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The feminist naturist. A.k.a. the “naked grandmas” post!

This is one of those guest-posts I’ve been promising to write for many an age now. I hope you enjoy…?

I became a naturist in a totally feminist fashion – all due to a man.

When he told me that he believed that genuine nude beaches were the best, my initial reaction was, “Um, hell no. Wtf?!”

Roughly 24 hours later, I was standing on a nude beach, having been dragged there. I was really tired, due to the dragging and whatnot. We were camped out near a group of naked strangers, most of whom were middle-aged Ukrainian men. They were busy roasting something over an open fire. A couple of little boys, also naked, really wanted to be part of the roasting experience. “Alright, who farted?!” One of the naked men yelled. “If you little bastards are going to cook, you’ll need better manners!”

It was at that point I decided that I had absolutely nothing to lose in this situation. “Can you untie these?” I asked my guy, and offered him the strings at the back of my bikini top. He untied them for me, and then I slid out of my bikini bottoms as well, and walked into the sea, naked as a jaybird. After I was done floating and watching the seagulls and clouds and marveling at how much better my body felt without the bikini on, I sat on my towel and stared at the waves. People on their way through to a different beach, people who totally had their clothes on, kept glancing at me as they passed, but not in any way that made me feel uncomfortable.

“Hm, wow, this is kind of awesome, actually” I thought to myself at the time. And so I became a naturist.

I don’t own any sort of “swimming costume” whatsoever now (although I probably should). I’ve probably seen more naked dudes, and grandmas, and sullen naked teenagers than some people do in their lifetimes. A naked Russian guy, shaved head and huge tattoos, took a picture of me at an indoor pool late last autumn – I’m about 7 weeks pregnant in it, but you can’t tell, unless the slightly dazed look in my eyes gives me away. I’m saving that picture for when my future son is old enough to understand the significance of the moment.

My husband and I (the man who dragged me to the nude beach naturally became my husband) do plan on raising him to be cool with it all (but he won’t streak at any Duke basketball games, I hope – you can get expelled for that stuff nowadays).

Meanwhile, a lot of my friends from the States have had some questions about my embrace of naturism.

“But don’t you get worried about getting stared at? Treated like an object? Especially being feminist and all?” They ask me.

It’s a reasonable question, and it’s not as if naturists don’t gawk at each at all. It’s just usually not the sort of gawking that’s incredibly intrusive. Naked dudes have certainly been sleazy to me at naturist gatherings, and as for naked ladies, they hit on my husband all the time (must… take… as… compliment.. must… take… as… goddamn… compliment) – but when everyone is naked, it isn’t really that different than getting hit on, say, at a bus stop.

“But aren’t you freaked out about everyone seeing your body’s flaws?”

As a naturist, I actually freak out less about that stuff. It’s helped me cope with body issues – and it’s helped me accept the growing baby bump. As odd as it may sound, it was through revealing everything that I realized that people have nothing much to hide.

“BUT ISN’T IT KINDA GROSS?! I mean, naked old people!”

Once it’s all out there in the open, the phenomenon of aging is just…normal Bodies change shape over time. And people who’ve never seen the inside of a gym usually look different than people who have. Some people have smaller butts than you do. Others have butts that are bigger. You start taking it for granted very quickly.

But isn’t it unsexy when there is no mystery?

It’s all in the eye of the beholder, the way I see it (pun not intended).

For example, there’s a woman at my pool who, I think, looks stunning in the buff. While she’s wearing clothes, she looks alright, but I wouldn’t pick her out of a crowd.

Incidentally, controversial photographer Jock Sturges certainly has an interesting approach to both [NSWF!] beauty and mystery within a naturist context. He has reminded me that the naked body can certainly be mysterious. He’s also been accused of being a pedophile creep because there are naked young [NSFW!] girls in his photos, but I find nothing exploitative about his work. I think it’s honest, beautiful and kinda innocent. Maybe if I’d posed for him at age 14, I would have had less body image issues while in high school. Or maybe that’s the Decadent European in me talking. I suppose people can make up their own minds.

What’s the point of naturism, really?

