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Boy Scouts teaches kids to run the new police state

Feministe commenter Tom Foolery sent me this article, with the comment that, “I feel like the reporter here could’ve asked some harder questions. Like “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING?!” For example.”

That pretty much sums up my reaction, too. From the article:

Ten minutes into arrant mayhem in this town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people, one slumped in his desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.

The responding officers — eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14 — face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shots — BAM! BAM! — fired from behind a flimsy wall. They move quickly, pellet guns drawn and masks affixed.

“United States Border Patrol! Put your hands up!” screams one in a voice cracking with adolescent determination as the suspect is subdued.

It is all quite a step up from the square knot.

The Explorers program, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts of America that began 60 years ago, is training thousands of young people in skills used to confront terrorism, illegal immigration and escalating border violence — an intense ratcheting up of one of the group’s longtime missions to prepare youths for more traditional jobs as police officers and firefighters.

“This is about being a true-blooded American guy and girl,” said A. J. Lowenthal, a sheriff’s deputy here in Imperial County, whose life clock, he says, is set around the Explorers events he helps run. “It fits right in with the honor and bravery of the Boy Scouts.”

The training, which leaders say is not intended to be applied outside the simulated Explorer setting, can involve chasing down illegal border crossers as well as more dangerous situations that include facing down terrorists and taking out “active shooters,” like those who bring gunfire and death to college campuses. In a simulation here of a raid on a marijuana field, several Explorers were instructed on how to quiet an obstreperous lookout.

“Put him on his face and put a knee in his back,” a Border Patrol agent explained. “I guarantee that he’ll shut up.”

It will probably shock no one to learn that the kids are being trained to focus on Mexicans and people in “Middle Eastern dress.”

The degree to which young people in this country are brought up to accept extreme policing and social control is deeply disturbing. The ACLU has done some great work on the school-to-prison pipeline, which they describe as “a disturbing national trend wherein children are funneled out of public schools and into the juvenile and criminal justice systems.” The children who are funneled from schools into prisons are largely low-income and of color. On the other hand, we have children who are targeted by the Explorer Scouts being trained to police, often forcefully. It’s a recipe for another generation of incarceration, social and economic devastation in policed communities, and violence.

What the fuck are these people thinking?


42 thoughts on Boy Scouts teaches kids to run the new police state

  1. Thanks for blogging this, Jill. This quote is what really disturbs me:

    “This is about being a true-blooded American guy and girl,” said A. J. Lowenthal, a sheriff’s deputy here in Imperial County, whose life clock, he says, is set around the Explorers events he helps run.

    We cannot let law enforcement run amok reinforce the idea that being part of, or obedient to, the police state, is what defines American-ness. It is defines precisely the opposite.

  2. Tom– Yeah, that quote jumped out at me too. I think my newest life lesson is to never trust anybody who uses “true-blooded [x]” non-ironically.

    I think this quote is the most disturbing:

    “Put him on his face and put a knee in his back,” a Border Patrol agent explained. “I guarantee that he’ll shut up.”

    A Border Patrol Agent so willing to share that lovely quote with the New York Times makes me wonder what goes on that is hush-hush. Geez.

  3. WHAT?????

    I say again, WHAT???????

    Of all the fucking idiotic, macho bullshit I have ever heard of. What the hell do they think this is, ancient Sparta?

    *breathes*

    OK, I understand teaching young people to respond calmly in a crisis and to defend themselves. But this is so far beyond that it’s almost funny. Unless you’re a Navy SEAL sniper, “taking out” terrorists really shouldn’t be something you try to do. You’ll kill other people, probably yourself, and just piss the terrorist off.

  4. Oh, and a field of pot? THAT”s what they think is the problem facing “true blooded Americans”? Because really, pot is the downfall of the true blooded American boy or girl.

    Ick, Ick, Ick. I cannot even begin to count the levels of creepy, little boy policing concentration camp kinds of ways this squicks me.

  5. OK, last ranty comment, I swear, but did anyone notice this charming quote:

    Cathy Noriego, also 16, said she was attracted by the guns. The group uses compressed-air guns — known as airsoft guns, which fire tiny plastic pellets — in the training exercises, and sometimes they shoot real guns on a closed range.

    “I like shooting them,” Cathy said. “I like the sound they make. It gets me excited.”

    Fail. Epic, epic fail.

    Oh, and this?

    In a competition in Arizona that he did not oversee, Deputy Lowenthal said, one role-player wore traditional Arab dress. “If we’re looking at 9/11 and what a Middle Eastern terrorist would be like,” he said, “then maybe your role-player would look like that. I don’t know, would you call that politically incorrect?”

