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Women’s Right to Vote, the Beginning of the End for America?

This is simply amazing. In a highly emotional and grammatically-challenged screed, the author argues that the lady-vote ruined America by turning us into a country of emotion-driven sissies. He writes:

The result of the 19th amendment has been the ascension to power by the same kind of Marxists Ronald Reagen defeated from the Soviet Union. The weapon of destruction was not a nuclear warhead though, it was an emotional outburst that melted the brains of logic.

Almost all important issues today come down to an argument between an emotional feeling and a logical thought. When you raise a child it is logical to slap their hands or spank their behind when they do bad things. It is the interference of emotional feelings that allows laws to be passed that condemn that kind of love as child abuse.

I think the fundamental problem is that we may be dealing with different defintions of “logic” and “emotion.” Getting mad about something and responding by hitting the person who caused your anger is not, according to my defintion of “logic,” a reason-driven response; instead, it seems to be anger-driven, and last I checked, anger is one of those emotion-type things. As far as I can tell, when the author says “logical” he actually means “Whatever I believe to be right.”

It wasn’t long before the politicians started passing laws that made the more emotional voter satisfied. Just a cursory look at many of the feel good laws that have been passed by the federal, state, and local governments since 1920 is enough evidence to make my point. Just in California alone, over 200 new laws get passed every year by politicians who think more with their hearts then with their brains.

Why else would California have a law on the books that requires all persons under 18 years of age to wear a helmet while operating a non motorized scooter or skateboard. Or while wearing in-line or roller skates, or while riding upon a non motorized scooter or skateboard as a passenger? Then there are the Federal laws that restrict the use of children under 18 from doing any of a number of non dangerous tasks for an employer. Laws which only limits the employers desire to even hire minors. These are just two examples of laws that only an overprotective mother would support.

I realize that these laws have been passed by mostly men, but the only reason these men got elected was because they played upon the fears of women and castrated men during the election campaign. A couple of years ago I read a story that said there is over 100,000 federal, state, and local laws on the books that regulate or restrict some sort of normal human behavior. If you read all these laws you would see one common denominator, emotion. These laws play to an emotional tugging of the heartstrings.

Right, like all those laws passed more than a century ago outlawing certain types of consensual sexual activity. Clearly those were all penned by women, or supported by female voters, right?

It is this very emotional kind of feelings that is getting Americans to go along with Global Warming? Think about it? Who isn’t moved by the picture of the cute little white furry polar bear who is stranded upon a floating ice berg? The fact that polar bears can swim and average of 100 miles without even tiring matters not a bit, because logic does not play a role in the dbate. These days, a politician cannot raise taxes to save the planet from the evil humans without using emotion.

Yes, because the global warming debate is really about how far polar bears can or cannot swim. Logic at its finest!

Read the whole thing — it’s hilarious. And of course the Freepers are on board, and in agreement. They take it a step further and suggest that only property owners should be allowed to vote.


49 thoughts on Women’s Right to Vote, the Beginning of the End for America?

  1. Writings like this provide proof that we need more people writing on masculinity studies and constructions of maleness in America and working to undermine traditional male stereotypes. The male = logic and woman = emotion dichotomy ultimately ends up harming both. I’d be willing to bet that this guy is a total trainwreck in any kind of human relationship, just based on what he assumes is “right” and “logical.”

  2. …did he really just describe the largest land-based carnivore currently roaming the earth as “little”? Is it possible he’s posting from an alternate dimension where up is down, black is white, polar bears are bitty, and facepunches are considered logical, well-reasoned discourse?

  3. I virulently disagree, but I can at least sorta-comprehend the argument that corporal punishment against children is necessary.

    This, though, strikes me as completely bizarre:

    Why else would California have a law on the books that requires all persons under 18 years of age to wear a helmet while operating a non motorized scooter or skateboard. Or while wearing in-line or roller skates, or while riding upon a non motorized scooter or skateboard as a passenger?

    Only a feminized ninny could support laws that require minors to take precautions analogous to wearing a seatbelt.

    Then there are the Federal laws that restrict the use of children under 18 from doing any of a number of non dangerous tasks for an employer.

