dem equivelent to bork. thomas was put thru the most grueling successful confirmation process ever and dems filibustered 10 bush judicial nominiees to lower courts which are stepping stones to scotus. indeed, for the last century and then some, every rejected scotus nominiee has been nominated by a republican.

    yet its dems who have the hard time?

  12. @Jill

    It is a threat because it’s what’s being held over the constituency’s head implicitly. It’s a threat in the sense that there are people doing the threatening, and we voted for them. We need to call that bluff. I’m sorry, but where’s the cutoff? When do we stop making concessions to his excessive moderation? I mean it’s sort of a moot point for me, I’m decided and I’m not going to lift a finger to help another mainstream Democratic party member until they show some loyalty- at least as much as the Republicans show the ring-wing fringe.

    If that means I’m helping to scuttle the party so be it. Party loyalty either goes both ways or it doesn’t go. I hasten to remind people that the people most responsible for fragmentation in any party are the ones who engaged in divisive behavior in the first place, and that’s exactly what Obama has been doing since he took office by constantly compromising for nothing, in exchange for nothing.

  13. @Manju: I mean that as “A Democratic nominee is going to have a hard time getting past this lot of Republicans,” not as “Democratic nominees traditionally have a hard time getting confirmed.”

    I mean, it’s pretty much undeniable that at this point in American politics, Democrats are willing to compromise and Republicans are not.

  14. @StudentActivism, I hope you’re right. But it’s been an awfully long time since she was in college.

  15. I’m not going to lift a finger to help another mainstream Democratic party member until they show some loyalty

    Loyalty to who? Mainstream Dems are loyal to their mainstream constituency.

    Democrats are willing to compromise and Republicans are not.

    Again, there’s no evidence that Obama is compromising here. I think Kagan and Sotomayor are exactly the kind of moderate-liberal justices that he wants.

  16. “I mean, it’s pretty much undeniable that at this point in American politics, Democrats are willing to compromise and Republicans are not.”

    true, but repubs rolled over on sotomayor, so i don’t know if things have changed since then.

    maybe they were feeling a little brave after scott brown, but since then Bam got HCR thru, worse still the economy’s in recovery mode leaving them to whine about jobs which is laggard (unemployment increases for a few quarters after a recovery) and now that issues on the verge of going too. once death panel fail to appear and seniors realize their medicare premiums aren’t going up, Bam will be holding all the cards and repubs will have to get in line.

    so i don’t think they’ll have the political will to go against an increasingly popular prez whose in the process of bouncing off his low point. they’ll be some nastiness and homophobia to be sure but yo won’t get the all out bloodbath that was meted out on thomas and bork.

    my prediction: she’ll cruise thru like soto.

  17. Isn’t there a fundamental issue in using Kagan’s answers to questions about her nomination as Solicitor General to determine her actual views? The role of the SG is to speak as an advocate for the United States, which necessarily involves defending laws regardless of one’s position on those laws. If Kagan couldn’t argue that the death penalty was constitutional, that DOMA was constitutional, that AFLA was constitutional, that DADT was constitutional, or even that the Solomon Amendment was constitutional, she would have been unqualified to hold the position of the Solicitor General. Sometimes public service means taking the position of the government, even when that position isn’t consistent with one’s own beliefs.

    Wood would have been a better pick, but arguing that point based on Kagan’s nomination to and arguments made as Solicitor General is problematic at best.

  18. @AnonymousCoward

    True, but the quotes cited in the original post are all from her SG confirmation hearing or other sources, none of it is from her time as Solicitor General.

    Also, looks like this sorta troubling position from Kagan in ’97 has just come out: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/05/10/us/AP-US-Kagan-Abortion.html?_r=1

    Who would have thought in 2008 that after Obama’s time in office (whether it be one or two terms), we’d be left with a Supreme Court which is actually more conservative than when he entered office. The mind reels.

  19. She was also a paid advisor to Goldman Sachs.

    Why does that matter? What’s wrong with working as a lawyer for an investment bank?

  20. I agree regarding everyone’s reservations, but I’m always confused why people think Obama was some radical force who is currently wimping out. I like him, but his background had ALWAYS been pretty centrist and moderate, so picks like these don’t surprise me. I get disappointed when he stalls on concrete promises like Don’t Ask Don’t Tell – but his general gestalt is, and has been, pretty moderate.

  21. “I’m always confused why people think Obama was some radical force who is currently wimping out.”

    because he’s black

  22. Rebecca:

    I would like to carve out an exception to my prediction in 21. Its possible that the repubs get together and cunningly start praising the heck out Kagan–like keep repeating her “I love the Federalist Society” line–triggering a Pavlov-like leftist backlash who then turn on Bam and pull a Harriet Miers.