I think it’s different for different people. I realized it allowed me to have a healthier approach to my body and to nature and to clothes. I LOVE clothes, but I can’t always afford what I like, and I’m also concerned with how clothes are made. It’s good to remember that I still have my skin – that clothes can become meaningless for a moment.

A lot of people join naturist communities as a way of encouraging healthy body image in their kids.

Some organize naturist meet-up as a means of meeting sexy naked ladies, or sexy naked gentlemen.

Some combine naturism and environmentalism, and would argue that the two are one and the same.

Etc.

But what if I also decide that naturism is cool, and then I’ll be attending some naturist thingie, and I bring my penis along to the occasion, and suddenly, I get a boner?

The world will not end.


64 thoughts on The feminist naturist. A.k.a. the “naked grandmas” post!

  1. But who would buy such a memoir though? I don’t want a niche market, I want mass market appeal! I need money for my frivilous hobbies and messed-up back, dammit! 😀

  2. Nudity has been incredibly healing for me in various times throughout my life.

    Like many people, I have intense body shame, and I have often avoided intimacy as well as various social opportunities because of it. I used to love swimming, but I will not swim anymore because I am deeply humiliated by the very thought of myself in a swimsuit. A lot of my daily life is consumed by thoughts of how awful my body is and how much I want to hide it. It’s everything – fat, hair, skin condition, fingernails, scabs and scars, weird shapes, you name it. If it’s part of my body, then I am ashamed of it.

    A few years ago, I got into modelling for life drawing classes, which meant standing for hours naked in front of anywhere from one to a dozen people. The stuff of nightmares, right?. But it was exhilarating, freeing, and incredibly relaxing. I have never ever felt as good about my body and myself as I did did during those years. (I’ve since had to stop for other reasons. Also, I never entirely got over the shame, but it did really help.) It was wonderful to finally just be myself, completely unclothed and unhidden, and have it be a total non-issue. I didn’t feel sexualized or examined or repulsive or weird or anything at all beyond who I was. I picked poses based on what I thought might be interesting to draw, and not what “flattered” me. Some of my most successful poses were ones that took advantage of my body’s unique traits – things that the artists would not have been able to get from another model. Body diversity wasn’t just accepted, it was actively desired – the artists got bored of drawing the same bodies and poses again and again.

    I’m not modelling anymore, but I’ve kept on with a form of personal nudity therapy. Not my own, but other people’s. I love nude artwork, especially photography. Tumblr been great for this – I’ve filled my dashboard with nudity of all kinds, most especially of non-normative, non-ideal-type bodies. Seeing beauty in every body helps me remember to find my own body beautiful. It helps me cut down on the baggage of what my body “ought” to look like.

  3. love it! i’ve always wanted to explore Being Nekkid in, erm, semi public places–I have a lot of problems with my body (I’m fat, which I feel like being upset about kind of ruins my feminist credentials, but nonetheless I am; I also have a LOT of scars of my body from years of self injury). How does one find such a place?

  4. I’ve never been to an actual nude beach, but I wonder if doing so would help my phobia of men due to childhood abuse. I suppose when it’s there and inescapable, you must learn how to cope. I would give anything to convince my mind that naked man (or any man, for that matter) usually does not equal impending sexual boundary violation and violation of trust.

  5. I’m in that camp of people who can freak out because of that kind of past trauma. I wouldn’t say that nude beaches are totally safe spaces (to what extent is any space safe? I wonder), but I’ve definitely found a lot of the time spent there helpful. There’s a certain shame factor that goes away, Ive found.

    And I’ve only ever been to nude beaches in Russia, Ukraine and Croatia, but I hear that Cali has a lot of them. True? False?

  6. Yes, California STILL has nude beaches. When I lived there years ago, I frequently went to a nude beach that was between Ventura and Santa Barbara. This was in the 70s, 80s, early 90s. I was nervous and self-conscious at first (What about my stretch marks? What about my sagging tits?), but I discovered that no one really paid much attention to anyone else. Many people, all shapes, sizes, ages, colors. We were all there because we loved the sun and the sea and that seemed to take care of it all. It was an entirely liberating experience that I enjoyed for many years.