    Um, no, they wouldn’t wander around with a bomb and a kaffiya, not unless they’re as wonderously stupid as you seem to be.

  6. Cathy Noriego, also 16, said she was attracted by the guns. The group uses compressed-air guns — known as airsoft guns, which fire tiny plastic pellets — in the training exercises, and sometimes they shoot real guns on a closed range.

    “I like shooting them,” Cathy said. “I like the sound they make. It gets me excited.”

    Personally, I really only have a problem with this quote in the context of the article. There isn’t anything necessarily wrong with enjoying firing off a gun. Learning to enjoy it in the context of wielding force for the state is way more problematic to me.

  7. Shrug. I enjoy firing a gun as well. But the thought of a 16 year old almost sexually excited at the prospect of shooting at a “border crosser” or an “Arab terrorist” gives me the chills.

    There’s nothing wrong with enjoying shooting, there’s a problem with enjoying shooting *at people.*

  8. Cathy Noriego, also 16, said she was attracted by the guns. The group uses compressed-air guns — known as airsoft guns, which fire tiny plastic pellets — in the training exercises, and sometimes they shoot real guns on a closed range.

    “I like shooting them,” Cathy said. “I like the sound they make. It gets me excited.”

    Fail. Epic, epic fail.

    Why fail? I enjoy shooting guns, I like the sound they make, and hitting a target at 100 yards in heavy wind can be pretty damned exciting. The context of this training is disturbing as all hell, but merely liking guns? Way to be open to another’s culture…

  9. The Boy Scouts are already a prisoner to far-right religious organizations, which is why they stubbornly cling to homophobic policies that cost them dollars and prestige. Now they are pushing kids to the Security State. I cannot express how vile this is.

    @Chava — of course pot is the biggest problem facing True-Blooded Murkins. It competes with beer for market share; causes couch-sitting and snacking which leads to Teh Obestiy Epidemic!!one!(we must protect the children!!); and it causes peacenik hippiedom and jam bands! /sarcasm

  10. I’m guessing my comment above hadn’t come through yet. Look, I’m from a military family, I get (and sometimes do) the gun thing. Like any responsible gun owner, though, I was always taught to take it very, very seriously. Enjoy it, sure–but don’t even point a play gun at a human being without a very, very good reason. The flippancy of the comment in the article and her age/the context of the “training” bothered me.

  11. There’s so much failure in that article and the quotes from the Explorer folks that I don’t even know where to start. The “this is what a Middle Eastern terrorist looks like” is the most ridiculous. Use your brain for one tiny second, dude, and ask yourself if you think that’s what terrorists ACTUALLY dress like when they’re trying to kill people. Then ask yourself if you have ANY justification in teaching kids to “identify terrorists” that way. It’s so unbelievably stupid and wrong.

    I am also horrified but not entirely surprised that I had NEVER heard of this before:

    There have been numerous cases over the last three decades in which police officers supervising Explorers have been charged, in civil and criminal cases, with sexually abusing them. Several years ago, two University of Nebraska criminal justice professors published a study that found at least a dozen cases of sexual abuse involving police officers over the last decade. Adult Explorer leaders are now required to take an online training program on sexual misconduct.

    A dozen cases of POLICE who are SEXUALLY ABUSING KIDS in the BOY SCOUTS? Wait, why has this not been on the news? People talk all the time about oh gosh, what kind of people become Catholic priests, should homosexuals be teaching kids in school, frowny face head-shaking about child abuse. But nobody stops to think about a DECADES-OLD PATTERN of child abuse that seems to have cropped up amongst law enforcement officials? Who (probably more than Catholic priests) are entrusted with the safety of kids? Horrifying.

    The whole training and recruitment of kids is not that surprising in general, though. Of course that’s going on, of course they want to “create more agents” as the Border Patrol says in that article, and of course they’re being indoctrinated in the same things that cadets fresh out of high school or college are indoctrinated with a couple years later, at 18 or 22.

    We didn’t have law enforcement training options when I was in high school, but we did have Junior Statesmen of America, which is where all the little politician wannabes from different schools got together. I put together a regional newspaper for one of the power-broker girls that she used as part of her bid to be the president of the whole organization. And it was pretty much the same thing for those kids, but for politics instead of law enforcement: how to barter with power blocs, manipulate and exploit situations and people, build a base of loyal followers (usually with promises of sex parties and booze) and then get totally wasted and have affairs, but try not to get caught. Oh, high school. Unsurprisingly, that organization has a history of dealing with drug and alcohol abuse amongst its teenage members, and even of teen leaders embezzling money from the organization and running off with it. See? Teenagers have to learn how to be adult cops and adult politicians somewhere!