    What are those tasks specifically? I worked for a grocery store as a minor. While I didn’t do anything dangerous, I could have easily gotten myself hurt on broken glass or heavy machinery (in the store room). What non-dangerous tasks are the eeeeeevil government preventing industrious minors from performing?

    You have to go back to Ronald Reagen’s victories in 1980 and ’84” to find the last time the candidate running on a campaign of logic won the Presidency. He presented America with the truth about where we were headed and he never shied away from the logical unemotional facts.

    You know what’s completely rational, and not at all reliant on emotion? Referring to a country as a city on a hill and using that metaphor as an extended appeal to freedom. Pure logic. Honest.

  4. Since when did voodoo economics count as logic? The rich did not become rich by raining it down on the rest of us. And this asshat wants children to get brain injuries or slice off their fingers at the deli counter? That would make us a better country how, exactly?

  5. Yeah, that Ronald Reagan “morning in America” ad with the little girl and the daisy and the mushroom cloud wasn’t an emotional appeal in the least.

    And I think writing like this proves that we need to start harnessing the energy of polar bears as a renewable energy source.

  6. I think the hilarious thing about the polar bears is that, well, even follow it to a semi-logical end… they can swim to… where, exactly?

  7. Awww. It’s sort of cute that he thinks he’s logical! And that everyone who disagrees with him is irrational and emotion driven; they must be, by definition, because he’s logical and therefore right. I am actually finding it adorable.

    However I suspect if I knew him, I would want to punch him really hard in the face. It’s the way any logical person would respond to his personality.

  8. That guys makes me wish I didn’t vote just so I could begin voting just to spite him. Oh well, I did help NC go blue and that’s probably a better punishment.

  9. Oh, and Lance, I know there are some age restrictions on who can use a meat slicer because a friend in high school cut the tip of his finger off while working at Jersey Mike’s and there was some murmur about if his parents would sue because it was illegal for him to be slicing meat at his age. Obviously not all employers pay heed to these laws though, probably because they are logical men who know better than to follow sissy lady laws.

  10. The funny thing is that a lot of the legislation he is complaining is backed up by huge amounts of data.

    Corporal punishment is obviously very controversial, but the arguments in favor of it are things like: “It says so in the Bible,” “It didn’t do me any harm,” and “It gets immediate compliance.” But opponents of corporal punishment cite the permanent effects of trauma on children’s brain chemistry, the distinction between immediate compliance and long-term moral development, and the difficulty of drawing a line legally between child abuse and lawful corporal punishment ( a difficulty which makes it all the more difficult to protect children from physical danger in the home). I am certainly biased, but I dont think it is the anti-corporal punishment lobby that is lacking in “logic.” (I also question whether there is even a gender divide on this issue?)

    As for helmets, well, hell. The data establishes that falls from bicycles and skate boards can result in permanent brain injury and that helmets reduce permanent brain injury. I fail to see the lack of logic in requiring steps to reduce brain injuries in minors. You can argue that such laws are overly intrusive but I don’t think you can say they are illogical.

  11. ElleDee– Right, that’s a dangerous task and there’s laws against minors performing them. That I agree with and understand. What I think is nonsense is the author’s contention that there’s *non-dangerous* tasks that minors are prohibited from doing. I guess it depends, to some extent, on your definition of dangerous, but surely operating a machine that can slice your finger off qualifies.

  12. And again, even if one agrees with my anti-corporal punishment stance, it is hardly “illogical.”

  13. This eerily reminds me of how Bush said “I know her heart” when he attempted to nominate Miers to the SCOTUS, so if anyone governed through emotion it was Bush.

  14. Lance and Elle, I suspect that the author is talking about child labor laws — legal regulations about the number of hours a minor can work per week, or laws saying that you have to be a certain age before you can be hired. It’s apparently nanny-state BS to say that 9-year-olds shouldn’t be working 40 hours per week sewing Nike shoes.

    I could be wrong, but that’s my best guess.