    I know, its unlikely…mostly b/c we (republicans) aren’t that smart and even if we were we’d still have to outmaneuver a man who administered a beat-down to both the Clintons and the VRWC. Odds aren’t good.

    But in the off-chance it does happen, you heard it here first.

  23. @djf it matters because Goldman Sachs were one of the architects of our current financial meltdown, based in a flawed worldview and economic view that ignored reality and gambled with the livelihoods of the weakest. It was their job to know what was going on. She was on a panel that advised them on “public policy issues” from 2005-2008. So it’s worth examining what the panel did.

    I don’t think we need to be coy about “an investment bank.” It’s not particularly class-war-y to blame goldman sachs for what they are explicitly responsible for. They are facing a civil fraud lawsuit right now.

  24. “it matters because Goldman Sachs were one of the architects of our current financial meltdown”

    True, but they are way down there on the list by virtue of the fact that they recognized the bubble b/f most others, including government. By going short the housing market they helped prevent the bubble from getting bigger, which means (since a larger bubble bursting creates a steeper recession) they saved jobs and helped avoid a lot of pain.

    “It was their job to know what was going on”

    recognizing a bubble is not a matter of knowledge, but opinion. its more like predicting who will win the world series. knowledge helps, but it’s still not determinate.

    The people who should receive the most scorn are those who were long the housing market, were close to bankruptcy, and were the primary reason for the bailout. In order of relative cost to taxpayers that would be : fannie and freddie, aig, citi, lehman, and bear. Goldman is way down on the list.

    “She was on a panel that advised them on “public policy issues” from 2005-2008. So it’s worth examining what the panel did.”

    goldman is big on “social venture capital”…using entrepreneurial principles to help the underprividged (or financing ventures which help the environment, like cleantech.. ie have social good): micro loans, free-enterprise zones, school choice, are examples. i don’t know for sure, but i’m guessing this is what she did.

    “They are facing a civil fraud lawsuit right now.”

    GS acting like a broker in this situation is a little different than your merrill lynch broker advising you to buy a GE Bond. the fiduciary relationship isn’t quite as strong, but more importantly, GS is acting like a real broker…ie someone with 2 clients possessing different objectives.

    the “banking” client (paulson) wants to sell the securities because he thinks they’re going down, so he hires Goldmans to find the buyer. The “sales and trading” client (buyer) thinks its going up so on some level there is an inevitable conflict. while the market is not a zero-sum game, every singular trade is. this is what it means to make markets.

    GS apparently withheld the fact that it was paulson who was selling the securities. but thats not a material fact in the institutional markets in my experince. sophisticateed institutional investors should make their decisions based on the content of the security, not who is selling it..just like a good debater debates the argument, not the person.

    “gambled with the livelihoods of the weakest.”

    they gambled with their own money (or their shareholders, who granted include the weakest since many pension funds invested in goldman) and later with taxpayer money. the taxpayer money was paid back with a handsome ROR thankyouverymuch and the rest of the money also did quite well, in comparison to say fannie and fredie who needed another 8billion from the taxpayers just yesterday i see.

    i fail to see why we should single out the firm who did better than most. its good to make money, no? its losing money that hurts people.

  25. Manju, your closing remark is a good indicator that the rest of your comment needn’t be taken too seriously. Using your logic, one could say that we shouldn’t get angry at thieves, because they make money, and making money is good, right?

    Also, when you say that “the taxpayer money was paid back with a handsome ROR”, I have to wonder how much of that money paid back was actually indirectly from another pool of taxpayer money: the hundred billion+ dollars the US government spent on bailing out AIG, the insurer for so many of the deals that went bad during this period?

    For a sensible look at the complicated issue of Goldman Sachs’s legal and moral liabilities, one clearly needs to look elsewhere.

    First, Ian Welsh notes that Goldman Sachs made money every day during the last quarter, and he claims this unheard-of success is prima facie evidence that the firm is large enough to manipulate markets. I don’t have the economic understanding to say for sure whether this is correct, but I’ve always found Ian (former managing editor at FireDogLake) to be an extremely insightful blogger.

    Second, one could read and/or listen to this Fresh Air segment which discusses the reasons why Goldman Sachs is under investigation by the SEC and the Justice Dept.

    Third, I highly recommend this extraordinary story by This American Life which explored how one company appeared to set up deals for its clients that would be more profitable for the company when those investments failed than if they succeeded. The story is explained in as close to layman’s terms as you’re likely to get in this subject matter, and I found it to be quite riveting.

    Hope this comment isn’t too much of a digression … I thought Manju’s misleading remarks required some sort of response.

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