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  1. I’m pushing a law called “The Anti- Redneck/Fundamentalist Christian/Gay-Hating Republican” Law. What does that say about me?

  2. Heh.

    Here in Oregon…our state passed an anti gay marriage Constitutional amendment (which the state will find incredibly shameful in 20 years). Those in support of the amendment said it wasn’t about denying equal rights to homosexuals..it was about labeling their legal unions “marriage”.

    Our governor is now shepherding a bill through the legislature to allow civil unions for gay and lesbian couples in Oregon. The anti gay marriage constitutional people are up in arms. They’ve changed their tune…saying that the people have spoken and that they want no marital style rights for homosexuals at all.

    It’s about hating homosexuals. Plain and simple.

  3. But, of course, the Christian activists aren’t vague in their opposition. For them, the issue isn’t one of civil rights, because the term implies something inherent in the individual — being black, say, or a woman — and they deny that homosexuality is inherent.

    I am amazed that this argument got past the writer.

    Religion, you morons. RELIGION. FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Is Christianity the result of an outsize hypothalamus?

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  5. Religion, you morons. RELIGION. FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Is Christianity the result of an outsize hypothalamus?

    Too bad Christianity is a proslytizing religion that views other religions as perversions, and the “unchurched” as misguided and candidates for conversion. Freedom of religion really means ‘Freedom to practice MY variant of Christianity’. Tolerance only lasts until you cross one of their ‘morals’ and then, well, you’ve been led astray and need to be “helped” aka converted.

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    Why is it necessary for liberals to smear conservatives as racist when it isn’t true? Is it because they can’t handle conservative arguments on their merits?

  8. Please, Joseph, do tell us what the merits are of the conservative arguments against same-sex marriage. I’m dying to know.

  9. Joseph:

    Liberals believe in equal protection under the law for all people despite their differences. Conservatives, especially of the far Right, believe in exclusion, i.e. you don’t get this protection because you’re x (black, gay, female, non-Christian, you know the list…). Arguments that exclude citizens from participating fully in society are bigoted.

    And, by the way, it’s Liberals who attempt to rationally engage every stupid argument AS IF it had merits and the person holding the dopey belief wasn’t an irrational bigot. From now on, make it easier on those of us who would actually appreciate a coherent argument, even one that we disagree with…

    construct your conservative “arguments” using the following template: if a then b, if b then c. follow one point with something that follows from it. If you don’t do this , YOUR ARGUMENT HAS NO MERITS.

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