    As far as the explorers go… I have never been more glad that I basically flunked out of the Boy Scouts for being a weirdo gender-failure atheist.

  12. If they’re raiding a marijuana field, shouldn’t the hostiles be dressed like Canadians?

    (Asking as a Canadian)

  13. I was in the scouts as a kid. All of the leaders were Vietnam vets, and they all were ‘survivalists’. They trained us to fight and survive in the war and the situations they had found themselves in as young men. Yeah, yeah there was all of the ‘community service’ and ‘love of country’ stuff too – but it was really all about being a survivor.

    I think this article is very informative – it shows us what the new generation of ‘survivalists’ are thinking about – what their fears and paranoia’s are.

    Just like the ‘survivalists’ Vietnam vets – who were teaching kids to fight and survive a war that they had experienced, the new ‘survivalists’ are teaching the kids to fight and survive the war that they see as important – it wouldn’t surprise me if many of the leaders are vets of the current wars in the Iraq and Afghanistan, or if they are involved in some way in border patrol or local law enforcement where the main focus is on illegal immigration.

    The question now is – what to do? I don’t think just saying these people are crazy helps. There are millions of Americans who are veterans of the two current wars, and who have been involved in border patrol and near border law enforcement. Those millions probably include hundreds of thousands of ‘survivalists’ that are now part of our society, and will be for some time. And, I’m not being a general vet-basher here. I think only some vets, and some people involved in border patrol and law enforcement have this specific ‘survivalists’ outlook on life.

    I don’t necessarily think all of the ‘survivalists’ will be so paranoid forever, I’m sure some will slowly change their minds, but I fear that most of them have had experiences that will shape them for the rest of their lives. And, I fear that they will be absolutely passionate for years to come in trying to teach kids the lessons that they think are important.

    Probably the only thing we can do is to work hard to teach the same kids something different, but I suspect it will be hard to match the energy and persistence of the ‘survivalists’.

    In my own experience I just sort of grew out of what I was taught in scouts. For example, I met lots of friendly Vietnamese people – they weren’t my enemy and I didn’t feel threatened by them, or that I should keep a watchful eye on them. They were perfectly normal, everyday people just like anyone else. I suspect a lot of these kids are smart, and will grow out of what they have learned in this program.

    Unfortunately, many of the kids who were my peers who did not seem to be able to grow out of the paranoid ‘survivalists’ thinking they learned had a lot of problems later in life – drugs and alcohol. This is not me trying to insult them, rather I just think that the world view they could not let go of was so anachronistic and out of synch with the reality around them that they really became socially dis-functional.

    It was, and is a shame, but I don’t see how to avoid this fate for some of the kids described in the article unless we are willing to be just as passionate as the ‘survivalists’ in teaching them something else. Young kids trust adults to tell them what is important and true in life – and some of these kids will pay a heavy price in the future for having that trust in these ‘survivalists’.

  14. Back when I was in the Boy Scouts (as an Eagle Scout no less) I always pictured the Explorers as being Scouting’s version of JROTC-a way for impressionable teenagers to be all macho and wear fancy uniforms.

    So, any bets as to how long it’ll take for one of these kids to actually go along on an actual mission/raid/whatever, and get killed or seriously injured doing something that no 16 year old should be doing?

    I always thought it was fucked up that you can join the military when you are 17 with your parent’s consent. Now, I have a new standard for fuckedupness.

  15. Sick. Does it still count as a Godwin to point out certain parallels even if they’re really really obvious already?

  16. Wow. I did Explorers as a teenager, but I was in the medical one — basically, once a week, we’d go to a local hospital, listen to a doctor or nurse tell us about his or her specialty, and then maybe tour an operating room or get to watch how an MRI is done or something like that. For most things, we were only allowed to watch, not participate, because we were kids. I knew that there was a law enforcement one, but I just assumed it was something similar — tour a police station, learn how the 911 system works, and so on. This is utterly ridiculous.

  17. I suppose if they are intending to create more racial-profiling law-enforcers with entitlement mentalities… Well, they’re on the right track. Coz I’m gonna go ahead and guess that like regular boy scouts (and girl scouts for that matter), generally most of the kids in this Explorers program are white and Christian. Which is also what most of our police force is, I believe.

    Also, I would like to point out – if no one already has – that this is a little creepy-close to the child-soldier thing (seen in some African countries and other war-troubled nations) that everyone is so disturbed by. I mean, they aren’t sending them into battle, but it’s eerily close.