  7. Oh dear. Whitman! I love him – but is me channeling him a bad thing, or a good thing?

    I asked that guy to take my picture, of course. For the future generations (which are currently trying to kick me in the ribs).

  8. Natalia Antonova: I asked that guy to take my picture, of course. For the future generations (which are currently trying to kick me in the ribs).

    Okay, cool! I was just unclear!

  9. I don’t know that I would go to a nude beach, but I would consider modeling for an art class like Jadey talked about.

    Definitely an interesting idea, thanks for writing!

  10. Vanessa, I’m sure there are at least some pools in D.C. that cater to the bare-assed crowd, no? In Moscow there are plenty that people just rent out certain days of the week.

  11. Nudity has been surprisingly helpful at boosting my body acceptance. It was a game of strip poker that made me realize that EVERYONE had hangups about their body, and if we were all naked, then people were far more worried about their own bodies than concerned about judging mine. When I finally dated someone at age 20 and he didn’t recoil in horror at my fat rolls that chipped away a bit more at my body hatred. A combo mix of bellydance and being addicted to the Adipositivity Project helped a whole bunch more. If the only mostly nude bodies we see are ones that are airbrushed and slender, then it’s so much easier to worry about perceived flaws in our own bodies. I found that seeing the awesome diversity of human bodies really helped to break down that perception.

  12. My hippie parents brought us to nude beaches when we were kids. I also did art modeling for a while in college. These experiences were very liberating for me. Unfortunately I learned the hard way that skinny-dipping at parties is not usually a comfortable situation for me…but then again I was probably just hanging out with the wrong people!

  13. While I haven’t been to nude beaches, opportunity just hasn’t presented itself nor have I sought it out, regardless of my fat self I actually found myself very comfortable with my body, rolls and all. Granted I have a fairly liberal group of men/women friends who most of us have naked hot tub’d together in a non-sexual way.

    It catches me off guard when my new girlfriends won’t even go to the Korean day spa where all you are wearing is a hair net and bracelet to keep your locker key while in the soaking pool areas. It’s just a bunch of women, skinny, old, fat, young, prego, etc and no one is looking.

  14. There’s a saying that no one is worth looking at until they’re fifty, because until then there really isn’t very much to see. At least it’s true for pine trees.

    Jadey: Also, I never entirely got over the shame, but it did really help.)

    How did you ever get over the cold?

    I love that whole story, Jadey.

  15. Jim: How did you ever get over the cold?

    😀 Space heaters. Space heaters are very, very important.

    Also, being fat didn’t hurt!

  16. omigosh I forgot–if you are in the DC area the closest thing we have is Spa World. There are clothes (well, orange pj uniforms…) in the unisex area, but the single sex areas, which involve assorted sorts of hot tubs, are all about the naked. It’s really, really nice.

  17. Natalia Antonova: And I’ve only ever been to nude beaches in Russia, Ukraine and Croatia, but I hear that Cali has a lot of them. True? False?

    Not sure about *a lot* of them, but they’re out there, officially or unofficially. I used to go to a fairly popular beach in San Diego that was *optional*. Also been to Japanese spas in Cali and New Mexico with nude hot baths (some coed, some women only), and I remember quite a bit of nudity on beaches in France too. It’s nice when people can just chill out and (ironically?) forget about their body.

  18. The campgrounds I visit every summer has a swimming hole that is clothing-optional, and it is *grand.*

    There are people of every shape and size.

    The first time I went, I was nervous for no other reason than that my friend’s mother was with us, and the prospect seeing my friend’s mom felt a little awkward, but only at first.

    My friends and I don’t swim in that area anymore–we go to a “private beach” behind a friend’s campsite–but the spirit is the same.

    It’s very freeing–and core temperature reducing!–to take a naked dunk in a deep, cold, spring-fed creek in Western PA when it’s 95F and humid.

  19. I loved this article thanks for sharing this. I think naturism is the great equaliser I mean once you are naked that’s all there is to you. No hiding behind expensive clothes or other trappings that we use as status symbols in the urban world we are simply our bodies and they are all beautiful no matter how old or what scars we may have. We are humans and there is beauty in just accepting others as we hope to be accepted in our natural form.