  15. um….forcing kids to wear helmets because if they fall (which is a real possibility) it can protect them from cracking open their skulls, seems pretty full of logic to me…

  16. I’m always bothered when people construct a false dichotomy between emotion and logic. The two aren’t inherently at odds with each other (though they are sometimes, of course). They’re not opposites, they’re separate processes that can work at odds or in tandem with each other in different situations.

    And, of course, as many have pointed out, this dude really, really needs to re-examine his definitions of “emotion” and “logic.” Hitting people isn’t caused by a logical process, it’s caused by an emotional one. Laws that prevent hitting children come from scientific research and actual logic.

  17. WTF is this blog? “Dumbasses-r-us?” I couldn’t find a description of the blog’s theme or its authors anywhere. Also, what is a “freeper.”

    This blog headline from Post Scripts cracked me up, though:

    “PETA – Where’s Our Millions Being Spent?”

    I dunno….where isour millions being spent? 😀

  18. That should have said:

    I dunno…where is our millions being spent?

    I’m a horrible typist!

  19. Women were allowed to vote BEFORE the 19th amendment was passed, and many did. That just made it a federal law.

    Most of the states with women voters were not what we think of as blue (or bleeding-heart, if you must) states. The original states with women voters usually were settlers in the West and the Plains, states that are nowadays often red. They had small populations and wanted to boost their power with women voters, and often the amount of work settler women put into their homes was respected as them doing the work of a man, and thus, having “earned” the right to vote.

  20. Women getting the vote caused WWII and the Holocaust.

    “Non-property owners” shouldn’t have gotten the vote either, and also fucked everything up for the rest of us = Negroes. No dog whistle at all there.

    This is what this entire article and subsequent comments all boil down to in their twisted, racist, misogynist thinking.

  21. Women getting the vote caused WWII and the Holocaust.

    I know this was a joke, but didn’t Hitler and the Nazis take away women’s right to vote because women tended to vote for the Communists rather than the Nazis? So in a very simplistic way, women not voting caused the Holocaust?

  22. Isn’t it both a pisser and completely telling that the jackoff who wrote that spells his hero’s name wrong not once, nor twice, but three fucking times?

  23. Oh good lord…..seriously?

    Who would reasonably dedicate such a large chunk of their time towards such a poisoned, flawed blog post?

    And what’s with the husbands validating their points by being like, “Oh my wife has been saying this for years?”

    I really do think I have a headache from this. Ignorant dolts.

  24. No, it’s not a joke. He actually claims this in his article, if you can stomach reading through the thing.

  25. Everyone has already said what I want to say, so I’ll be nitpicky and annoying and point out that the Daisy Girl ad was Johnson, ACG.

  26. The result of the 19th amendment has been the ascension to power by the same kind of Marxists

    They use the word Marxist a lot, but I don’t think they really understand it.

  27. I had to stop reading reading when I came to this:

    “And please do not bring up all the wars men have gotten us into. The biggest war in history was WWII, and it happened with men elected after women around the world won the right to vote.”

    I always thought the USA got involved in WWII to ‘save the free world’ (whatever that means). Guess I was wrong – itopping those Nazis was an emotional appeal to female voters!

    The stupidity… it hurts my head…

  28. They use the word Marxist a lot, but I don’t think they really understand it
    Maybe it’s simply due to the fact that I’m over tired, but… why am I reminded of that quote from The Princess Bride – “That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.”?

  29. how are helmets for kids illogical? wouldn’t it be logical to protect oneself from injury? and this is part of why it’s damaging to both men and women–wouldn’t fathers want that too? but no, no…mothers.
    my undergrad capstone is on “gender and emotion.” I’m going to bring this article to class. but then again I’d just as soon not give the article so much attention. “Men have always debated and discussed what it is they thought was best for their communities”?? Also, “there has always been strong women”? Please. This is garbage.

  30. As depressing as the article is, I laughed my ass off at “emotional feelings” and citing Ronald #$@&ing Reagan as a paragon of logic.

    To add my own two cents, I hear a lot of people complain about helmet laws and very few of them are cyclists, skaters, etc. I’m a cyclist and I know a lot of cyclists. At least a third of those I know have had their lives saved by their helmets at some point, and one has died because she wasn’t wearing a helmet.