  18. When my son was young, I realized how messed up the boy scouts had become. When my brothers were scouts, it didn’t seem that way at all – was about camping and being responsible in nature and all that. But my son flunked out of cub scouts early because they were so religious. Surprised me, I was a girl scout and religion wasn’t even mentioned that I remembered, nor was it for my daughter in girl scouts. What is it about boy scouting that makes it right wing religious like this?

    Training child soldiers??? This is just wrong.

  19. Ok, I have thought this for a while but this proves that the Boy Scouts of America are an embarrassment to world Scouting. Seriously, how did they reach this point?

  20. Reading this, I am automatically reminded of George Orwell’s 1984, where the children are truly dangerous, they’ve grown up with the Party and love everything about it. They become snitches on their parents, their friends, their neighbors.

    I am drawing many parellels here.

    Also.
    WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?!?!?!

  21. Surprised me, I was a girl scout and religion wasn’t even mentioned that I remembered, nor was it for my daughter in girl scouts. What is it about boy scouting that makes it right wing religious like this?

    I’m not totally sure how it happened. Boy Scouts require scouts to profess a belief in some higher power — it doesn’t matter which one, but no atheists allowed. The Girl Scout pledge starts with, “On my honor, I will try to serve God and my country,…” but girls are allowed to substitute in another word instead of “God” if they want to.

    The only time I encountered religious issues in Girl Scouts (aside from the usual stuff of having to explain Jewish holidays and customs to the Catholic mothers who were our troop leaders, but that happened in pretty much ever extracurricular activity), was when we went to Girl Scout Camp. We’d go for a long weekend, sleep in tents, and eat in a dining hall. There were usually several different troops there at once. Before each meal, a few girls from one troop would say a blessing. It was supposed to be “non-denominational,” but, while none of the blessings offered explicitly mentioned Jesus, they were all obviously Christian in phrasing and intent. When it was our troop’s turn, several other Jewish girls and I offered to do the blessing, and suggested one that was similarly obviously Jewish, but didn’t actually directly contradict anyone else’s religion, and we were told that it was “too Jewish.” So, some of the Christian girls gave the usual “Bless, oh Lord, these, thy gifts which we are about to receive…” blessing.

  22. Having gone through a positive experience in Boy Scouts, I’ve tended to disassociate it from official BSA conservative policy as well as individual examples where a troop or program is run with a negative agenda, doubly so since I considered myself more an expat than an American. The Explorer program always seemed like a good concept, one my sister and I wished was active in our area so that she’d have a better option than the Girl Scouts, which were pretty pathetic in our town.

    Of course, the law enforcement path would have been working with the California Highway Patrol, doing public service and learning about the positive role of a peace officer in society, not some lunatic Sheriff’s department. Terrorism? Immigration border patrol? WTF is my reaction also. Adults teaching intolerance to kids is an unpleasant reality in too many places today, but violent training scenarios fit more into a militia camp setting.

    Still, I don’t think Boy Scouts of America is an embarrassment to world scouting, but rather that America is it’s own embarrassment to the world, through many different conduits.

  23. Not to Godwin the thread, but all i can think of right now is: Nazi Youth Movement.

  24. Morningstar, Hitler Jugend was exactly what I was thinking when I first read this story. Both involve/d hyper-patriotic para-military training for young people.

    Scares the hell out of me. I’m a Canuck, and well, lebensraum and all.

  25. This is really much ado about nothing. There are “junior deputy” programs with police departments all over the country where teenagers can get some basic law enforcement training and do stuff like this. It’s no different than a junior program for any other profession, of which there are many.

    OMG Hitler Youth!!! Hilarious.

  26. Henry, I made the same point.

    Except I disagree that it’s no big deal. The big deal is that our law enforcement agencies are full of insane, racist assholes with a penchant for sexual abuse and violent exercise of authority. And you know, some token good cops too. So when you combine that with “career day,” what do you get? Training kids to grow up and abuse power in a dozen completely disgusting ways. Welcome to America. If anyone thinks that’s all OK or excusable in the name of the thin blue line, I hope they get shot by a poorly trained rookie freaking out in a high-stress situation.

  27. This is really much ado about nothing. There are “junior deputy” programs with police departments all over the country where teenagers can get some basic law enforcement training and do stuff like this. It’s no different than a junior program for any other profession, of which there are many.

    Really? You can’t think of *any* other professions where this kind of “junior program” might be inappropriate? You think that anything that an adult may end up doing for a living is fair game to teach to children? (And that’s even pretending that this *isn’t* an insanely creepy and racist incarnation of a profession.)