  20. vanessa:
    Natalia–hmm. I’ve never heard of one, but perhaps I will go and yelp it.

    MARNA in Baltimore rents a pool every winter. Capital Area Family Naturists may have some winter activities. There are also nudist clubs close by, e.g., Avalon and MAHESO. The closest nude beach would be Sandy Hook in New Jersey.

  21. I know this post is about swimming, but if anyone is a hiker, there’s an interesting section about naturism among German hikers in Rebecca Solnit’s Wanderlust.

  22. I have to say … group bathing certainly did kill those “naked in public” dreams. So if you have those “naked in public” dreams, I would definitely recommend getting naked in public.

    Legally, I mean. I don’t think getting arrested would help your subconscious much.

  23. I’m not a naked person…never have been, never will be. (See: Never-nude, ala Tobias Funke 🙂

    But I liked this piece and I totally support other people’s nakedness. That said, I think I love/appreciate my body w/o being someone who is comfortable hanging out naked around others…which seems weird to even myself to consider. I guess it’s like someone who loves to write poetry and they love their poems but they consider it a personal thing just for them and a select few others.

  24. Hmmm….maybe I oughta head out to Hippie Hollow, a clothing optional public park out here by Austin. I think it’s true that sometimes clothing can be a barrier to just relaxing and being a human being! I used to run in a lot of hippie-ish crowds and I always liked at least going topless. If shirtless is ok for guys it should be ok for us ladies too.

  25. In the USA, there is a Naturist Society; you can look it up (www.naturistsociety.com). It’s good that this was written about “naturism” rather than “nudism” because when naturists are at their best, they do exactly what people here have said–reject shame not just about having body parts that mustn’t be shown, but shame about how we’re fat, or saggy or hairy or any of the other things people fret about. Acceptance of one’s self and others is what’s most important. Liberating, it certainly is.

    One other thing that naturists say is that a lot of clothing, especially women’s clothing, is designed to perpetuate the idea of the body as physically desirable, with an erotic atmosphere generated by revealing and concealing at the same time. When we’re all naked that kind of foolishness gets left behind, and we’re all on the same level. Of course people have to behave themselves–it wasn’t so good to hear about people soliciting each other. But in principle, naturism is good feminism.

  26. So, I have a practical concern that I’m sure is easily alleviated. But what do you do to prevent sunburn on more delicate body parts? I’ve been to nude beaches at night, but out of concern for my nipples I’ve never tried one during the day.

  27. I burn *so* easily that I try to stay out of direct sunlight between 11 a.m. and 3 p.m. altogether, but when I’m not, I use sunscreen that’s made for the smallest kidlets. Doesn’t irritate the sensitive skin.

  28. It is great that places exist where the naturist lifestyle can be enjoyed. It is also great that women in particular are finding body acceptance through communal nudity. Whether a woman is fat, thin, big breasted, small breasted, and even droopy breasted I have never once seen or heard any negative comments. However, as a man with a small penis who happens to enjoy naturism I have experienced negative comments and barely concealed giggles.

    Feminism has made great strides in terms of female body acceptance but I think that us males have a ways to go in letting our own feelings be heard.

  29. Bog Beag–It sucks that this has been your experience. No one’s body should be shamed. However, being someone who is not into naturism, but is just curious, I wonder if women who have non “ideal” bodies actually DO hear negative comments too, and you’re just haven’t hear them, since you aren’t, well, them.

    If female naturists never hear bad tings about their bodies, that’s great, but naturists are a small segment of the society, so I am not ready to pat feminists on the back and say, “our work here is done. People accept women’s bodies, let’s focus on male body acceptance.” I think there’s a long way to go for both, still.

  30. I had a woman who’s a naturist once comment on my advancing pregnancy thusly,

    “If I was Natalia’s husband, I would be so nervous! I mean, she used to be model-thin!”