  31. Actually, World War II was a direct result of the Treaty of Versailles ending WWI. I think that’s been fairly well established. Oh, and many parts of the world were just going a little nuts at the time — there was a huge rise of fascism in Europe at this time, people just apparently really needing to tell everyone else what to do, how to think…. Hmmm. This time around, it seems to be the religious Right that’s taking on that role.

    And has this guy ever READ 19th Century speeches? Good grief! There is a reason the Victorian era (everywhere) has been remembered as being sentimental.

    No, I didn’t read the article. The excerpt was all I could stomach.

  32. I think this guy is confusing logic with “meanness” and “selfishness” both of which are affectively motivated. I am a philosopher, so I study logic for a living, and I don’t see the logic there.

  33. Yeah, that Ronald Reagan “morning in America” ad with the little girl and the daisy and the mushroom cloud wasn’t an emotional appeal in the least.

    Yikes. Or, rather, the Ronald Reagan “morning in America” ad and the ad with the little girl and the mushroom cloud (20 years earlier) weren’t emotional. Proofread.

  34. Let me guess…..this was penned by a soon-to-be-middle-aged, insecure as hell white boy who’s probably been separated from wifey #2 for about a month. But……. *insecurity* is an emotion!! Maybe if someone would just re-assure him that his penis size is probably fine (please don’t jump ugly on me for that one, male insecurity usually DOES boil down to that measure of masculinity….SIGH)?

    I was also quite appalled at the number of female posters who ADVOCATE this fucktards’ “logic”. Insecurity all around, what do you think? 😉

  35. My concern about global warming is based on all the wrong reasons. I made a mistake and thought about why I wouldn’t want resources to deplete beyond our means, water levels to rise and make my city of residence a new Atlantis, and make the world a generally unhealthy place to live. I should have been thinking about the pwetty polar bears. Or maybe that’s what I have been doing all along…

  36. There are so very, very many things wrong with this diatribe, but one very minor thing, for some reason, really caught my eye:

    “Why else would California have a law on the books that requires all persons under 18 years of age to wear a helmet while operating a non motorized scooter or skateboard. Or while wearing in-line or roller skates, or while riding upon a non motorized scooter or skateboard as a passenger?”

    Now, my knowledge of skateboarding is barely serviceable at best, but…riding a skateboard as a passenger? wtf?

  37. 10G: please don’t jump ugly on me for that one, male insecurity usually DOES boil down to that measure of masculinity….SIGH

    Here you’ve got “it’s not a stereotype because it’s true” as well as “I know the rules so it’s okay when I break them.” Not cool.

  38. This man makes me lose my faith in America. I really hope his views are his own delusions, not shared by most men.

  39. “Women in Weimar Germany received emancipation in 1918.

    In 1932, it was German working and middle-class women who gave the Nazi’s a working plurality in parliment:

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/1878178

    And? Men have elected violent, evil dictators for much longer than this. Maybe they shouldn’t vote either?

  40. I just spewed coffee all over my keyboard. Anything this hilariously stupid should carry a warning.

  41. But you failed to quoe he best part:
    “The last election was a Marxist revolution, and it was able to happen because emotions trumped logic.”

  42. As sick as this is, and as wrong as the author is, there is one thing that he got right. The women’s rights movement did significantly change the political climate in the US. Women did advocate for children once they got more power. This did bring about really progressive useful child labor laws. However, this is also brought about the idea of adolescence in the late 1800’s.
    adolescence as a life stage did not exist until this time period instead children went straight from childhood to adulthood without an interruptions. Adolescence and the desire to protect our children later and later than life was in part brought about by women speaking out on behalf of their families and trying to get great control over their older offspring. (for example there were curfew laws established during this time period for young people.

    These days we believe that adolescence is completely natural and indispensible, but it actually isn’t! It has become a violation of the rights of people who should technically be fully grown adults. Even Newt Gingrich agrees, (this is one thing liberal youth advocates and gingrich and agree on) Adolescence is a failed experiment. If you want more information on this you can read a book called “The Case Against Adolescence”.

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