  28. Wow. 10 years ago, Explorers for us was an excuse to combine GirlScout and BoyScout troops to go on bigger, better, and more serious rafting/camping trips. I didn’t *notice* any survivalism going on beyond regular camping. Which, honestly, is a work skill since I do outdoor field work (and have needed to dig latrines for it 😉 ).

    This makes me really sad that all these kids could have a great experience but are instead sheep.

    This is just one narrative, it seems. Perhaps not all are *this* crazy?

  29. The point I’ll emphasise is that it’s not necessarily OK or excusable in the name of the thin blue line, but rather the culture of the region, which exists with or without the law enforcement programs. Children are culturally trained to be sexist and bigoted before they’re even old enough for programs like Explorer Scouts. That’s not to say this example isn’t highly inappropriate, because law enforcement clearly has the higher standard to live by. Welcome to America, indeed. The only consolation is that there are many regions that don’t suffer from this level of abuse.

  30. If they want to train kids to stop terrorists and school shooters*, they’ve got the profiling all wrong. I can think of more cases of terrorism in the continental US that were perpetrated by white, Christian, American men. And many feminist blogs have noted that many of the high-profile school shootings (ie, the ones that happen at middle-to-upper income schools) were committed by men who targeted their violence at women.

    * Call me a cynic, but I suspect they really only mean middle-to-upper income schools.

  31. It’s no different than a junior program for any other profession, of which there are many.

    “Put him on his face and put a knee in his back,” a Border Patrol agent explained. “I guarantee that he’ll shut up.”

    I think, if you exert yourself, you may be able to find some minor differences.

  32. I used to get on my police department about using an Explorers program affiliated with the BSA. But they swore they weren’t about homophobia and all that. But I find the membership predominantly White (though more Latinos are joining) and male, kind of like policing itself.

    But one thing they don’t talk about is the disturbing sexual abuse of female (and in some cases male) explorers that takes place like this one and this one and this one.

    There was a story about a police officer in a city near mine who was called into I.A. and started talking to them about having sex with an explorer on a ride-along. The I.A. people interrupted him and said, “no, this was about your onduty vehicle crash” but he’ still employed by his agency.

  33. Unless you’re a Navy SEAL sniper, “taking out” terrorists really shouldn’t be something you try to do. You’ll kill other people, probably yourself, and just piss the terrorist off.

    I don’t think the goal of this program is really to train teenagers in “taking out terrorists”. It’s really more of a thought experiment designed to cement in kids’ minds the idea that there is an Us and a Them, and it’s important to know which side you’re on. And that side should be the “Us” side, duh. Because the “Them” side is composed of bloodthirsty criminal monsters fit for nothing but a boot to the head.

    It’s like a Red Dawn RPG, really.

  34. I was a girl scout and religion wasn’t even mentioned that I remembered, nor was it for my daughter in girl scouts.

    This could be my Bible Belt upbringing talking, but one of my first discoveries that not everybody believes in God was the fact that the Girl Scout’s Handbook had an alternate version of the Girl Scout Pledge that omitted the line “…to serve God…” . And it was right in there, pretty much “Note: you don’t have to say the God part if you don’t wanna, and that’s OK.”

    Personally, I quit girl scouts because it was all selling cookies. If the Boy Scouts is training men up to be police state law enforcement, the Girl Scouts is training women up to be cutthroat entrepreneurs.

  35. The quote in the article that told me that the Explorer program spokecritter was FOS was the declaration that there had been *no* complaints about content.

    I damnwell absofuckinglutly *know* that some parents will complain about *ANYTHING*.

    For these people to claim no complaints?

    Right.

    And, yes, the parallels that came to mind for me were not 1984 but the Hitler Youth and the Komsomol (of course, Orwell would have been familiar with the existence of both organizations….)

  36. It should be noted, by the way, that the American scouting movement (and I think the British, too?) developed pretty much arm in arm with their Sooper Ebul Nazi/Soviet counterparts. Not to make either the HJ’s or Komsomol out to be the good guys, but I’m sure that people on the opposite side of things were told all sorts of horror stories about how The Capitalists Indoctrinate Their Children, citing at the very least the girl scout cookie phenomenon.

    The ‘bad’ part about those groups was the fact that they were mandatory (in the case of the Hitler Youth) or compulsory if you wanted to achieve certain levels of status as an adult (Komsomol). The nice thing about scouting in the US is that your parents can opt you out of it, no harm no foul. Not participating isn’t going to red flag your family as potential gulag labor.

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