    So no, you don’t become magically enlightened when you become a naturist. Not necessarily. But if you don’t have the patience for other people’s stupidity, in any context, then you quickly realize that these comments say a lot more about that particular person’s state of mind than they do about you.

  31. I loved your post, Natalia! One of my favourite things about going up to my grandparents’ cottage in the summer is skinny dipping (I just love the feeling of the water on all my bits and the freedom of it) but I never thought about expanding it from there. Definitely something to think about…

    And, Jadey, your story was really amazing!

    Thank you both!

  32. Jadey, that was a great story, I really loved it. I took my first drawing class with live nude models last fall, and although I wasn’t the naked one, it was an incredible experience of looking at the human body without judgement. Too bad I suck at drawing, as it turns out! I was also a swimmer in college and always had a fantasy of ditching the speedo for a practice and seeing what it would feel like to swim fast naked. I bet it would be awesome.

  33. Feminism has made great strides in terms of female body acceptance but I think that us males have a ways to go in letting our own feelings be heard.

    Men have had their feelings heard for a long time. For instance, I’ve grown up hearing people say men with large penises are more desirable and that a man’s worth is in whether or not he can have lots of sex with women. That’s actually one of the loudest proclamations coming from men.

    Perhaps you better tell your fellow men that making judgements about penis size makes you embarrassed, and explain that talented lovemakers use more than just their dicks.

    Feminists and the strides we’ve made aren’t the problem here – we’re just a convenient scapegoat for your insecurities.

  34. Red Stapler:
    The campgrounds I visit every summer has a swimming hole that is clothing-optional, and it is *grand.*

    It’s very freeing–and core temperature reducing!–to take a naked dunk in a deep, cold, spring-fed creek in Western PA when it’s 95F and humid.

    Huh, another Pennsic-goer. Who’d have thought. 🙂

  35. Excellent article, excellent comments (The author’s, not all the others, necessarily). States the situation and ideas as well as anything I recall.

    Nonetheless, the designation “NSFW!” (whoever added it) for a couple of photos is condescending and presumptuous. The typical American notion that even a tiny bit of certain skin is “NSFW” for everyone and nothing else is is not only absurd but a contributor to the body phobia and malaise that the author so convincingly argues against.

  36. Paul Rapoport: Nonetheless, the designation “NSFW!” (whoever added it) for a couple of photos is condescending and presumptuous. The typical American notion that even a tiny bit of certain skin is “NSFW” for everyone and nothing else is is not only absurd but a contributor to the body phobia and malaise that the author so convincingly argues against.

    No, it’s respectful for people who could get fired if a coworker or boss or anyone in their workplace observes anything that *they* might consider pornographic on their computer screen. Or for people who are browsing in public spaces, like a library or internet cafe. Does it suck a little bit that people are going to interpret some pictures that way? Sure. But it’s not an insult for the author to be conscientious about their readers’ realities.

    Also, “typical American”? Really? Because I guarantee you plenty of non-USians use NSFW designations. Me, for one.

  37. Jadey: No, it’s respectful for people who could get fired if a coworker or boss or anyone in their workplace observes anything that *they* might consider pornographic on their computer screen. Or for people who are browsing in public spaces, like a library or internet cafe. Does it suck a little bit that people are going to interpret some pictures that way? Sure. But it’s not an insult for the author to be conscientious about their readers’ realities.

    Also, “typical American”? Really? Because I guarantee you plenty of non-USians use NSFW designations. Me, for one.

    “NSFW” started in the USA to continue the body phobia and negativity and is an unhappy cultural export. I stand by what I wrote. There are lots of photos thoretically “NSFW” that have nothing to do with nudity, if one assumes that one knows what everyone’s work is, which is ridiculous. And if you’re reading an article about naturism at work that doesn’t involve anything to do with it, then what’s up? Photos go with the territory.

    The American (and other) fixation on “skin” alone in the “NSFW” connection is wrong in both its uniqueness and its generality, and harmful. In this article it’s blatantly contradictory.

    You imply that all sites do this. They don’t and they shouldn’t.

  38. The fixation is stupid – but people do, in fact, get reprimanded and fired for this stuff. Some companies really do have policies that allow for that. I can’t change their bosses’ minds. I can only try make sure that they don’t get hassled should they click on a link at an exact moment that Jane the Nosy Co-Worker is peering over their shoulder.

  39. I love being naked! I started going to a co-operative hot tub in Milwaukee some years ago, and it totally changed my body image and the way I feel about nudity! 😀

  40. Alan:
    I loved this article thanks for sharing this. I think naturism is the great equaliser I mean once you are naked that’s all there is to you. No hiding behind expensive clothes or other trappings that we use as status symbols in the urban world we are simply our bodies and they are all beautiful no matter how old or what scars we may have. We are humans and there is beauty in just accepting others as we hope to be accepted in our natural form.

    lol – this is the argument one of my boyfriends used to convince me to go to a naturist resort. About 30 minutes into the experience, he was pouting, frowning and sulking at me, then declared we were going home (he was the one with the ride and it was out in the countryside). I asked him why. He said “those men are staring at you! They’re looking at my girlfriend!” Of course, he was hoping to run into prettier girls than me, all naked. Didn’t happen 🙂 That was my first experience; but surprisingly, not the last. It is, in fact, quite liberating to go swimming with no suit on. And to just not care what you look like. Being naked really does help.

  41. People who ignore points and call others names only expose their ignorance and lack of argument. Some will understand what I wrote. Happily, narrowness is not universal.

    Believing in the “NSFW” label is presumptuous and patronizing, and a laughably ineffective way to try to mind others people’s business.

  42. Oh, I get it now! If someone has a shitty supervisor who tries to get people fired for a couple of photos in a browser’s cache, they should just stop “believing” in that person, and everything will turn out just fine. Cool!

  43. A great article Natalia. You’ve put over the feminine point of view perfectly.
    As a female naturist writer I am often asked the same questions by the curious.
    Now I can refer them to this article.
    Many thanks, and keep up the good work!
    Liz Egger, Author The Nudist Lifestyle Guide

  44. You wrote that Jock Sturges has “been accused of being a pedophile creep” because of his photographs. Well, he actually had illegal sexual encounters with a 14 year old girl, one of his models, four decades ago. Does that make him a “creep”? Do you really want to use that word?

    http://artcontroversies.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/a-tale-of-two-americans/

    You may be right that “Maybe if I’d posed for him at age 14, I would have had less body image issues while in high school.” Those who’ve worked with another American photographer, Frank Cordelle, an associate of Paul Rapoport, have had exactly this kind of positive experience.

    http://artcontroversies.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/innocent-nudes-by-frank-cordelle/

    But there are still American state laws whose vagueness hinder most photographers from working with nude 14 year old models, and Sturges and his friends haven’t (to my knowledge) lifted a finger to lobby to fix those laws or to assist in the defense of 14+ year old girls accused of “sexting” innocent nude pictures of themselves. In Alabama it’s illegal to photograph “breast nudity” if a jury finds it “obscene”, which they probably will. Wisconsin law forbids the “lewd exhibition of” a minor’s “breast” whatever lewd is supposed to mean. Laws like these violate the U.S. Supreme Court’s holding that “nudity, without more” is protected speech.

  45. Sturges is considered a “creep” because of his photography – his conduct with Montgomery is another matter entirely. (I understand that as an adult, she had complicated feelings about what happened, and her viewpoint as an artist is to be respected – but the law is also very clear on the matter of statutory rape)

    But also don’t think that anyone is required to lobby for anything, you know what I mean? If you aren’t very politically-minded to begin with, you’re just going to cause a big mess if you get into the middle of a big obscenity debate. And why would anyone want someone like Sturges in that debate to begin with? I personally would not.

  46. Congratulation on expressing a constructive, whole body acceptance. This shows that you have a positive inner resolution that everyone should follow. Thank goodness for Hippie Hollow in Austin, Texas, Haulover Beach in Miami, Florida, naturist beaches worldwide, the FKK movement, and the countless backyard pools and hidden swimming holes where we all enjoy the waters in the best way – as a naturist. As Robert Heinlein wrote, we should all be true water brothers.

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